Logic

I'm willing to keep going, but I'm fine either way. 2nd round only. 3rd round seems unlikely to be done before actual draft.

Looking over various mock drafts and draft needs lists for the Packers, the unanimously agreed upon position of most pressing need after OL was Safety. Even though the Pakcers signed Adrian Amos and spent a high pick last season on Josh Jones, they still feel like they need to add a playmaker at the position. As such... With the 30th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the Green Bay Packers select Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida The Packers love Gardner-Johnson's versatility. They feel that he will fit perfectly into Mike Pettin's multiple defensive fronts, and will provide Green Bay with an excellent "Big Nickel" package going forward. My work computer is being funny, so can someone please tag the next guy whose turn it now is? Please and thanks.

I'm beginning to think you should check yourself into an institution of some sort.

About 20 minutes. Bored at work. I clicked on the thread title expecting it to be a poem, and there was none. I felt cheated!

Even in a simple, funny little thread about the excitement the night before the draft, you found it necessary to come in and -- in all caps, no less -- repeat yourself for the 87th time. We get it, dude, you want a defensive lineman, you don't want an offensive skill player, and you think that anyone who does is a fool. How many more ways can you find to repeat yourself before the Bills are on the clock?

Twas the night before the Draft, and all through the States football fans were pondering their favorite teams' fates. The prospects were pondered and each given grades, while fans wrote new mock drafts with really dumb trades. The pizzas were ordered, the beer was on ice, the effort put into making man caves look nice. When on the TV there came such a loud din, It was goofy-haired Kiper, yapping again. Just as the channel was about to be turned, here came McShay, to share what he'd learned. The flowers now blooming, the skies a dull gray, Gave color to a late April Christmas-like day. As fans sat and hoped and said football prayers, and pondered their favorite draftable players. "Now Quinnen, now Murray, now Cheevers, now White, now a corner named Greedy who covers them tight. On Jacobs, on Bush, on Simmons and Fant, On combine freak Metcalf, can he run a slant?!" As we all nestled down and tried hard to sleep, We were suddenly disturbed by a rather loud "peep". I peaked out on my roof and was shocked by the scene, A man dressed in red, Bills GM Brandon Beane! With curiosity getting the better of me, I asked Beane a question with curious glee: "Who will we take? Will we draft in the current order?" "Sorry", he said, "We'll be taking a corner!" My dreams freshly crushed, I slinked back off to bed, With visions of playoff droughts fresh in my head. But I prayed and I hoped and I tried not to worry, For Josh Allen's here now, we'll be good in a hurry! The draft will soon start, the future is bright, Happy Draft Eve to all, and to all a good night!

I know it. But even McKellar and Metzelaars were not truly dominant tight ends. I'm talking a Gronk/Gonzalez/Witten level player. I loved the 90s TEs, but they were not at that level.

Brown doesn't remind me of Austin. Austin's game was side-to-side quickness, agility, lateral movement. He has never been and still isn't a true wide receiver. More of a jet sweep motion guy and "offensive weapon" if you want to call him that. Brown, on the other hand, is a true wide receiver. He's somewhere between DeSean Jackson and Marquise Goodwin. His calling card is straight line speed. He will take the top off a defense. I'm not for drafting Brown because we have two of him already in John Brown and Robert Foster, but best of look to whoever drafts him in keeping him healthy.

I know I'm S.O.L. on this one, but... TJ Hockenson Why? Because the Bills have never, literally NEVER had a dominant tight end in their nearly 60 years of existence. It would just be nice.

lol isn't it 1:30am on the east coast? This thing is going to HAVE to start moving considerably faster tomorrow or else this won't get past the 2nd round.

TEs Dawson Knox and Foster Moreau. OT Bobby Evans OG Ben Powers

There's....a lot to unpack here.

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". - Mark Twain Look man, you've made your point of view perfectly clear. You think left tackle is an unimportant position and the Browns would've been better off drafting Marshawn Lynch or Lawrence freaking Timmons, because they sure didn't do much winning with First Ballot Hall of Famer Joe Thomas on the roster! We can agree to disagree, it's fine. You think that left tackle is not an "impact position". I vehemently disagree, and would venture to guess that 90% of the humans who watch and understand football would agree with me. It's fine. Let's move on.

Oh FFS. Fine. You win. Wide receiver and running back and tight end are clearly more important to team success than a quality left tackle. What was I thinking? ?

That argument is asinine. How many titles did Randy Moss win? How many titles did Barry Sanders win? How many titles did Tony Gonzalez win? If the argument is for an "impact player" instead of a lineman, which is how this conversation started, I'll ask again: What position other than QB or edge rusher has as big an impact on a football team?

This is the worst and most nonsensical argument ever. A Hall of Fame OT doesn't affect the franchise as much as other positions? Really? Other than QB and Edge, WHAT other positions affect a team's fortunes as much as LT?! I'll wait here.

That's fair. The way I look at it, Jonah Williams was the best offensive tackle in the SEC last year and one of the best in all of college football. That's got to count for something. He's playing against future NFL edge rushers and is operating a scheme at 'Bama that features a lot of stuff he'll be seeing on Sundays. And he DOMINATED. If the idea is that he can't be a tackle in the NFL just because his arms are 2 inches too short, and we're going to completely disregard his proven production at the college level, well...we'll see, I guess. I'm not sure I buy that Williams is strictly a guard in the NFL. I DO believe, however, that if he flames out at tackle, he'll still make an above average guard. I'm not saying Quenten Nelson level, but I'll think he'll be darn good inside if that's where he ends up. And offensive tackle is one of the only positions in the draft where if the guy you pick doesn't work out, he has a potential fall-back position that keeps the pick from being a waste. If DK Metcalf or Ed Oliver bust at WR or DT, respectively, for instance, there's no backup position for them.

1.) Offensive Tackle is either the second or third most important position in Football. QB is #1, obviously, but after that come Edge Rushers and Offensive Tackles. Your attempt to minimize the importance of a high quality left tackle is off base, in my opinion. 2.) We can play this game both ways. How many championships did dangerous offensive weapon and Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez win his team over the years? How many championships did the Lions win with Calvin Johnson or with Barry Sanders? You can't use the lack of team success during a great player's tenure as evidence that that player isn't worth having or seeking out in the draft. 3.) Do you really think the Browns would have won more games during those years if they had chosen Adrian Peterson over Joe Thomas? If you want an "impact player" at 9, it's hard to overstate the influence that a franchise left tackle can have on a quarterback's success and on an offense as a whole. It's also hard to overstate the importance of the left tackle position in general. If you told me I could have either Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson in their prime on the Bills for the next decade, I know who I'd pick 10 times out of 10.

Wow. I'm not sure where to even start with that , so I'll just say that I politely and completely disagree.

Who said anything about cutting Star? Star plays the 0-technique position. Wilkins would start alongside him at the 3-technique position. We are one quality defensive tackle short of a full rotation at this point, and McDermott loves his d-line rotation.

Did you just mention Joe Thomas in sentence one and then say "pass for an impact player" in sentence two? Joe Thomas is a surefire Hall of Famer. I think you just made the OPPOSITE of your point.

When I was trying to trade up, it WAS with Dillard in mind. As I thought about my choice at pick 20, though, I decided I think Risner's a better fit for the Packers any way. Here's why: The Packers' LT spot is pretty locked in with David Bakhtiari. He's one of the best in the game and is only 27 years old. Dillard's projected best spot in the NFL is at LT. Many question whether he has the toughness/power to play right tackle, and I'm inclined to agree. With this being the case, and with the potential that Risner could more suitably help at RT or RG or even C, I now feel he'd ultimately make more sense for Green Bay. You were right to take Dillard for the Vikings, though. They NEED a LT, which is what Dillard appears to be. I'd say both our teams wound up with good fits in the end.

That's okay, I feel a lot better when I look at some of the QUARTERBACKS they get to play in 2019! Sam Darnold (x2) Eli Manning Andy Dalton Marcus Mariota Ryan Fitzpatrick (x2) Case Keenum Joe Flacco Lamar Jackson Sweeeeeeeet!

Because the Chiefs are switching to a 4-3 this offseason.