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Absolutely not. Corner is a premium position. You don’t trade away 24-year-old All-Pros at premium positions. Tre is a model teammate, model citizen, and elite player. He should be a Bill for life.

Just now on Twitter. Oh dear.

His picking 1989 made sense to me because he personally was likely at his peak as a player and singer in that year. They always talked about the Dead being "the longest running musical argument in history", and by that point, they'd been arguing for a good, long time. They all knew each other as well as they ever would. I once heard the quote that the 60s Dead belonged to Pigpen, the 70s Dead belonged to Jerry, and the 80s Dead belonged to Weir. That made sense to me. Here's Weir's quote on the end of '89/beginning of '90 tours, courtesy of Rolling Stone: “For my money, this was our hottest era,” he says. “We couldn’t wait to go on tour; we couldn’t wait to play because it was really working for us and it was keeping us amused. We had been working together as a unit for a good length of time.”

I tried doing the "B team" thing with the Seahawks when I moved to the Pacific Northwest. Figured I might as well also root for the local team. Didn't feel right. Couldn't do it. I find it hard to root for other AFC teams unless the Bills are having an awful year and have no playoff prospects. I've always sort of, in the back of my mind, rooted for the Vikings (the Bills of the NFC. Four lost Super Bowls in one decade) and the Packers (how can you not like that fanbase?). The Broncos should theoretically have a dynamite offense, though. They're like a track squad.

It's really hard to pinpoint when the Dead were at their peak. Frankly, over the course of their 30 year career, they had several peaks (and several valleys). It's a testament to the variety and evolution of their music that if you ask ten Deadheads, you'll get ten different answers. What do you like most in Grateful Dead music? Tightly played songs? Exploratory jams? Psychedelic frenzy? For me, the reason it's tough to pick is because different elements of the band peaked at different times. In 1968-1969, the Dead, as a whole, were at a psychedelic/primal/intense high water mark of playing. Bob Weir and Phil Lesh, however, were nowhere near as good as they would become, and they didn't yet have the wide variety of songs they would offer later. In 1972, the band was in high spirits, everybody's playing was great, Keith Godchaux was playing the keys the best he ever would with the Dead (seriously, check out some Europe 72 stuff...Keith is absolutely off the charts great), the band could transition more quickly/tightly with just one drummer....BUT...they didn't quite "stretch out" and jam as much as they would in the years to come. 1977, another oft-listed peak year, features the two-headed drumming monster at full power, everyone playing well, the band stretching out and playing 20 minute renditions of songs with not a care in the world...but Keith's playing has SERIOUSLY fallen off as his heroin addiction has progressed. Jerry, also now in the midst of opiate use (though still playing very well overall) has seen some sloppiness and lack of focus seep in to his playing. 1989, the next most often mentioned peak, is indeed tight and and features many great shows. Brent is playing very well, the band is energized, Jerry is (relatively) healthy....but no one can ever convince me that their musical adventurousness and originality and overall musicianship is anywhere near what it was in the best year of the 70s. Just my opinion. Phil Lesh felt the band peaked pre-hiatus, which would be 1974. Bobby felt they peaked in 1989. Jerry said during the press tour for Europe '72 that they were at a sort of "peak optimum" at that moment. Me? Gun to my head, on this particular day, I'd say winter '73 through winter '74, those 12 months, were their peak. Ask me again next week and you're likely to get a different answer.

You clearly don't know what a Karen is.

In before someone quotes a pseudo-scientific conspiracy theory or posts a sheep GIF.

“Who needs compensatory picks when you can just sign every o-lineman on the market and flip them for draft picks?” - Brandon Beane, probably.

One of — if not THE — only 1st set opening Eyes of the World ever, and it’s a great one. Bruce Hornsby really elevated that tune in those years.

Forget the coaching part of it. Marv Levy is a great man. Period. In his honor, and in the words of his usual celebratory song: ”Hooray for Marv Hooray at last Hooray for Marv he’s a horse’s ass!”

If anyone's not already aware, this is going on every day/night through the 9th at the link below the picture. Multiple Dead-adjacent sets from all sorts of different musicians, as well as stories being told by people close to the Dead scene. I watched today, and there was some great bluegrass Dead covers by the Travelin' McCourys, among others. https://www.dazebetween.com/

With regard to the first bolded sentence: The MLB has shown us already that fast and widespread outbreaks are quite possible, which could indeed ravage a roster. With regard to the second bolded sentence: The NBA is in a quarantined bubble. It is therefore much more likely to succeed than what the NFL is planning to attempt.

Well sure, if the season goes all the way through a championship game, it's better that they win than not win. But if we're talking about the level of satisfaction derived from a Lombardi won during a COVID-affected season vs the satisfaction derived from a Lombardi won during a normal season, it's not even close, right? It certainly isn't for me.

Agreed. And for me personally, a championship won during a year without fans in the stands and with multiple squads decimated by infection from a deadly pandemic wouldn't be very satisfying. I know others disagree, but that's how I feel. Would people really be happy about the Bills winning their first ever Lombardi during a season in which a deadly pandemic ravages league rosters, street free agents face off with vanilla playbooks, and no fans are there to celebrate? To whom does that sound like a worthwhile endeavor?

What I'm curious about is this: Let's suppose the NFL marches full speed ahead with the season even in the event of multiple infection outbreaks. They've cynically indicated that there are plenty of football players without jobs who will be happy to step in if NFL regulars start dropping like flies. So let's assume that happens, the NFL says "damn the torpedoes!" and just keeps playing games, with an eye on playing a full season because, ya know, money. How good and worthwhile will the product be if, for example, a team missing a bunch of key players due to COVID plays a team ALSO missing a bunch of key players due to COVID. And that's ON TOP of whoever will be missing due to regular football-related injuries. As an example, let's say it's the Bills (already without starting NT Star Lotulelei due to opt out) minus Josh Allen, Mitch Morse, Quinton Spain, Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, Taron Johnson, and Josh Norman vs the Chiefs (already without a starting guard and running back due to opt out) minus Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Mecole Hardman, Sammy Watkins, Juan Thornhill, Chris Jones, and, hell, Andy Reid. Is that a game you even want to watch? Are the final records of teams who lose this many players (and possibly coaches) to infection even reflective of the quality of those teams to begin with? Would a championship won during such a season even really be worth much? It's either going to be a very short season, forced to shut down because of too many outbreaks, or if it IS a full season, it's going to be a very watered down level of play. Either way, it's not good.

Awesome! Glad you're enjoying it. I feel this show has a certain -- Je ne sais quoi. A certain intangible quality to it. I think the band was happy to be in Paris after a week in Germany, which had freaked them out good and proper after they found a basement full of Nazi relics at one of the venues they played there. When the band was happy, the music was good.

Funny you should ask. In listening through this Europe '72 tour, I realize that they debuted the song on this tour. First time played was 4/17/72 in Denmark. It wasn't fully formed yet. Was missing the bridge and the proper intro. They played it a few more times in the coming shows, and by 5/10 in Amsterdam, they have it locked in just right. This is the version that wound up on the "Europe '72" album. Later on in the Dead's career, the song became a much more somber, reflective, jammed out kind of thing. It really evolved. Refer to the version from 9-3-77 in Englishtown, New Jersey, off of Dick's Picks #15. Very mournful tone. Excellent end-of-song jamming.

Jerry Garcia was born on August 1st, 1942 and died on August 9, 1995. The eight days from August 1st through August 9th are thus called “the days between” by Deadheads and are a great excuse to listen to and immerse ourselves in all things Grateful Dead (as if we needed an excuse). So, fellow Deadheads, what are YOU listening to at the moment? Personally, I’ve been immersed in the Europe ‘72 tour. All 22 shows from this tour are available in their full length, crystal clear glory on Spotify. I’ve been listening to each one in chronological order for some weeks now. Up to 5/13 in Lille, France as we speak. Favorites so far are 4/14 in Denmark, 5/7 in Wigan, England, and 5/3 in Paris, France. Listening to an entire tour like this has given me a new respect and level of appreciation for the nuances of the music. I feel like I’m getting my doctorate in Dead-ology. Certainly this tour has an undeniable magic. It’s Pigpen’s last stand, Keith is at his all time best and most creative, Phil and Bobby have mastered their instruments, Billy (the only one to refrain from any cocaine use this tour) sounds amazing, and Jerry’s tone and skill is golden. The single drummer and dual keyboards provide a unique and all-too-brief musical atyle that they’d never quite replicate again. The whole band is just HAPPY this tour, and it comes through in the playing. The Other Ones and Dark Stars from this tour are marvelous. If you don’t have Spotify, head over to Archive.org and listen to a soundboard of Paris 5/3. You won’t regret it. I don’t know that the band was ever tighter than they were on this tour. Pure magic. So, weirdos: what are YOU listening to right meow?

I still have yet to see anyone in this thread use actual facts or data to dispute what @BullBuchanan has been saying. You can say “well it’s not worth the time or effort” all you want, but that’s a cop out. You may not like or agree with what he’s saying, but at least he has provided facts and evidence to support his position, unlike literally everyone else in this thread. Can anyone provide facts that dispute the wanton use of tear gas (banned by the Geneva conventions, but somehow allowed on American soil) on American citizens? Can anyone provide evidence that disputes the fact that police are incorrectly and dangerously using “less lethal” munitions by aiming them directly at people’s Skulls and chests? Can anyone dispute the notion that police and federal troops have been attacking journalists and medics? Can anyone provide evidence showing that heavily militarized federal police forces have NOT been unlawfully attacking and/or detaining US citizens who — in many instances — have not committed any crimes? I welcome any such facts or evidence, but I already know none will be provided, because these occurrences are established facts. If you’re perfectly okay with everything I’ve just mentioned, then that pretty much tells me all I need to know about where you stand on the issues of civil liberties, fascism, and police brutality.

As I've said over and over on this forum, I think the NFL gets through four weeks of games at most before having to suspend or cancel the season. As such, my four week Diggs projection: 15 receptions for 309 yards and 2 TDs.

Ugh. I don't remember you being so miserly last time around. I can't remember the last thread you posted that didn't have a veneer of anger, defensiveness, or cynicism.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1286715180106371072 This dancing lady with flowers really had it comin’. That there are “thousands of” protestors being coached and paid, with the purpose of affecting the election. Do do you actually believe that?

You don’t actually believe this, do you?

If you don’t see how using a secret police force to quash dissent and to physically attack press and medics — not to mention threatening to delay an election — are fascist tactics, I can’t help you. Go read a history book.

Thanks for chiming in. Tally Dwight into the “totally cool with fascism” column.