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Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. I was very patient with him because he was only 11 years old when we drafted him, but by year four I was ready to move on.

I believe I remember being irritated that they didn't draft an offensive player with the pick, but then watching and reading about Bernard and understanding why they picked him, and reminding myself that 3rd rounders realistically are not usually instant starters. There are relatively few people in that whole draft night thread who had nice things to say about the pick. And yeah, I've had plenty plenty plenty of bad draft takes over the years that I'll readily admit to. I was ready for the Bills to draft Troy Franklin at the top of round two this year. I thought Ryan Nassib in round 2 would've been a sound decision the year he came out. I thought Josh Allen was JP Losman 2.0. So...yeah. I'm an idiot. There's a reason I'm not employed by an NFL team. You were actually one of the more REASONABLE people in the draft night thread!

Some replies from draft night are below (names redacted, but there are some great posters amongst the quotes below. These are only from the first 10 pages of the 36 page thread). Key takeaways: Instant draft night takes are usually bad, most of us have no idea what we're talking about, and sometimes we SHOULD trust the scouts. Oh, and apparently Dylan Parham was a very popular choice for the Bills in 2022. "Midget." "Joe marino is not having it at all. HATES the pick lol" "Bernard I had as a 6th round guy. If this is the future replacement for Edmunds then yikes. Not too happy with this one to be honest." "Meh. Over draft. Yet he might be a ST/backup to Milano." "He’s a backup to Milano? Seems like a weird pick here. " "Ok I'm having a hard time getting pumped for this one" "I had Bernard earmarked for one of those 6th rounders." "6-1 LB? 😂 Is Beanie Boy stoned too?" "Levy/Jauron level draft." "I was happy with the draft until this Beane dropped this turd pick into the punch bowl. Parham should’ve been the pick and went one spot after us." "Parham should have been the pick. This guy could have been had with one of our 6th round picks or maybe even a UDFA. There's no highlight reel for him on youtube, and no one has him listed as a day 1 starter. A real reach in the 3rd round. A true WTF pick." "just an awful pick. could have traded down and got him. Tiny, oft injured, most project him as a pure ST player/backup. With other OL and WR on board this is off. "

I'd love to dig up the draft night thread about Terrel Bernard and see how absolutely wrong so many people were. I'm not immune to it. I nearly cried when they drafted Josh Allen. I'm just saying...the discrepancy of opinion between draft night and now would make for some humorous reading.

We're talking power rankings? Ok. Thanksgiving sides. Go! 5. Cranberry Sauce 4. Mac 'n' cheese 3. Mashed Potatoes 2. Sweet Potato Casserole 1. Stuffing

First: Sean McDermott should have won coach of the year in the Damar Hamlin/blizzard year. Keeping the team together through all of that and achieving a 13-3 record was an incredible achievement, regardless of how the playoffs turned out. As to the topic at hand: "Coach of the year", much like League MVP, has taken on a different meaning. These days, it more often than not tends to go to coaches who coached a previously bad team to a winning record. Guys who come in and resuscitate bad teams and make them good. Dan Quinn would fit the bill this year, as would Jim Harbaugh. I don't think that SHOULD be what the award equates to, but it is what it is. For the Bills to have the best point differential in the league since 2020 and to be as consistently good as they are, its downright criminal that McDermott has never won it. Alas, he is punished for his consistency.

I have no feelings one way or the other on the topic at hand. I just couldn't help but notice that it was kinda funny that the kicker topic was created by a guy named St Pete Gogolak.

Are you certain that this is correct? I didn't think the factor of whether the "extra" game was home or away in any given year played any part in determining whether a team plays an international game in said year.

Your username checks out.

Wanted to point out that, if I'm not mistaken, it's technically possible that one of our home games next year could be played overseas. Would suck giving up a home game while playing at that stadium for the final year, but it's possible it may happen.

I think that the idea of an NFL head coach knowingly holding stuff they think will work back from an opponent "just in case" they meet them in the playoffs, is nonsense. It's fallacy. I don't think it happens. There are too few games in an NFL season, and they're all too important to potential playoff seeding, and everyone works too hard (from coaches to players) to knowingly hold anything back that would help you win a regular season game. Now maybe when you play a divisional opponent two times within a few weeks, a team you see often, you hold a little bit back in the first meeting to use in the second meeting. But an opponent you only see once in a given year, and as early in the season as we played the Ravens, no less? Absolutely not. I just don't buy it. I don't think the Chiefs did it against the Bills. I don't think the Bills did it against the Ravens. In both cases, I think one team just outplayed and outcoached the other. It happens. It's the NFL. I don't buy into all the 4D Chess.

McDermott's comments about "being smart" when Milano returns and "staying in rhythm" leads me to believe that they won't rush him into the lineup, and that they value the continuity and flow they have on defense right now. As others have mentioned, it's a good problem to have. One of the silver linings and blessings when starters miss time due to injury is that sometimes it allows the depth behind them a chance to develop on the field and get much needed reps. That's been the case with Dorian Williams. Milano is a leader and a playmaker and has a big dead cap hit if cut this offseason, so I expect him to be a Bill in 2025. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

Outstanding. Thanks for this!

You're probably right. I'm an animal lover, so I certainly wouldn't hit just ANY horse. He'd have to really have it comin', ya know?

I disagree that usage and quarterback play are the factors primarily to blame for Samuel's lack of production so far this season -- at least not in a vacuum -- which is what this post makes it sound like. Between the way Samuel looked to the naked eye throughout much of the year and McDermott's post-game comments about Samuel needing to get his confidence back and remember that he's a good football player, I believe something more has been going on. My guess would be that Samuel's lingering turf toe hasn't allowed him to fully be himself, which has gotten into his head, and has also changed the way Brady uses him and the degree to which he is relied upon in this offense. While I agree that it will be incumbent upon the offensive coordinator to continue to find meaningful ways to get Samuel involved, and incumbent upon the quarterback to trust Samuel and to look for him in big moments, I ALSO think that both of those things will have a better chance of happening if whatever has ailed Samuel (be it physical, mental, or both) is behind him. So...yes I think it's coaching and quarterbacking, but I also don't think Samuel himself should be absolved of responsibility for his lack of production this year.

I have to admit that after the Bills had a good O-line last year, I was pretty irritated at Beane for trying to "fix what wasn't broke" by letting Mitch Morse go and moving McGovern to center. Lo and behold, that was the right decision. Our O-line is even BETTER this year, particularly in the run game, and I think moving from Morse (a finesse center) to McGovern (more of a classic mauler) is a big reason why. For not the first and certainly not the last time, Beane was right and I was wrong. Additionally: Aaron Kromer. Oh my GOSH that dude has made a difference! Sure, he's not to be trusted with beach chairs, but the man can coach the hell out of an offensive line!

Bail money to get me out of jail after I drunkenly punch a police horse during the Bills' Super Bowl parade.

Thanks for this. I'm not surprised to learn that he's a dynamite person. I'd sill rather see the pretty pop star than him if given the choice

As long as Gabe is what he always should've remained here -- a WR4/5 who is not counted on to be anything more than that -- then sure, I'd be fine with a reunion on a cheap deal. Honestly, half the miscommunications/INTs that happened between him and Josh were on option routes, which Brady seems to have mostly 86'd from the playbook. Not sure if there will be room for him on the roster with Shoeless Mack Hollins in town though.

Respectfully, as long as Patrick Mahomes it the quarterback and Andy Reid is the head coach, I don't expect the Chiefs to ever be "exposed" or to be anything other than championship contenders. The Chiefs -- who, mind you, are likely to have Hollywood Brown and Isiah Pacheco back in the playoffs -- were one 4th and 2 stop away from having a short field to drive for a game winning field goal attempt. I don't particularly think the Bills exposed anything yesterday. I think their all-world QB just made an all-world play, and had he not done so, the Bills might be 8-3 this morning.

I'm just curious what she has said or done at any point that makes you feel she is "entitled" or has a "schtick".

What you say is correct. To add to it: I can't ever remember the Bills bottling up Travis Kelce so effectively. People can say "well this isn't the Kelce of old", but he had 32 (!) receptions for 254 yards and 2 TDs over the three games preceding this one. Didn't let Hopkins affect the game, either. The front seven was the difference in this game for me. The D-line kept Mahomes hemmed in and made him uncomfortable, and the linebackers limited the middle-of-field stuff and shut down #87. Babich and Brady both looking like future head coaches at the moment.

We all heard the breathless training camp reports about how big a part of the offense Curtis Samuel looked like he was going to be. We all watched through the first 9 weeks as he was a total afterthought. Last week, and then even more so last night, Curtis Samuel made plays. Both his usage and his productivity vastly improved. He ran legitimate wide receiver routes and made legitimate plays in the passing game. So what's the deal? Did his turf toe injury just finally heal up? Did the OC just finally start using him more intelligently? Were the Bills just FORCED to use him because of injuries to other receivers? A combination of these things? Whatever the case may be, if this new and more productive and versatile Curtis Samuel is here to stay, it will mean great things going forward. Cooper, Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, Hollins could actually wind up being a very strong, versatile, and deep WR corps over the stretch run of the season into the playoffs. Here's hoping Samuel has "arrived" on this offense and this isn't just a short term mirage.

So, since I'm the one that started this thread (and, before that, wanted the Bills to draft Worthy): Worthy showed up as more than a gadget guy yesterday. Clearly. Had he kept his toe inbounds on that play, who knows how the rest of the game would've played out. He has shown signs of being able to develop into a legitimate, playmaking wide receiver in the NFL. He has also shown that his diminutive frame can hinder his ability to be consistently productive. So far, if you can get into his grill at the snap and get physical, it's game over for him. But, to be fair, if you try and FAIL to get into his grill at the snap, he can smoke you and create 5 yards of separation in an instant. None of us Bills fans would consider it very fair if people were to judge Keon Coleman halfway through his rookie season, so I'll extend the same courtesy to Worthy. He's developing. He's making some plays. I'm happy with our guy so far, and I'm betting the Chiefs are happy with theirs.

Absolutely. In the games she's actually attended this year, they really haven't shown her much. I'd be shocked if it's more than a collective 25 seconds in the entire broadcast. As you said...beats the hell out of Fireman Ed, Bills Elvis, or the 14th extreme-closeup of Andy Reid's snotty walrus mustache.