Logic

Yeah I’ve heard the Giants want to turn one of their 1sts into a 2023 1st. I wonder if the Bills would trade #25 and next year’s first for Sauce Gardner or Derek Stingley. They certainly seem to be in an aggressive “win now” mindset, and while it would suck to give up next year’s 1st, corner IS a high value position, and a White/Stingley or White/Gardner pairing could take this defense to the next level. The presence of close Beane buddy Joe Schoen in the top ten — twice, no less — and wanting to trade down is certainly interesting…

Hamilton is awesome, but it would be a bizarre “spinning our wheels” move to trade up for a safety. I also don’t think it would play well in the locker room to move on from Po or Hyde, not to mention both guys are coming off career years. I get planning for the future, but it would be downright weird and illogical of me to move up for a safety.

The two key questions here: Who would the Bills be moving up for? What veterans have trade value? The logical answers to the first question would seem to be a corner or WR. Maybe they really like Derek Stingley or Jameson Williams. The only answers I could come up with to the second question are Tremaine Edmunds and Zack Moss. Interesting report. I can’t see them moving up TOO high, as it would cost a ton to get from 25th into the top 10. Maybe they just want to get inside the top 20 to ensure they get one of these WRs or CBS before the talent level drops off.

High school.

Zig is good. I’m not saying this is a lead pipe lock, but it’s also not nothing. Don’t be surprised if it happens. And for the love of God, let’s not turn this into a Tremaine Edmunds thread!

I saw that Taron Johnson has changed his jersey number (I hate it) and Jamison Crowder will wear # 80. I figured this could serve as the official jersey changes and new player jersey numbers thread.

Ever since Beane came to town, the Bills only seem to take physical freaks with high ceilings in the first round. McDuffie is not that. I’d bet that a trade up for one of the top corners or a trade down to collect more picks in the middle rounds — the sweet spot of this draft — would be more likely.

I voted McDuffie, but man it’s hard not to want Karlaftis or Wyatt. Obviously, our free agency moves and depth chart make both of them seem like unwise selections.

I’d bet anything that Brady only agreed to come back when he was given assurances Arians would not be returning as head coach.

McDuffie sure doesn’t fit the body type they typically like. His arm length is concerning. I could see him, Gordon, Hall, Zion Johnson, or a trade-down. Funny thing is that the two best players available might be Devonte Wyatt and George Karlaftis, but would they really take a DT or edge ?

….. Well *****. In that case, it’ll be a McDuffie vs Dotson vs Breece Hall battle to the death.

Great pick for the Cowboys. Exactly what they need. As for the Bills’ pick: with Sauce, Stingley, and Booth off the board, I predict a landslide vote for WR Chris Olave. Sure, CB Trent McDuffie could be the pick, but it feels like Olave’s gonna take this one. Just my guess.

While I agree that Beasley lost a step last season, I also think teams came into games against the Bills with two primary objectives: Stop Diggs and stop Beasley. Specifically, if I recall correctly, at least one opposing defender mentioned -- or perhaps it was Josh himself who mentioned it -- that the Bills offense has certain "rules" on which way the receivers are supposed to run their option routes based on the coverage. So if it's "Coverage X", the five yard option route turns into a dig. If it's "Coverage Y", the five yard option route becomes an out. Teams, through film study and because a lot of the Erhardt-Perkins and Mouse Davis concepts the Bills were running have been around for years, were often able to mess up the Bills' "rules" on these routes through post-snap rotation into different coverage that what was initially shown, thus causing the WR to choose the wrong option. I think a combination of teams keying on Beasley more (particularly on 3rd and short to medium), teams having a good read on the Bills' passing game "rules" and taking away option routes, and Beasley losing a step either due to injury or age all combined to explain his less effective season. That said, he still caught 82 passes, the same as the year before. He just didn't seem to do as much with them. In any case, I'm hopeful the Bills can get more athletic, dynamic, and explosive at the slot position. Crowder is younger and probably better at getting RAC yardage, but I'd still like to see them upgrade in the draft.

The idea of a Kenny Pickett vs Mitch Trubisky QB competition existing in the world makes me even more thankful for Josh Allen, which is something I didn't think I could be. I kid, I kid. I like Mitch. And Kenny Pickett, um...plays quarterback, too. Good, logical pick by Virgil. But what a bad year to need a QB...

Indeed. As much as I love the idea of the Bills taking a WR on day 1 — I just really like a few of the projected round one guys — I must admit that it seems wiser to take a CB in the first if there is one there worth taking. The WR class is simply deeper. The Bills can take a WR anywhere from rounds 2-4 who will likely be capable of competing for WR3 duties from day one, or certainly by mid season.

Jordan Poyer had 2 INTs in four seasons before joining the Bills. If you don’t think a 2nd round pick from three years ago has as much of a chance of making an NFL roster as the dozen UDFA they bring to camp every year, I don’t know what to tell ya.

Two nobody has mentioned yet: - His TD throw to Diggs against Arizona that should’ve been the game winner. That throw — in that moment of the game — was a thing if absolute beauty. - After losing his Grandma, he came out and DEMOLISHED the Seahawks. I know it was against a bad defense, but I don’t care. To play that well while grieving like he was, was an incredible thing.

It’s crazy the amount of records Josh has broken and highlights he’s turned in in just four seasons. I mean…he quarterbacked the only perfect offensive game in the HISTORY of the NFL. It’s almost impossible to comprehend that this really happened. Hell, his jersey is already in the Hall of Fame. He’s 25! And yet, despite all this…..it certainly feels like he’s not finished improving, and that he’s just getting started. It is not hyperbole to say that his upside/ceiling is “best quarterback of all time”. His combination of physical talent and intangibles is THAT impressive.

I guess neither of you read the part where I mentioned he was badly miscast in Green Bay’s scheme and that I want to sign him FOR CHEAP. He had EIGHT interceptions his junior year at Iowa. Everyone knew he was a big, strong, lanky zone corner, and the Packers took him in round two and promptly stuck him in a man-heavy scheme for which he was ill suited. You bring 90 men to camp. I’m not saying he’s “the answer” at CB. I’m saying that I’d like to give him vet minimum and let him compete. Would love to know what y’all’s reactions were to bringing in Jordan Poyer. Sometimes you need a second chance.

I still want the Bills to sign Josh Jackson to a cheap deal. Badly miscast in GB’s scheme. I refuse to believe he doesn’t deserve a second chance, but in a scheme that suits his talents.

Falcons need talent pretty much everywhere. Hard to argue against the best WR in the draft for a team that has absolutely no one of note at that position. And it should certainly help unlock Pitts, which is the best thing they can do for their offense overall. Nice pick.

There are quite a few free agent corners still on the market. Steven Nelson, Joe Haden, Patrick Peterson, Kyle Fuller, Bryce Callahan, Janoris Jenkins, and Kevin King are still sitting out there, unsigned. James Bradberry may also be released by the Giants. One of them is going to take the bait on Brandon Beane's "come play for peanuts and a chance to win a ring on a one year deal!" pitch. Count on it. EDIT: Personally, I will continue to stump for Josh Jackson. 2nd round pick out of Iowa by the Packers, BADLY miscast in their man-heavy scheme. 6 feet tall, long arms, ball-hawking zone corner when he was at Iowa. Just 25 years old. Would likely only command vet minimum or close to it. A zero-risk, "Bring him to camp and let him compete" signing. I bet the change in scenery and switch to our scheme would resurrect his career.

Just wanted to point out that the Bills have really transitioned to a highly athletic offensive line this offseason. Every guy in the starting five posted good to great RAS scores. Dawkins was the lowest at 7.63. The rest, if I'm not mistaken, all posted 9+. Saffold is a former tackle and moves like it. Morse is one of the better and more mobile pass blocking centers in the league. Bates is a former tackle and moves like it. Spencer Brown is an athletic freak. Whether the Bills lean fully into the zone blocking scheme or continue with some of the pin-and-pull stuff they got into late last year, look for them to take full advantage of the elite athleticism of their offensive line this year. Almost makes you wonder if they're thinking of pairing a speedy new running back with this retooled, athletic line in order to take fuller advantage of its talents...

Right, sorry. Bears and Texans, please.

Thanks as always for doing this. I'd like the Chiefs, please.