Bill_with_it

Thankssame to fellow nfl fan!

New thread police huh? Gotta make sure you announce you have seen the thread before.

Qbs only get heckled in camp when they tuck the ball and run when its cbs vs wrs ala Manuel.

Hopefully a higher one to which he believes in is able to provide him comfort in this terrible time of his life. My thoughts and prayers are to you Todd and your family.

I agree unless Adams or Williams is there then stock them picks up. Thats the line of thinking that destroys franchises. Whaley shouldnt be drafting worrying about his job, he ahould be drafting based on the team. If he does the latter his job will be ok. When you start chasing glory then thats usually a terrible draft style.

They wathced Ej manuel stink up the joint for three years and until Tyrod was aquired. What makes you think they do anything different?

My mind is telling me to pass on the option. If hes can produce as well as everyone thinking he can and remain healthy enough to benefit the team on the field, hes foing to coat us regardless. So tag him next year (not guaranteed for injury), vice giving him 13 mil fully guaranteed, let his play and body do the talking. Best case scenario for all involved its an extra 3 mil (sammy produces), worst case Sammy folds up and we can reclaim some money so we dont have Justin Hunter as our number one the rest of the year. Either way its a one year rental with an ability to extend. Only difference is one optionnis guaranteed against injury the other isnt. With Sammys injury history im much more in the wait and see mode versus outting us in undue cap hell for someone that might not be able to produce.

Nope but banking on an oft injured wr that hasnt shown his body has the propensity to be healthy enough for his team to benefit from him beingnon the team and handing him a fully guaranteed check in the way of an option when there are other options available is dereliction of duty.

When Gruden is commentating on football games he makes the backup linebackers sound like the next coming of Lawerence Taylor. Hes hot air and likely gets paid by players agents to prop these guys up.

You made a holistic declaration that was untrue as you have evey time I have interacted with you. Its in the rule book. If the bills were against the cap they could take it to arbitration hence the money isnt guaranteed. You explained nothing you reached by using one of the most obscure stats that you came up with that isnt a stat that determines a wrs worth. If it was then Jordi nelson, Malcom Floyd, Marquise Colston, Vincent Jackson, and Henry Allard would have been paid top money. They havent because GMs dont recognize that stat as an indication of worth.

Bills official twitter just tweeted: Cardale Jones is ready to fight for the backup QB role.

No its not read the reat of the paragraph:For purposes of this Subsection only, any contract termination due to the failure of the player to establish or maintain his excellent physical condition will be subject to review of a neutral physician appointed by the parties, whose physical findings will be conclusive in any arbitration proceeding relating to the physical condition of the player at the time of the exam, provided that such exam takes place within twenty (20) days of the contract termination. Read more: http://www.thefootballeducator.com/nfl-cba-article-10-franchise-transition-players/#ixzz4eEtGJXSv

Did you read what you copied and pasted? It means his pay isnt guaranteed he has to go to arbitration if the club deems not to pay him beaciase of injury= not guaranteed. No matter what you do to try to muddy the watters his pay isnt guaranteed against injury if we franchise him and yards per target is not a meteic that any rational evaluator would ise to determine a wrs starus as elite. Point still stands TD mike has higg yards per carry are you going to pay him top hb money? No that would be silly because he hasnt shown a propensity to perform at that level in any sustained manner. Paying top ten money to a wr who hasnt shown he is top ten would be another cap crushing mistake.

Stop spreading rampant wrong informationNo the franchise tag isnt fully guaranteed: 5. Franchise tender is guaranteed, with one exception. Once a player signs the franchise tag, the one-year salary becomes fully guaranteed. But theres a little-known exception. Under Article 10, Section 2© of the CBA, the contract can be terminated if the player fails to establish or maintain his excellent physical condition. TD mike is picking up a ton of yards per carry are we gonna sign him to what would almost equate to top ten pay because he is geeting hefty yards per touch? No that's ludicrous as is the notion to put Watkins in the same stratosphere as elite wrs.

You can'tbe serious. All you said on BBMB is that Manuel needed more time after his first year yet Goff is an overreach after playing in exactly 7 games on a true dumpster fire team with 205 attempts. Oh man thats comical.

It would cost 13 mil guaranteed for watkins at least for the option.If sammy misses time he gets paid. If Sammy misses time we likely have to get another wr vosting more money. We could easily franchise tag him if he shows he is more valuable production this year than last year. Production warrants paydays. Its a buisness. Last year Sammys production was below that of Robert Woods. If the talent isnt on the field and on the trainers table it doesnt matter how talenred the player is.

The money is guaranteed against injury. Its not a better buisness decision you save appx 3 mil if Sammy can stay healthy (something he has shown to have difficulty at). Its far more likely that saving 3 mil gets spent on some wr to fill his position this when hes injured while we are also paying him 13 mil which would likely exceed the franchise tag. The franchise tag isnt guaranteed against injury. Sammy watkins has shown me nothing to place him with the likes of the highest rated wrs in the league. He had a fine half season of foitball in 2015. But prior to that he was asnt tops or near tops in anything of substance. History is riddled with examples of wrs breaking out for a year and then falling back down to earth. Make Sammy earn it before paying him.

Agreed see if he can manage some semblence of a complete season before committing 13 mil to him. If he can manage a complete season franchise him and negotiate a full contract before the franchise tag kicks in. Its pretty simple, keep emotions out and let a good buisness decision prevail.

When did Sammy complete four season as an nfl wr. He was a rookie in 2014. Ab was available for 53 games his first year. In 2012 he missed 4 games due to injury.so your not painting the complete picture. Although he only started 27 games he had 3630. Jj played in 48 games his first four years amassing 4424 ap yards and 28 tds. Ill be sure to revisit this topic st the end of this season. I cant put Sammy in an elite status when he hasnt shown he has the capability of being elite.

Does he out produce them in number of games played? Bo jackson could have been but isnt..

Yikes.

There were quite abit if noise around him at the senior bowl suggesting he is capable of being a starter. Right now hes visiting with the Seahawks.

Speculation doesnt pook good on you. So far thats all u have. He said his agent spoke casually to teams. He said his agent didnt speak about money or things like that. You choose to not believe him, i choose to believe him. But continue to speculate and make things up to which you have no evidence meanwhile stating im naive. Its ok you have been quite wrong in the thread so far I dont expect you ll be able to be right.

Uber yikes how about putting his full statement out there instead of willfully ignoring whatbTyrod said:As far as the money, we didnt get into too many specifics, Taylor said. My agent cant get into too much because of me still being in a contract with the Bills. So it was more of casual conversation. I was never technically released so they couldnt get into numbers or offers that were out there.

One last time did the bills cut or release taylor or state that was their intentions.