HappyDays
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Gettleman is an idiot. The Giants are in terrible hands.
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49 minutes ago, GG said:
Let's not forget that Palmer had Darnold & Allen in his clinic this year
This is a fair point and I haven't seen him talk about Darnold nearly as much. Maybe he really saw something in Josh Allen. If he ends up sucking that will make it look like Palmer has no clue what he's talking about, so in some ways he's staking his own reputation on Allen's development.
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28 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
I guess that's not including the racist/white supremacist leanings, am I right?
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2 hours ago, NewEraBills said:
It wasn't Rosen or they would have taken him. I don't think Mayfield was in their plan either. To me, Darnold was the only other top guy they were going to take.
FWIW Benjamin Albright said the Bills and Cardinals had Allen as their #1 QB. He's been pretty accurate throughout the whole draft process and was one of the first reporters to link us to Allen so I believe him. No way to know for sure of course.
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He specifically mentioned Robert Foster as a standout UDFA which makes me think he has a good chance of sticking around, especially with the Daboll connection.
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Doesn't sound like a process guy
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9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
ESB will be out of the NFL before long. He isn't competitive and isn't physical enough to survive in pro secondaries. He's just a name that people heard a lot so they assume he must be good.
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13 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:
People keep pointing to Josh Allen's success in the Senior Bowl game. The Senior Bowl game is a single event exhibition game. It's impossible to judge how good or bad any college player is in that game.
I know. But it's the only data point we have since his training with Palmer started. I wonder if the Bill's could just hire him to be his personal QB coach. I don't trust anyone on this staff to do it.
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I wanted to revisit this thread because I've spent the past couple days convincing myself to like the pick. What I've landed on is his rawness. I know people like to use that term for any QB that is a physical specimen without having any of the position's cerebral traits. I think the term is overused. When people said EJ Manuel was "raw" what they really meant is that he was bad. He had been focused on football since his freshman year of high school, and he went to a top football program where he had world class coaching for 4 years straight. That's not raw.
I believe Josh Allen actually is raw. He only played football a couple years in high school and it wasn't his only focus. He played in junior college and then in the Mountain West. He had no professional training at any point, it's all been his natural abilities and whatever his coaches at Wyoming could show him. He finally got a few months of professional coaching from Jordan Palmer and suddenly he showed improvement at the Senior Bowl. If he can fix the cerebral aspects of the position through coaching he will be great. His best throws are simply incredible, only a few people in the NFL have his natural talent.-
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No one expects the team to be good this year, its all about building for the future. The Tyrod trade got us Edmunds and Teller. They're way more important to our future than he would have been.
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38 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:
I wish we had someone to develop him on the staff. We have a TE and a WR coach trying to teach him how to play QB. I'd feel a lot better if he had someone that played the position to help him.
I'll go on record as not being a fan of the pick but I'm trying to come around. He does throw some beautiful balls that are perfectly placed and had some terrible drops by wrs. But there's times he has a clear view of a defender that is going to intercept the pass and throws it anyway. Saw a bunch of his out passes that would be picked in the pros.
I feel a lot better about him than I did about EJ or losman but something is still missing. I hope I'm wrong and the kid can put it all together.
This is exactly how I feel about him. You can't deny that he has the ability to make incredible throws. The one throw he makes at I think the 24 minute mark is ridiculous. His best throws are better than any throw of any QB in this draft, they're just not as frequent as you'd like. He just doesn't make smart decisions all the time, takes sacks he shouldn't take or gets lazy with his footwork in anticipation of pressure. He sometimes has bad movement in the pocket but occasionally it's perfect. By all accounts he's smart and dedicated so I'm hoping he puts it all together eventually, I feel a lot better about it than I did when we first announced the pick.
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44 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:
If he doesn’t improve his footwork, I think it’s highly unlikely he wins the starting job seeing as that will effect his accuracy.
McCarron and Peterman could conceivably be worse even if his footwork is inconsistent. I wish we had a real veteran QB here, that would be ideal. Maybe they feel better about McCarron than I do but they waited until every other FA QB was taken so that doesn't seem right. They must feel that Allen is closer to starting than people think.
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The video is 30 minutes long but it goes into good detail on what Allen does well and what he needs to develop.
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3 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:
If he’s the best QB on the roster, then he deserves and should play.
I don't necessarily agree with that. If his footwork is still inconsistent it makes no sense to throw him into a real NFL game. That will just ingrain his bad muscle memory. He must be brought along slowly. Our offense is probably going to suck this year no matter who the QB is. He needs to improve his mechanical issues before he should see the field IMO. Even if in every other way he's the best QB in training camp.
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2 hours ago, BillsGuru4 said:
I think we are going to love this pick
Kam Chancellor was a 5th rounder and his scouting report reads pretty similar to Neal's. Except Neal is 3 inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter.
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I hope Foster sticks around. We need a vertical threat.
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What is the love affair with St Brown on this board? He isn't physical and offers nothing special.
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He has a decent understanding of pro concepts but I don't think he should see the field until his footwork is fixed. If that somehow happens by September, great. If not be patient and let him grow.
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13 minutes ago, Rise Up Lights said:
Love it.
He looks like a heat seeking missile in this video. Did he just fall because he went to a small school? In some of those highlights he looks like the best player on the field.
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4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
My school!!
Only 13 players ever have been drafted out of Jacksonville State.
Interesting quote from MMQB, possibly in reference to Bills
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Gettleman loves when the camera is on him. He sees himself as the face of the franchise in his own mind. The press conference where he argued that RBs should be drafted high was embarrassing. Poor Giants fans.