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8 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
Greg Rosenthal loves our draft!
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Buffalo Bills: The Bills traded out of their No. 10 overall pick a year ago, passing on the chance to draft Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson in favor of amassing draft capital. This season, the Bills usedsignificant draft capital to trade up for quarterback Josh Allen (moving from 12th overall to seventh). The kids would call that hustling backward, especially when Allen has an uphill climb just to surpass previous Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor's level of production.
Bills fans will point to this being the first draft for GM Brandon Beane, who was hired last May, but that only emphasizes how tricky it is to come up with a cohesive roster when the GM and coach are always in flux. Allen could prove his skeptics wrong, and his athleticism is unquestionable, but Josh Rosen has clearly displayed a more obvious NFL skill set. Allen is reminiscent of a souped-up version of another Bills first-round quarterback: J.P. Losman, a player with accuracy issues who was a star in the pre-draft season because of his measurables. Losman was taken 22nd overall in the 2004 NFL Draft and proceeded to compile a 10-23 record in Buffalo.
The only thing dumber than mock drafts is people that assign grades the day after a pick. I still remember when people were excited over the draft that netted us Lawson, Ragland, Washington, Cardale Jones, Jon Williams, Listenbee, and Seymour. Seriously a lot of Bills fans were calling it one of the best Bills drafts ever when it was done.
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10 minutes ago, LanderPoke said:
75% of you are idiots. Josh will be the best QB in this draft. Book it.
I've watched every single one of Josh's snaps in college and I can tell you that he's a leader and commands respect. JA is the most competitive and hard-working QB you will ever see. He's smart and takes instruction well. Humble kid. Highest wonderlic among the big time QBs.
Brinkus said before the draft that he has the strongest arm in NFL history and the fastest release time that they have ever measure on sports science. And most of you guys act like he's some bum. smh. You will not believe it when you see him throw the ball. It's unreal. It's akin to Rembrandt painting or Einstein doing physics. Josh was put on this earth to throw a football. watch the master work. It's possible that he's got the most gifted arm ever
Josh also had the best broad jump, vertical and 40 among the top QBs.
The only guy in two years that could really tackle Josh one v one was Vander Esh from Boise who just went 19th to the Cowboys. It's unreal how well he moves and how powerful and nimble he is at his size. It's honestly a lot like Cam Newton. Watch the tape and you will see countless broken tackles and outrun defenders.
This brings me to the main point. Josh has had no coaching. Brent Vigen, QB coach and O coordinator, sucks worse than any coach I've ever known of. He runs a pro-style offense that is the least imaginative, easiest to defend, predictable piece of **** known to man. Wyoming averaged the worst yards per rush in the MWC with a future 1st round talent. Everyone was keying on Josh and would drop a ton into coverage and we could still only manage a meager rushing attack.
Wyoming lost to San Jose with out Josh. let that sink in. the worst team in college football. He was the sole reason we won any games and he dragged us to 8. 8 wins! He's a winner. We won because of his unimaginable talent... and a stingy d at times. There were dropped passes every game. Playcalling was atrocious and predictable.
don't be uninformed sheep
I'm not convinced that any of this is true but I appreciate your enthusiasm and I'm ready to be infected by it. The Einstein of football, that's a new one lol.
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36 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
My guess is that Beane's and McDermott's employment with the Bills will be over by the end of the 2019 season as a result of yesterday's disaster.
That's fair but don't dwell on it too much. This board will become borderline unreadable if it's filled with people talking about how much Josh Allen sucks before he's even been to his first training camp. At least wait for him to hit the hospitality tent before you declare him a bust. When you buy a lottery ticket you don't spend all day bitching about how stupid you are and how probability says you're going to lose. You wait for the numbers to be called and hope you hit the jackpot.
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3 hours ago, mjt328 said:
Is it because of his arm strength, and the fact he can throw an 80-yard bomb?
Arm strength is NOT just about 80 yard bombs. It's about beating defenders on tight window throws. If you're gonna get excited about Josh Allen that's why. He has a howitzer arm and very little football training in life. If we can help him put the rest of it together he will be great but it's a project.
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7 minutes ago, Sweats said:
Um yeah.........no.
Watson has proven himself as a star in this league, after only one season mind you.
Uh huh. I seem to remember another mobile QB whose stellar rookie season ended with a knee injury. He must have went on to have a great career.
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Eh I think if he's better than half of them that would be enough. Would I bet on that? Nope. Beane's job is on the line with this selection, that's for sure.
10 minutes ago, jjmac said:We made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor last year. Now we have better throwers in the QB room, and people are complaining.
You absolutely cannot say this with certainty yet.
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2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
Now, we went after a big strong QB who might also be good. I would much rather miss with a qb than waste another prime pick on a db or rb.
Most of us would have rather missed on Rosen. He is the QB that projects to be a Manning/Brady type if things go well. Or we could have traded a bunch of picks to the Giants and taken Darnold. It isn't that we took a QB, it's that we're concerned we picked the wrong one when there were better options on paper.
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Bill the fanbase has seen this episode before. Allen gives us flashbacks to Losman and Manuel because his scouting report is very similar. It's the same reason the fanbase would have hated Lamar Jackson as the pick, because we just got done with Tyrod Taylor. We are sick of trying to outsmart the league and pick QBs on traits that don't win Super Bowls. We're sick of picking QBs based on their ability to play in the snow. We've seen Tom Brady rewrite the history books with an average arm, but elite accuracy and mental processing. Josh Allen does not have those traits and it scares us that we're waltzing down the same dumb path we've been on again and again this millennium.
Now all that being said I am warming up to the pick. A) because I have to, and B) because there are people who have watched a lot of his throws and concluded that he has elite potential. People on this board even. And I can't dismiss their opinions outright. So I am hoping and praying this pick will not be a disaster. I like his personality, I like that he ran a pro system at Wyoming, I like that for the first time in his life he'll be playing with legitimate talent. And of course everyone loves his arm. I'll focus on the positives until Allen proves me wrong. I expect most of his detractors will do the same once the shock wears off.-
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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I told myself I'd order the jersey of whatever QB we took tonight. This cemented it.
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13 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
All good brother, and listen, Allen was NOT my choice either. However, I had Rosen and Allen about the same on my risk board and Lamar right there with them. The only QB I was very high on was Baker.
So, for me, its not about being a homer...its about not seeing one QB so far over the other that I am upset at who we got. I was actually quite against Allen going into the offseason, but I even admitted in threads that his offseason had actually started to sway me and wowed me. I am not a guy who likes "combine heroes" but Allen had undisputedly the best workouts and combine and shown great improvement in areas he was working on. And thats what you want to see, guys making progress and quickly.
And also, the inaccuracy issue is over exaggerated a bit when you look at the garbage Allen played with and all the dropped passes, weak routes, etc. There are GM's on record saying he was by far the best QB prospect in this draft (even though I didn't share that opinion personally).
So, at the end of the day...I don't see why its necessary to freak out today. I mean a couple hours ago, he was looking to go top 4, maybe even #1 overall. So there is still a lot to like about the kid. Spending time now trying to make a case for him to be a bust is futile...hes a Bill...our regime loved him for a reason. So lets just be stoked we got a new QB with a huge ceiling and a great LB prospect too and wait to judge him after he shows us what he can do with pads on.
Thanks Alphadawg. This post makes me feel better about the pick.
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I would have liked them to mention more positives than "he's a great athlete" and "he played in bad weather." That doesn't make me confident they made this pick for the right reasons.
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Anyone know if Allen is known for work ethic?
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I love the pick. My fear is that this regime will be remembered for drafting great defensive players but never getting it right on offense.
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He's live on WGR
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9 minutes ago, LEBills said:
Maybe stop complaining until then when he gets a chance to, huh?
I've hated on Josh Allen as much as anyone on this board. But he's a Bill now and I'm going to expect him to be great until he proves me wrong.
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Both our 1st round picks were drafted in potential. I'm worried about our depth based on the number of picks we have left. We're gonna be pretty bad this year but they're thinking long term so we just have to trust the process.
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Okay after reading about Edmunds I like the pick. We hopefully just got the QB for our defense.
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We drafted 7th and 16th. 716
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We won't pick again until #96... I don't know man I don't like this draft at all.
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Man this regime loves their trade ups. So much for analytics I guess.
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4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:
Ok, I'm over the shock and starting to find reasons to get excited (as I always do, I try my best to be a positive "look at the bright side" type of person).
This team holds me hostage. Already my brain has decided he can be great. Why not right?? I'm just happy we didn't give up extra 1sts for him.
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God I actually think we'll start Peterman this year
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So are we tanking this year? Allen isn't seeing the field and we have 2 backups otherwise.
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Well I'm over it. I desperately want to be wrong about him. No sense in declaring him a bust now. We better get a QB coach.
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What I Don't Understand About Fan Reaction to Allen
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Sure but EJ's career wouldn't have been saved if he had had a stronger arm. That's the problem with picking Allen. A strong arm isn't enough. We just have to hope he develops.