HappyDays
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1 hour ago, RiotAct said:
let’s hope that remains when the bullets start flying in early September! I have high hopes for Bishop too.
If nothing else it's notable that he's with the starting defense, and getting them into position at that. That tells you the coaching staff is impressed with how prepared he came into OTAs. This regime is not the type to hand out jobs based on draft position. If anything I would have expected Hamlin to have the job early by default and force Bishop to steal it from him. Instead Bishop has the job on day one of OTAs. That's promising.
Bishop's physical traits have never been in question. If his mental game has caught up that's a huge boon to the secondary.
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On Bishop:
QuoteJust a day into OTAs, it was clear how much more comfortable he looked and sounded in his second year in the scheme. He was extremely quick to read his keys and had the confidence to make instinctive moves to try to play a hunch, either against the run or pass.
Ahead of the snap, Bishop was a constant communicator with Taylor Rapp, Taron Johnson, Christian Benford and others. You could hear Bishop’s loud, booming voice as clear as day ahead of the snap to try to get everyone on the same page. The confidence in both of those equally important phases is a solid step forward from where things began around this time last year. The Bills have always maintained that safety is one of the more difficult positions for young players to walk into as a rookie, but in his second year, Bishop appears to have stepped up his game in the early stages.
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37 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Second update is that Elijah Moore made a lot of plays today and caught a TD from Josh Allen. Parrino also said Tre White did not have a good day, giving up that TD to Moore and another to Samuel.
You can read between the lines on these reports to see what the depth chart looks like early. From this we can conclude that Moore is in with the 1st team offense and White is in with the 1st team defense, and least some of the time.
Next update is Keon Coleman had a great practice and looked like the best receiver out there.
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14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I subscribe to texts from Matt Parrino, he sends out updates throughout OTAs and training camp. It's worth the $5 per month. His first update today is that early defensive standouts in team drills were TJ Sanders and Landson Jackson. So that's a promising start. Sanders in particular I am really excited about. The more I watch of him the more I think his skill set will really translate to the NFL.
Second update is that Elijah Moore made a lot of plays today and caught a TD from Josh Allen. Parrino also said Tre White did not have a good day, giving up that TD to Moore and another to Samuel.
You can read between the lines on these reports to see what the depth chart looks like early. From this we can conclude that Moore is in with the 1st team offense and White is in with the 1st team defense, and least some of the time.
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I subscribe to texts from Matt Parrino, he sends out updates throughout OTAs and training camp. It's worth the $5 per month. His first update today is that early defensive standouts in team drills were TJ Sanders and Landson Jackson. So that's a promising start. Sanders in particular I am really excited about. The more I watch of him the more I think his skill set will really translate to the NFL.
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Hopefully a good sign:
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Ugh sucks about Bosa. Hopefully it's just precautionary. I don't need to see too much of him on the field before January.
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What a gut punch. My thoughts are with his family and the Colts fanbase.
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4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
If it's not a distraction why does the NFL have to force a team to be on it?
Because a coach like McDermott convinces himself that it is a distraction. But he's wrong.
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8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
What's the upside? All I see is downside because it's a distraction.
The upside is that following the Bills is a source of entertainment, and this adds more entertainment to my life.
There is no meaningful distraction. Cameras will film the practice which already happens at most training camps anyways and occasionally a player will be whisked away for a quick interview.
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Awesome news. I am all for more Bills content during the slow time of the year.
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11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
He runs longer routes than the majority of tight ends
I don't know how you can say that when his own teammate Knox had a higher ADOT than him... And I don't have concrete statistics on this, but my perception was that in the back half of the season Kincaid's ADOT went down while Knox's went up, indicating that the team felt Knox was more effective on those throws and Kincaid's role needed to be simplified. I just don't think he has the nuances of NFL route running. It's one thing to have good footwork and hip flexion which to my eyes Kincaid has, but route running also requires an innate understanding of coverage spacing and leverage. That's where he has fallen way behind and it explains his low catch percentage IMO.
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9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
Or he's been double bracketed as a rookie which takes time to learn how to play through bracket coverage
Watch the videos I posted above. He isn't getting bracketed on those routes... Come on man. He drifts on routes, he runs past zone windows or stops running before the window, he doesn't make any difficult catches. He looks like someone that is completely overwhelmed by the speed of the NFL. My take is that after two years it's unlikely he's going to suddenly adjust to pro speed. Some players just don't have the instincts and the processing ability. I really hope I'm wrong though.
FWIW I was a huge fan of his coming out, he was my draft crush that year and I was psyched when he fell to us. I believe in that year's draft thread I posted "Allen just got his Travis Kelce." But I have to abandon his college profile and be honest about what I'm seeing on the NFL tape. He has a lot to put together for him to even come close to being worth his draft slot.
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
Allen and kincaid also completed the third most deep attempts between a quarterback and TE last year
In a bad year according to some
I mean that's a hyper-specific stat with a very low sample size across the NFL. Like what am I supposed to take away from that? It doesn't eliminate the year he had which was indeed bad. Below 60% catch rate, low ADOT, 34.5 YPG, 6 yards per target. All that with the NFL MVP throwing him the ball and no elite pass catchers taking targets away. There's no dressing up those numbers. It was bad.
The narrative du jour amongst Bills fans is "high uncatchable target rate." Okay... What does that mean? Why are the passes uncatchable? Why is Kincaid the only target Allen has had with that problem? I think there's a lot of blind hope masquerading as analysis.
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5 minutes ago, Rigotz said:
Kincaid played one season of high school football. He caught one pass in 2020, then he played two years of college ball before coming to the Bills. Expecting him to be "plug and play" at the position that typically requires the most ramp up time is ridiculous.
He wasn't seen as a raw prospect though. Not at all. His skill set was supposed to translate pretty quickly to the NFL... It just hasn't been as advertised. His biggest strengths coming out were supposed to be natural movement skills, hands, and cerebral route spacing. Of those only the movement skills have translated.
TE has traditionally been a tough position to translate to the NFL because they have to learn pass blocking and pass catching. Not so with Kincaid. He has been treated more like a slot WR and those players either adapt to the pros early or they never do. See: Skyy Moore, Elijah Moore, Ladd McConkey. You figure out pretty early on if slot WRs have what it takes. Shakir didn't have it his first year but in year two he had obviously figured it out. Kincaid in year two went backwards... He has to take a HUGE step this year to be worth his draft pick.
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7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
This is my simplistic opinion looking at all of this. Josh thinks he's throwing to Knox. Kincaid isn't as strong as Knox. How do you fix that?
I don't expect him to transform his body and become Gronk. But that's also not what we drafted him to be. We drafted him to be like Kelce, a cerebral player with movement skills who acts as an extension of his QB and can quickly diagnose how to make himself an available target. That's what his scouting report projected him to be. I worry that that skill is something you either naturally have or you don't, and that he falls firmly in the "don't" category, but I'm trying to stay hopeful that he can develop it with another full offseason studying the same system.
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Honestly the more I see of Kincaid last year the worse I feel about his ability to put it all together. Feels like he just has so much to work on. Strength through contact, route running precision, route spacing, difficult catches... The only thing he really has going for him right now is his natural movement skills. All of the other nuances that come with NFL pass catching just aren't there right now.
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This is a good selection of plays and Erik's framing of the problem is exactly right - it's miscues between Allen and Kincaid leading to a lot of these.
Something I notice is that Kincaid's movements are a lot of times unpredictable, the speed and direction of his routes is a little all over the place. Which makes it impossible for Allen to deliver accurate passes. I think Kincaid lacks confidence in his own ability to read the defense, and that lack of confidence is showing up in his sporadic route running.
On a couple of these plays he is running past an open zone window into coverage, or inexplicably slowing down when he should instead continue running into open space. Allen needs to be able to know where Kincaid is headed and trust that Kincaid is reading the spacing properly, and in these clips that is clearly not happening.
Also in these clips Kincaid fails to make a single difficult catch. If you're going to be a primarily pass catching TE in the NFL you need to be able to occasionally rip a ball away from a LB or scoop a low pass. It can't always be perfect.
The margin for error with him was overall just way too low because of his route running and catch ability. No wonder we kept his ADOT low and made Knox the primary target on deeper throws. I know the team's messaging has been that he needs to get his strength up. I continue to believe that his biggest area of improvement will actually come in the film room. Separation only counts if you end up in the right spot to create the best possible throwing window. Separating but then continuing to run into coverage might make your separation metrics look better, but it doesn't make an effective route.
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5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Yea he has only failed to have 1,000 yards once and that year he missed 3 games.
He missed 4 games this past season and still ended up over 1,000 yards in a run heavy offense... I have no clue how anyone could argue he isn't elite. For my money he's on track to end up in the Hall of Fame if he keeps up his pace.
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Diggs' Drama
in The Stadium Wall
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I never thought it was impossible for us to cut Diggs like some fans argued, but I at least understood that viewpoint. What I didn't understand was the fans who acted like there was nothing wrong with Diggs. A lot of people buried their heads in the sand. The constant whiny tweets, the offseason podcasts where he openly criticized the team, the reports of him falling out with Allen, him going AWOL from mandatory minicamp. Even after all that there were a lot of fans saying it was just "Diggs being Diggs" and that the media was creating a controversy out of nothing. Now with each passing story since we traded him we find out he was even more toxic than the media made him out to be. When people tell you who they are, believe them, even if they happen to play for your favorite team.