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2 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:
Why is okay for Josh Allen to make racial and homophobic statements but it's not ok for Russ Brandon to hook up with a female employee?
Rather than answer this question I want to hear what you think the answer is.
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8 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
It was only a kiss, it was only a kiss
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This is it. The sign we've been waiting for that things have changed in Buffalo.
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25 minutes ago, OJABBA said:
Imagine him with one of the elite wide receivers just hauling down the sideline. If the Bills can manage to get one, it will be a thing of beauty.
He and Kelvin Benjamin should work very well together. Allen won't care if he's open, he'll chuck it somewhere in his vicinity and Benjamin will go up and get it. I hope his injury issues are cleared up because he's the perfect WR for Allen to have in his developmental years.
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It's bad enough when the national media acts like the Patriots are magicians who can pull off anything they want. Why do Bills fans fall for the same trick? There was zero chance the Pats would end up with a top 5 pick in this draft. Zero.
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3 minutes ago, Mikey152 said:
his analytics show he is a top half of the NFL quarterback. Maybe even top 10.
This isn't true. His first year the stats put Tyrod as top 10, but the past 2 years they showed him for exactly who he was - an inconsistent and below average NFL QB. Analytics and stats do have value and overall they paint an accurate picture. But there isn't a ton of data that suggests college stats translate to the pros so we can only work with the film that we have.
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6 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
Certainly a valid example. And interestingly enough, his QB coach his rookie year was Dirk Koetter. Not exactly a poor choice.
Yeah that's the example that scares me the most. That one and Kyle Boller (he scored a 27 on the Wonderlic, not particularly high but adequate). That being said we're talking about a very small sample size and picking any random 1st round QB would not you about a 33% chance of success. I have to just trust McDermott, Beane, and Daboll have a specific plan for Allen. One thing you can say about Gabbert is he had a bunch of injuries and coaching changes that might have hindered his development. If we develop Allen right he could be the one guy that beats the analytics.
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29 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
Has anyone you know of scored well on the Wonderlic and then failed due to the mental aspects of the game though? I mean like Fitz, for example, his issues aren't mental.
What about Gabbert? Great arm strength and physical stature, and scored higher on the Wonderlic than Allen did.
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1 hour ago, jo39416 said:
"Allen, though, is an inaccurate college passer whose key trait—throwing the ball a long way—is used very rarely among current NFL offenses."
This is a myth. Arm strength is not just about throwing the ball far. It's more about beating defenders in tight window throws. It isn't enough to have a strong arm obviously, but having an insanely talented arm like Allen's allows you to make throws all over the field that no one else in the league can make. I'm shocked that anyone who covers football for a living would say arm strength isn't an important trait. It just isn't the most important trait.
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4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
And both teams were very LB needy
The Bills ran a bunch mock drafts and defended their picks as if they were the team's GM. They know every team's needs going in so they can jump in front of anyone looking for the same player. IIRC we jumped ahead of Carolina last year to draft Jones.
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31 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Allen is not starting game 1. He's likely not starting a single game in 2018. Not because he sucks, but because there is no need to rush him. Fans might be itchy but McBeane don't care.
Beane was on WGR this morning and I got the opposite impression from him. He said that it isn't fair to call Allen raw, and that the way he's been characterized in the media is wrong. It sounded to me like he thinks Allen will start sooner rather than later. I mean they found the absolute cheapest backup QB they could and supposedly Allen was at the top of their board, so the plan all along has been to draft him and let him compete for the starting spot immediately. Kelly the Dog is exactly right. He will win the #2 spot right away and I would bet he wins the starting role before training camp is done.
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2 hours ago, Fadingpain said:
Here's a fact: we could have moved up and drafted the consensus worst QB prospect in the country, the one that no one in the business thinks is anything other than horrible...
...and a majority of this message board would support the pick and start to convince themselves that the player is going to be great.
These Allen discussions here are not about football or a football player. They are about human psychology.
Here's a fact: Allen could have been the best prospect in the draft and you still wouldn't like him because you can't get over dumb tweets he made when he was 15.
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4 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said:
Guys say stuff like this to make themselves look big. Most of the time you just come off looking small. This didn't need to be said.
Gettleman loves when the camera is on him. He sees himself as the face of the franchise in his own mind. The press conference where he argued that RBs should be drafted high was embarrassing. Poor Giants fans.
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Gettleman is an idiot. The Giants are in terrible hands.
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49 minutes ago, GG said:
Let's not forget that Palmer had Darnold & Allen in his clinic this year
This is a fair point and I haven't seen him talk about Darnold nearly as much. Maybe he really saw something in Josh Allen. If he ends up sucking that will make it look like Palmer has no clue what he's talking about, so in some ways he's staking his own reputation on Allen's development.
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28 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
I guess that's not including the racist/white supremacist leanings, am I right?
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2 hours ago, NewEraBills said:
It wasn't Rosen or they would have taken him. I don't think Mayfield was in their plan either. To me, Darnold was the only other top guy they were going to take.
FWIW Benjamin Albright said the Bills and Cardinals had Allen as their #1 QB. He's been pretty accurate throughout the whole draft process and was one of the first reporters to link us to Allen so I believe him. No way to know for sure of course.
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He specifically mentioned Robert Foster as a standout UDFA which makes me think he has a good chance of sticking around, especially with the Daboll connection.
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Doesn't sound like a process guy
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9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
ESB will be out of the NFL before long. He isn't competitive and isn't physical enough to survive in pro secondaries. He's just a name that people heard a lot so they assume he must be good.
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13 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:
People keep pointing to Josh Allen's success in the Senior Bowl game. The Senior Bowl game is a single event exhibition game. It's impossible to judge how good or bad any college player is in that game.
I know. But it's the only data point we have since his training with Palmer started. I wonder if the Bill's could just hire him to be his personal QB coach. I don't trust anyone on this staff to do it.
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I wanted to revisit this thread because I've spent the past couple days convincing myself to like the pick. What I've landed on is his rawness. I know people like to use that term for any QB that is a physical specimen without having any of the position's cerebral traits. I think the term is overused. When people said EJ Manuel was "raw" what they really meant is that he was bad. He had been focused on football since his freshman year of high school, and he went to a top football program where he had world class coaching for 4 years straight. That's not raw.
I believe Josh Allen actually is raw. He only played football a couple years in high school and it wasn't his only focus. He played in junior college and then in the Mountain West. He had no professional training at any point, it's all been his natural abilities and whatever his coaches at Wyoming could show him. He finally got a few months of professional coaching from Jordan Palmer and suddenly he showed improvement at the Senior Bowl. If he can fix the cerebral aspects of the position through coaching he will be great. His best throws are simply incredible, only a few people in the NFL have his natural talent.-
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Vegas over/under rookie QB starts
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I did not expect this. Vegas thinks Allen is the most likely rookie QB to start 10+ games this year. These odds are begging people to take the under on Allen which is a sign they know something.