HappyDays
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Bortles will be fine.
You're the 2nd person I've seen on here who hates Tyrod but thinks Bortles will rebound. It's gotta be about the weirdest set of opinions you could have.
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I'm right there with you Wayne. The draft is a crapshoot but every year the Bills waltz in like they know better than everyone else. What is the success rate of OL taken in the 3rd round, 33%? I can't imagine it's much higher. But I'm sure the Bills would tell you they are 75% sure in Dawkins. No matter how sure they think they are they don't really know. Dawkins could tear his ACL in training camp and there goes that idea. We needed to use all our picks this year IMO. I love the trade down but not as much because we lost the 3rd rounder anyways, to take a WR who had a great senior bowl but whose college production was possibly inflated by the system he played in. I mean I don't know maybe he turns into a great player but without the benefit of hindsight yet the moves look poor to me.
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This is a dumb thread but I do agree it was very foolish for the Bills to trade up. After looking through scouting reports on the 3 we took, they all have at least one major flaw or question. And no matter how sure the Bills (McDermott? Whaley? Pegula?) are about the players we took, plenty of NFL minds have been wrong about more surefire prospects than these guys. So now we have less picks and essentially need the 3 guys we took to all work out. There's no room to make a bad pick when you trade the later rounds away. It is what it is but these players have higher standards now. The smartest teams in the NFL almost never trade up.
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I don't feel too good about a first year NFL head coach trading up and making need picks before we have any sense of his abilities as a scout. Trading up is the mark of someone who thinks he's smarter than everyone else in the room, which is a poor mindset at the draft. Maybe Tre White changes our culture, or maybe he's already hit his ceiling after 4 years in college. Maybe Zay Jones becomes a great #2 for us, or maybe his college production was inflated by the system. Maybe Dawkins becomes our franchise RT, or maybe some scouts were right that he could only be a G in the NFL.
The more picks you make in the draft the better your chances of finding good players. It makes no sense to me you would throw away picks because you're just so sure about these guys. What if we have another Ragland scenario? That's the kind of thing you can't predict. It's supposedly a deep draft and we have a lo of holes so I would have preferred we let the board come to us.
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Yes, looking at NFL.com's player grades, there were a lot of receivers with about the same grade when Day 2 started with only a few each of LBs and safeties with similar grades. Being they were so enamored with Zay Jones, I hope he turns into a star and not Robert Woods 2.0.
Juju Smith-Shuster, ArDarius Stewart and Cooper Kupp had similar grades to Zay and they went 62nd, 79th and 69th, respectively.
I'll let you in on a little secret... NFL.com's grades mean nothing.
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Here we go again trading up all over the place. It's absolutely nuts that he does the same thing year after year like he just doesn't learn.
Oh well I hope the players are worth it but sheesh. It's a deep draft and we're missing out on more players. No way McDermott is running this.
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Meh not really happy about the trade up but it is what it is. Hope he ends up worth it, I thought Whaley had learned by now there is no guarantee of anything and trading up loses out on players like Dak Prescott.
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Man Leroi right again
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Your math is off. You said QB's taken top ten have a 8/24 chance for success. That is 1 out of 3. So you said the other side is 6/7, which is 85%. No. The other side of 33% is 66%. Then you use wrong percentage as your opening header.
Maybe change that to using a top ten pick on a QB in the top ten has a 33% chance of very high success. I like those odds. Give me QB at ten and if that isn't a franchise guy I take another shot the next year with a top ten.
Thanks for providing a great argument for using a high top ten pick on the QB position.
Now remove anyone taken at 1 or 2
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Very good chance we move up today to select; Zay Jones. WR Eastern Carolina
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I hope we don't trade up but I'd be fine with the pick itself
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I would take Kelly too. I won't dislike any QB pick from here until the end of the draft except if we take Kizer or Webb. I've come around to Peterman tonight if we decide to go that route.Pretty much this ^ If they though Mahomes or Watson were franchise they would have drafted them at 10. They did 100% what I wanted them to do if they thought those 2 were not the answer at QB.
I still would like them to swing on Chad Kelly very late this draft.
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A combined 180 pages on Pat Mahomes and Mike Gillislee. Only in Buffalo.
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They got the 7th best CB according to many mocks. Congrats
Missed out on Lattimore, Howard, Davis, the top OL in the draft...
Oh my god we didn't do what the mock drafts said??? Fire everyone.
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Winfield 99', Clements 01', Whitner 06', McKelvin 08', Gilmore 12' - We've seen this movie before.
So we should skip out on the top CB on our board because of a player we took in 99? That makes no sense. Are you saying we lose historically because we took a few 1st round CBs? Do other teams pick less CBs than us in that same time span? This complaint is so out of context it is meaningless.
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Correct. Dropped down way too far and missed out on pro bowl quality players to get an undersized corner that was projected to go where you got him. The way the draft was playing out the 10th pick was more valuable than what they got in return because lots of top players were dropping. Lots of talent between 10-25 so to drop all the way to 27 was very unfortunate
You know all this the day after the draft? What did you think of the Darby pick when it happened?
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The Bucs added OJ Howard to Evans and DeSean Jackson
The Bengals added John Ross to AJ Green and Tyler Eifert
The Giants added Evan Engram to ODB, Brandon Marshall, Sterling Shepard
The Chargers added Mike Williams to Keenan Allen, Hunter Henry, Travis Benjamin
Our 3 WR - 1 TE sets include Philly Brown, Andre Holmes and Charles Clay
But hey, Tyrod can't throw anyway, so we don't need WRs.
Some of the geniuses here would tell you "receivers don't matter" or "QB makes the receivers" but obviously most teams don't agree.
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This morning Jeremy White (I think, can't be bothered to learn all those chuckleheads' names) was going through each game on the Bills schedule next year, and whining about every potential win because it would lower our draft pick. Needless to say I turned it off. Awful draft coverage.
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My dark horse candidate is Nathan Peterman. We haven't heard anything connecting him to the Bills which makes me think it's actually more likely than people think.
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We need offensive talent. The Bucs have given Jameis Winston Mike Evans, Desean Jackson, and now OJ Howard. We don't even know if our #1 will be capable of playing all year.
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You can't complain the Bills didn't take a QB yesterday in what was known to be a weak class, and then also complain that next year's class could end up being Week. Be honest with yourself, no matter what the experts are saying you'll convince yourself that a QB next year is worthy of a 1st round pick.
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I would make that trade all day long. Cousins has everything you need in a QB and Washington would be crazy to even make that trade....unless they think they are on the verge of 2-14 without him
I love all you people that think you're better at evaluating QBs than the Bills, then you suggest trading multiple 1st round picks for freaking Kirk Cousins. Let me guess, total yards is your favorite stat?
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Wrong, Bills fans want to feel like Chiefs fans today.
That their team admitted they will never win anything unless they get a QB. They took the chance to get a QB.
Instead we take a corner to fill a hole. That's great and logical, but nothing changes with the Bills today.
Should they take a QB in the 1st every year until they get it? And if not then why this year, when they had to spend an extra 1st round pick and the prospects all have numerous flaws that may be unfixable in the NFL? Taking a QB in the 1st is not automatically a good move. We should know that.
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Gee I'd love to have some of that stuff you are smoking....
How bout... TT + Both 2018 1st rd picks and our 2019 1st for Cousins... That's one that they might think about...
Looks like you already have been smoking plenty. Oh my god you are going to criticize the Bills and THIS is your intelligent plan? This is why fans don't run the NFL.
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If you can't see the difference between Brees, Rivers and Tyrod, I don't know what to tell you.
I knew you would come back with this exact response, because you don't understand the point.
Just when I think the Bills finally got smart...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I'm not a negative nelly, I just wish the Bills were smarter with their picks. The less you have the less room there is for error. If McDermott really is running this draft that is especially concerning to me. He's a coach, not a scout. He has no background in college talent evaluation. So why should we believe he knows better than everyone else in the room, that this player is worth 2 picks while other teams haven't spent 1 pick on him yet? I like the players picked, no crazy reaches and they fill needs, but the truth is no one knows how they will fare in the NFL.