HappyDays
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13 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:
He lost me when he says Allen struggles with back shoulder placement. I think I only saw one throw that he missed throwing back shoulder.
Agreed, I'm not sure where he came up with that. He struggled with short throws, but I thought the back shoulder was one of his best throws.
4 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:This guy has always taken issue with Josh. He's one of those guys who will try at all costs to convince everyone that Josh isn't good. It will continue... As soon as I see "The Draft Network," I know it'll be this garbage.
A good litmus test for his credibility will be his article on Lamar Jackson. If I remember correctly he thought Jackson was worthy of the #1 overall pick. I'm curious to see what he thinks of him now.
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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/rookie-qb-review--josh-allen
A few snippets:
QuoteBad news first: He wasn't very good. But that's okay! I can't emphasize this enough, Bills Mafia: rookie quarterbacks are supposed to be bad. Struggle is to be expected in Year 1. Allen finished the season with a 10:12 TD:INT ratio, just over 6 yards/attempt, an 8.0 sack rate, and 52.8% completion percentage. All of that is really not very good -- but he also had great numbers as a runner and improved statistically later in the season, so there's reason to be excited.
And there's the good news: He was better than I expected, given his product at Wyoming. Allen showed more nuanced placement on downfield throws than I think he did with the Cowboys, which is a huge boon given how the offense is structured around him. He created a ton with his legs, which was not featured as heavily in Wyoming and could even get more offensive intention in Year 2.
QuoteThis is the first complaint with Allen, and it always has been. His issues with inaccuracy are well-documented, and we'll touch on them later, but the biggest issue with Allen has always been his processing speed and risk management. A cool-headed quarterback, even with minimal NFL experience, should feel that he has space and time to adjust his set point, align his feet, and throw this ball downfield. Allen bails, tucks, and limits his offense with this run.
QuoteBy the end of the season, the offense simply did not rely on short throws at all, and that's because Allen's most egregious inaccuracy issues flare up in the quick game, when he doesn't build a throwing base and attempts to drive footballs into wide-open windows exclusively with arm strength.
QuoteNow, inaccuracy doesn't just vanish. Players don't just become more accurate -- at least, not with such a significant jump that we should expect Allen to, at any point in his career, become a suddenly accurate quarterback. He's good at hitting downfield throws when he can see it and sling it, though he still struggles with backshoulder placement; he can hit some intermediate crossers and then inexplicably miss the next one. The name of the game isn't making Allen more accurate -- it's modeling the offense around the throws that he
can hit accurately, and hoping that passing game will be sustainable.
Allen's footwork can get better. But he'll probably continue to miss easy, short throws for the rest of his career.QuoteI think the Bills should again prove a feisty team this year, and while I don't expect a record above .500, I think 6-10 and 7-9 are within range, and they have the chances to take some good teams down to the wire.
We circle back to the question: can you build a functional offense around Allen in the NFL? I think yes, if you use him intentionally as a dual-threat player, don't mess around with a short game, and have enough wide receiver talent to basically play Madden on an NFL field.QuoteThere's a better chance that Allen becomes a tenable NFL starter now than there was this time last year -- he landed in a good spot and showed growth in Year 1. But we're still far out from the mark, and development isn't linear. I have hope, but only a flicker.
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12 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I mean we saw Matt Patricia and his Lions come in and really bring it against the Bills last season when that didn't appear to be coming.
Who was it that said you've forgotten more football than other people have learned? I'm beginning to think they were right.
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I hate the discussion about "if" the Bills go 6-10. I think everyone here agrees anything under 9-7 will be a disappointment. Unless Allen gets injured, if they go 6-10 the process has failed.
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I'm so confused about this contract. Why are they doing this now?
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31 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
I think to this point it's more than ok to be critical of these guys.
Eh I really don't think so yet. This year, absolutely. They went for a full rebuild. It's crazy that we've won as many games as we have. But it's year 3 and the team is full of their guys. If they don't show improvement fans have a right to be upset.
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7 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
He could have watched tapes of Watson playing against a GREAT Alabama teams in the Championship Games and listed to Dabo Swinney talk about him.
Selecting a franchise QB is a career altering decision. Teams are scouting these QBs over the course of a year, sometimes even longer. It isn't something you decide on over a 3 month period when your scouting department isn't even set. That's why I thought a total rebuild made sense. We geared up to take our franchise QB with a full season to prepare for that decision. No matter what McDermott might have thought of Watson and Mahomes, and I'm guessing he didn't have much of an opinion on either, it was not a realistic option at that point. This can all be traced back to the Pegulas hiring Rex Ryan. That hire set the franchise back a minimum of 3 years.
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10 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
K-9, can anybody possibly defend passing on 2 highly skilled and accomplished quarterbacks and drafting a first round corner? The team was starving for a QB. And it doesn't matter that White is "good." So was Gilmore but we had no quarterback!!!
Bill what information were they going to use to draft a QB? GMs don't just read scouting reports like us fans do. They have to meet with the prospect. They have to interview college coaches, high school coaches, people that know him personally. McDermott took over 3 months before that draft. How was he ever going to draft a QB in the 1st round with no information to go off of? It was never going to happen.
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10 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
So are claiming that Coach McD liked when he said he used information from Whaley's scouts and he either took Carolina's scouting reports or Beane fed him while he was assistant GM in Carolina?
No doubt in my mind. Look at the list of Panthers pre-draft visits from 2017:
https://panthergf.wordpress.com/2017/02/28/2017-draft-prospect-visit-workout-meeting-list/amp/
Tre'Davious White
Dion Dawkins
Tanner Vallejo
Zay Jones
Notably absent from that list is top QBs. Why would Carolona have scouted QBs? Beane and McDermott had no information to go off of.
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2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
You can't use that as an excuse to pass on Mahomes and Watson after the fact
I mean, of course you can. Beane and the Panthers weren't scouting QBs. You wanted McDermott to draft a QB in a QB class they hadn't scouted? That's nonsense.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
Well we could have simply not taken up (or more accurately renegotiated and then taken up which is what we actually did) Tyrod's option in 2017 and selected Watson or Mahomes that year.
Blame Pegula if you want. We didn't hire the next GM until after that draft. So who picks the QB, the defensive coach coming from a team that wasn't scouting QBs? There was no chance we were taking a QB that year. They certainly weren't going to go off of the scouting done by the lame duck GM and scouting staff. They had to cobble that draft together from Carolina's draft board. It's a miracle it went as well as it did. The eye was always on 2018 for drafting a QB, and if Allen turns out to be good the first 2 years won't mean a thing.
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I hope the Bills don't plan on playing Zay more than Foster. That would be a big mistake.
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Not entirely related, but:
Yeah, they'll definitely figure something out.
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12 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:
I put Zay above Foster (which is, essentially what makes him a lock). I see Foster as a dynamic talent, but limited in his role on offense.
I think that's crazy. You could see on the tape in the latter half of the season that teams were game planning to stop Foster. Safeties were shadowing him down field. I didn't ever see that kind of attention given to Zay. Foster is a threat to score a TD on every single play. Zay is a decent route runner but he has zero ability to make plays happen all on his own. Foster had his faults, especially early on, but his skill set is a nightmare to defend. I'll take the "limited" dynamic talent over the JAG with a full route tree.
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25 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
It’s crazy to say how good they will be at this point.
Why is it "crazy" to watch two players play, evaluate the context and progress, and make predictions about who will end up better?
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4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
but are ready to call Jackson a bust after a season which he played on the playoffs?
Yeah, he played. Did you watch the game?
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55 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:
A typical response from most on this board. You clearly missed the point, but that's ok, you usually do!
What was the point? That I'm not allowed to feel good about the team in May? This forum is filled with people that are addicted to football. I wouldn't go around my office asking people why they aren't paying attention to OTAs - I'd be the crazy person in that scenario. But by the same token I don't know why there's a whole genre of posters who makes it their duty to inform this group of crazy Bills fans that we're getting too crazy. No thanks. I'll get excited right now.
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1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:
It is day 5 of OTA's.
Yes, it's May. If you're not interested in any football between OTAs and preseason, the forum will still be here in September.
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This would have been a top 5 catch for the Bills last year.
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1 hour ago, Putin said:
Should we wait till at least the pads come on before we give up on him ?
I don’t remember R Foster lighting it up in OTA’s last year ,
True but Foster came in promising speed and separation. He had faults but he delivered on that promise. Williams comes in promising contested catch ability and he's dropping the ball, literally. Not a good start for someone that was already fighting an uphill battle.
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50 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I think we had a QB running with the 3’s last off season, it’s his offense now
Not that Williams is the same sitch, but early days, early days
No kidding. But right now I would consider Duke Williams a longshot to make the roster, and this thread is pumping him up as Jones's replacement. That isn't looking even remotely possible right now. I'm actually kind of fascinated by this WR group. Brown, Foster, and Jones could all conceivably start on the outside but I can't see us running a bunch of 4 WR sets. I guess there will be a heavy rotation there.
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Again, a good sign from OTAs that Zay has the inside track:
Jones, Brown and McCloud seemed like receivers that had the most reps with the first team in practice this week after Foster was featured a lot last week. Foster still had a few reps and Andre Roberts was sprinkled in as well. Jones looked like the arguable class of the group. His quickness and route running led to a highlight-reel touchdown catch in a red zone drill. Allen split some defenders and Jones made a nice grab before easily trotting into the end zone. Jones as so excited he ran over to Bills general manager Brandon Beane, who was standing in the back of the end zone, for a quick celebratory hug. Fan favorite Duke Williams struggled hanging on to the ball throughout practice. He had a few drops and had trouble when Johnson was on him in coverage.
I'm happy to hear Jones looks improved this offseason. We might want to give up on the Duke Williams dream. He's struggling to catch the ball and is stuck with the 3rd team.
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20 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
I thought Daboll did some excellent scheming last year, but the talent level was so poor that it was hard to detect.
I agree, and what Daboll did in the latter part of the year was nothing short of miraculous. We basically played like a league average offense after the bye week. Considering the offensive line, the rookie QB still learning on the job, and the mediocre pass catching group that's impressive. Obviously there has to be improvement this year but I'm optimistic about Daboll. I thought we had a real NFL scheme that should have been more successful than it was.
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John Warrow’s High Praise For Beane & McDermott Regime
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by HappyDays
Are you aware that every member of the Bills organization from just 5 years ago has been replaced? Literally to a man it is an entirely different organization. The only commonality is the name of the team. This is just lazy analysis. Next time throw in a reference to Russ Brandon for the cherry on top.