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1 minute ago, joesixpack said:
Obviously, he never watched Tyrod Taylor quarterback a football team.
He might have watched him in 2015 and 2016, when the Bills scored more than 22 points per game.
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29 minutes ago, JohnC said:
I was skewered by many here when I said that Peterman would be on the roster this year. I still believe that his value in the long run will be as a backup. A Frank Reich type of qb with a backup role.
28 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:I think it is entirely possible we carry 3 qbs.
At this point it's silly to shoot anything down. For all we know Peterman has been on a strict diet of Popeye's spinach and will have more velocity this year. It's entirely possible that he beats McCarron outright for the #2 spot. The Bills are keeping him around for a reason so it can't be a foregone conclusion that he won't make the team. I know most teams only carry 2 QBs but if there's any team that should carry 3 QBs it's us. There's too many question marks there to give that spot to a special teamer IMO.
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18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
Realistically and honestly he isn’t as raw as EJ or even a Jared Goff
Goff never took a snap under center and played in the most gimmicky offense ever created. Before him no air raid QB has worked out.
EJ was in a FSU offense which cut the field in half for him and only asked him to make half field reads. He was also surrounded by NFL talent
Allen played under center over 40%. Made line calls and audibles at the LoS. Well versed in play action under center and ran an NFL style offense with NFL reads
If he looks like the best QB in camp you need to give it to him
Yeah I guess that's what Beane is talking about. He's used to running a whole field pro style offense. And his throwing motion is already a finished product. They must think that his footwork is his biggest problem and that it is fixable.
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40 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:
Also, the more I look into Allen the more I realize he isn't a finished product. I truly believe that he has not been playing QB long enough nor extensively enough to have cemented bad habits. When people refer to previous QBs saying that they will revert to bad habits "once bullets fly" are typically correct. However, in Josh's case I don't think he has been playing long enough to have formed too many "bad" long term habits.
33 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:Josh’s mechanics are already 10x better than they were in 2016.
They have been on a steady incline for a while now... they are not as poor as Mahomes footwork and he has a lot of experience under center
24 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:Essentially, the problem Cover1 describes is that Allen hasn't learned the steps to the dance. Sometimes he's doing the cha-cha when he's supposed to be waltzing. That's a different problem, and an easier problem to correct than being in category 1. Any athlete can learn the dance steps. In fact, teams spend a lot of time teaching that. On most NFL passing plays, the ball is released quickly, and QBs are taught to take precise steps preliminary to the pass. THey're taught which foot takes the first step, how far, etc. Step, step, step, pass. It's all choreographed. Allen can learn that.
Good posts. This is what's keeping me hopeful about him. But then I hear Beane say that Allen isn't raw and I wonder what their plan is.
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This is a great article about Edmunds and his incredibly high ceiling. It has a lot of stills from his college film.
What makes Edmunds special is he has every bit the mobility and range of those smaller linebackers in a bigger package. As one NFC regional scout told NFL.com's Lance Zierlein: "Good luck with your player comp on this one. They don't come like him. I don't think there has ever been a linebacker that has had his size and speed. You're better off comping him with a basketball player."-
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Thanks for posting. I don't know how much I should trust inside info that comes from Rodak, but if true it's pretty interesting that McDermott likes Peterman. He might be more in the conversation for starter than a lot of people think. I don't know what kind of offense we plan on building but I think McCarron/Peterman would run a very different offense from what Allen would run. So we might get a hint as to who the planned starter is depending on the offense we see in training camp and preseason.
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25 minutes ago, BillsFan3434 said:
I know I'm going to come off as a negative-Nelly, and I obviously wish Allen all the good fortune in the world and I hope he leads us to 20 super bowls, but a severely dislike taking quarterbacks with "a high upside but need some work". Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more quarterbacks than not don't fix the issues and go right back to what they know and their athleticism / second nature when the pocket starts to break down, which this is the NFL so that happens 80% of the time.
I tend to agree with this, and it's what worries me about starting Allen too early. I know we're all excited to see the shiny new toy in action but muscle memory gets harder and harder to erase the longer it is practiced. Allen is way too inconsistent with his footwork to see real NFL action right away. I get that he made strides between the end of the season and the Senior Bowl but he wouldn't be the first QB to regress after a couple months of perceived improvement.
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https://www.cover1.net/balancing-josh-allen/
My notes probably resemble a lot of your notes on Allen, because when quarterbacks struggle with accuracy, you hear about footwork. Teams will try to try and feed you the company line, that ____ has to clean up his footwork and he will be fine. So it wasn’t surprising to hear that line during his introductory press conference.
Even though Allen explains footwork and what it means to a QB’s throwing motion pretty well, the average fan may not understand it. So I want to try and show you what bad footwork looks like, how sloppy footwork will throw off the entire sequencing of a throwing motion, and how it can lead to an inaccurate throw. If you can understand those mechanics, maybe you can empathize with why the Bills took a shot on the big arm from Firebaugh.-
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1 hour ago, eball said:
I guess it all depends upon the "serious mechanical issues" diagnosis. I think that is entirely overblown with Allen. The bottom line is more often than not talent wins out. Blake Bortles and Blaine Gabbert can't hold a candle to Allen's talent.
I've watched a lot of film on Allen and personally I see too many throws off his back foot and reacting to pressure that isn't there. He has tremendous arm talent, no denying that, but his inconsistent mechanics and pocket presence will sink him if they don't get cleaned up. I just don't think that will happen if he's forced to start early. Of course I'm not watching him at every practice and seeing him develop in the film room, so I'll trust their decision until I'm given a reason not to.
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2 hours ago, JohnC said:
How do you know the Bills aren't going to do the same thing as the Browns are by starting the veteran? I see McCarron being the starter.
Maybe. But I think they're leaning more towards Allen. Beane has said he doesn't think Allen is raw, and yesterday McDermott said he believes in "learning on the job" when asked about him. They didn't try signing any serious free agent QBs who could conceivably start for a whole year (compared to the Jets and Browns and even Cardinals who have better bridge options in place). Plus I tend to trust Vegas and they have Allen as the most likely rookie QB to start 10+ games this year. I think McDermott's philosophy is to start Allen now and let him figure it out as he goes. I don't necessarily agree with that but as with all things on Allen I'm waiting to see how it goes before passing judgment.
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Eh I get it. Mayfield comes from a spread offense and needs to work on his footwork. They don't need to rush him into the starting spot, they can afford to spend at least half a season developing him. The Browns aren't good yet. They're paying Tyrod $16 million to be a capable bridge starter. I kind of wish we would do a similar thing with Allen.
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3 hours ago, eball said:
But to Doc's point, there is no evidence to suggest either starting or sitting a 1st round QB is more likely to result in either a boom or bust.
That's because every QB's situation is different. But I bet if you looked at the ones that came into the league with serious mechanical issues, you would find that sitting them was beneficial more often than not. Too many people on this board are dismissing Allen's accuracy issues as "just" his footwork, acting like it's a simple fix. The hardest thing in the world to change is muscle memory. If we throw him into an NFL game before his muscle memory is fixed I don't think he'll ever unlearn it.
I think of Blake Bortles who had one promising season before reverting back to his old bad habits. The Jaguars had him playing in week 3 of his rookie season. He didn't have time to develop and now he might be ruined. Or Blaine Gabbert, another Jaguars QB forced into the starting role too early. He was sacked 40 times his rookie year, got injured in his 2nd, and never recovered. I don't know if their careers would have gone differently if they'd been given time, Mahomes will be a good test on this theory, but I personally think it would have made a difference. Allen struggles with footwork and he struggles with handling pressure. That's a recipe for disaster if we start him early. -
If I had to rely on Blake Bortles to win me games, I'd lash out too.
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4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I said it was going to take awhile for me to warm up on Allen and the arrow is already starting to point in that direction.
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10 minutes ago, TheBeane said:
Just looked it up... Looks like he was a QB coach for the Jets in 2007 - 2008. Jets during those years had Chad Pennington, Kellen Clemens and Brett Favre.
If you want to be a journalist all you had to say was "He was a QB coach for Brett Favre"
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Does Daboll have any history as a QB coach? Because apparently he'll be taking the reins on that.
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9 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:
I made up my mind that he is innocent until proven guilty, which is how it works...
There is no "presumption of innocence" outside of the court system. Bill Cosby has only been found legally guilty of one sexual assault, but I personally am quite sure he is guilty of more than that. And I don't mind saying it whether or not he ever faces other charges. We hold the government to a higher standard than we hold ourselves, and for good reason. The burden required to throw someone in jail should be incredibly high, as opposed to the burden we use to make personal judgments of character.
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This is a bad story because they didn't consult with the alleged victim. They say right in the article "The alleged victim also did not respond to attempts by the News to contact her." Maybe she didn't want to be reminded or have the story spread around 20 years after the fact? And no one who was involved can remember the case. They should have left it alone.
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3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
I think it would be absolutely cray cray to get rid of the only veteran QB experience you have on the team. AJM is not making that much money for a QB to begin with
Normally I'd agree but the Bills didn't seek out any particular QB. They waited until every other team had signed someone and then they signed the last QB standing. So I don't think they care, they just need someone capable that can maybe start a few games at the beginning of the season. Like I said it's a small chance because it's dependent on Peterman beating out McCarron, but if he does I don't see why they'd keep McCarron around.
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A big surprise I could see happening is McCarron. I wouldn't say it's likely, maybe just a 20% chance, but if Peterman looks as good or better we don't need to pay his salary.
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The dog was probably an LSU fan and deserved it
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35 minutes ago, Yeezus said:
how is drafting a project doing the right thing?
When all other 1st round QB's are starting and winning a few games for their team by week 6 and Allen is still on the bench b/c he can't read an NFL defense it means we drafted the wrong QB.
Wow I guess RGIII was the best draft pick in 2012 in that case.
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Wasn't sure where else to post this:
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36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I edited the title in response to your gracious and courteous contributory remarks. Thank you.
Commentary and interviews together represent all the possible content there could be on Josh Allen. So it seems for no reason the site is migrating towards a one-thread-fits-all format, where each player will have a singular giant thread. It doesn't take too many seconds of thought to realize why that is a poor idea. Some aimless threads could use to be merged with others, but individual articles, videos, etc. are worthy of their own thread. Just my humble opinion. I didn't realize this was a problem before?
Mike Clay (ESPN) Score Projections Has the Bills Favored in Just Two Games
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Kizer threw 22 picks last year. Addition by subtraction. Tyrod, Gordon, Landey, and Chubb should be huge improvements. Of course it is Cleveland so I wouldn't make assumptions about it yet.