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None of the things you mentioned as problems, prevented Taylor from finding Woods in the back of the end zone to win the Seahawks game.
If Tyrod had scored a TD on that play we would have still been out of the playoffs and also possibly unable to make the trade down with Kansas City. So not only is your point dumb, it's really really dumb.
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Is anyone here concerned that the President asked the FBI director for loyalty at a private dinner, and then this morning threatened him with tapes of their conversations? Or are we hand waving this away with some reference to something a Democrat did in 2009?
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Andy Reid disagree with you. I'll go with him on Mahomes' mechanics.
OMG you're back to saying Andy Reid does no wrong. Ok you're talking in circles now. This was fun. I for one am hoping the Bills give their mobile veteran QB 4 seasons before drafting anyone in the 1st round since that's what Reid would do.
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I see Mahomes as a Derek Carr type prospect who would be discounted by pundits for the wrong reasons.
This comparison continues to be way off. The worst you could have said about Carr's mechanics was that they got spotty under pressure. Mahomes doesn't have mechanics, they need to be totally rebuilt at the NFL level. It's the same problem Blake Bortles had and now we see those problems are preventing him from taking the next step. It is very unlikely at this point that his mechanics and footwork will ever be fixed. He's a massive project.
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And how did he do it? He basically couldn't beat them with his arm but made some incredible runs. Unfortunately on one of them he got injured and was no longer available the next two games which the Bills then lost.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eWID8spG3P4
This looks like "beating them with his arm" to me. I know you're already thinking about how to move the goalposts. Whatever man.
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Alex Smith won 41 games as a starter for Andy Reid. Tyrod has yet to win more than 7 games. Sorry, take this Tyrod stuff to Transpants thread.
QB winz is my favorite stat. I guess over the last 4 years Alex Smith has been a superior QB to Drew Brees too. If Andy Reid is such a QB guru he should have known that there were better QBs than Alex Smith availble. You love to harp on Derek Carr and how everyone missed him, well Reid missed him too. How about Dak Prescott last year. A real genius should have seen that coming. You can like Mahomes, just stop hiding behind this BS argument about how Andy Reid can do no wrong and he is 3 steps ahead of the hapless Bills.
Again - in Smith's second year there the Chiefs went 9-7 and missed the playoffs. Be honest, if we go 9-7 this year and Tyrod has identical stats as what Smith had 2 years ago (3,265 yards and 18 TDs), and then we DON'T take a QB next year, you would rip into McDermott and the whole front office. Yet that is exactly what your guru Andy Reid did.
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Why did a Quarterback Magician like Andy Reid pass on Derek Carr in 2014 when all he had was the ultimate check-down QB, Alex Smith?
Andy Reid gave Alex Smith 4 seasons. Since he is a QB guru we should give Tyrod another 2 seasons before we think about bringing in another QB.
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Which one? This is sad. Why are some people so full of hate and anger? These are new times, new owner, new staff. Is one guy in the front office worth this angst? We have some seriously disturbed people to be this pissed off in May after a reportedly great draft. Get a life. They didn't sabotage your dialysis machine.
I was just joking around. I try to not take things too seriously here. And don't insult my dialysis machine.
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I was never on BBMB always only on two bills drive
It was destiny that we'd all end up together.
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Is this what BBMB was like?
Don't blame this on us, he's one of yours
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So you'd be ambivalent as to whether you'd want Taylor or Rodgers in that scenario.
And that is why your statistical analysis is simply lacking.
It's a dumb question to begin with. Here I'll have a turn. It's a critical 3rd and 10 in a playoff game. The DE gets by practically unblocked and is gunning for your QB. Who would you rather have on the field, Tyrod Taylor or Aaron Rodgers?
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Did you hear Obama thinks there are 57 states?
Did you hear Joe Biden thinks "jobs" is a three-letter word?
Did you hear Benghazi was caused by a Youtube video?
We can do this all day. Whomever is in charge is going to say stupid crap, and it's possible Trump may set new records, but I really wish the collective media would just keep its eye on the ball and stop creating new headlines for clickbait.
Trump is the dumbest president the country has ever had. I feel very confident saying that. If he flubbed up once and used "priming the pump" incorrecrly or whatever, no big deal. But today economists across the internet are laughing at him. That wasn't just a gaffe, it was an 11th grader unprepared for his economics exam trying to make up an answer on the spot. Sadly it doesn't surprise me anymore. I don't know if anything would at this point.
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I don't recall your avatar playing for the Buffalo Bills.
You don't remember the "All in the Hips" team of 95?
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This is a Beane thread. If you want to discuss Mahomes there is another thread.
This is a Bills forum yet you still have a Chiefs backup as your avatar
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Based upon your review of his career as a head coach? Jesus, man.
Based upon the fact McDermott isn't in love with Pat Mahomes. This month long obsession/freak out was inevitable no matter what we did.
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Alex Smith was traded for 2 high picks. He wasn't scraps.
Wow Andy Reid traded 2 high picks for Alex Smith and didn't bring in meaningful competition for 4 seasons. He is obviously a QB guru.
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I feel like you are trying to pull me into a Transplant thread. The answer is Tyrod is on his way to greatness, right?
LOL this is your last resort. When facts stop supporting your argument you jump right to the sarcasm. "Oh well I guess Tyrod must be the 2nd coming of Tom Brady then!!" No dude, no one is saying that. We're saying he's a serviceable starter in a league where serviceable starters are hard to come by. AND he's only been a starter for 2 years which means there is upside for him to improve. Alex Smith has been a starter for a decade!
The answer is wait and see what happens and for the love of God stop obsessing over Mahomes. Smarter people than you have been wrong about surer prospects than him.
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Not even close. Tyrod Taylor is not Alex Smith and never had his success. If Tyrod was leading us to the playoffs every year then you could make your case. But he is a QB that falls apart in big moments and in the 4th quarter where games are won.
Alex Smith had a much better defense and MUCH better coaching. This is your problem, you can't see that the rest of the team matters too. AND they don't have to worry about the Patriots being in their division. You could switch Alex Smith out with Tyrod Taylor and not see a record difference on either side, I stand by that.
Again - Andy Reid followed the exact strategy we're doing right now.
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Do you know what the Chiefs record was? 41 wins and 20 losses when Alex Smith started. Tyrod has yet to win more than 7 games in one season. Wake me up when he does that.
This is exactly my point. The Chiefs win with Alex Smith because they have a better overall roster and coaching. Do you honestly think switching out Alex Smith and Tyrod makes a huge difference to that record?
In Smith's 2nd year in Kansas City, the Chiefs went 9-7 and missed the playoffs. You're telling me you wouldn't have been calling for a 1st round QB the next year and to get rid of Alex Smith? Well Andy Reid didn't. Like I said and you are continuing to ignore this point, we are ahead of their schedule.
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Sure, if you have the 2001 Ravens or the 85 Bears. But if you have teams that great why not also get a QB better than Tyrod Taylor? I don't get why you are so obsessed with other team's backups. And if Mcdermott and Beane think they are about to create the 85 Bears in 2 years then they will be packing their stuff. The NFL has changed and teams need to adapt. Trying to win without a very good QB is going to a fight with both arms tied behind your back.
The great infallible Andy Reid stuck with Alex Smith for 4 seasons before looking elsewhere in the draft. The Bills drafted more QBs in that time frame than he did. It's because the coaches have a better opinion of the QBs than you do and would rather try to win with what they have instead of going through unnecessary growing pains if they can avoid it. It's pretty obvious to me that this is Tyrod's last chance to show the Bills what he is - we didn't collect an additional 1st round pick for nothing. Like I said we're ahead of the Chiefs schedule by a year. It's actually such a similar situation to theirs I'm surprised I hadn't thought of it before.
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I don't get this.
Winning a Super Bowl is hard no matter who your QB is. A QB of Tyrod's caliber can win a Super Bowl, it's been done. The Bills haven't had a QB of that caliber since Doug Flutie. Of course I'd prefer a better QB that makes our chances better. But I also don't want to move on from the best chance we had.
You can give the Chiefs credit but they're doing the exact same strategy that I'm asking for. They gave Alex Smith 4 seasons! And they didn't just cut him either, they drafted his hopeful replacement while keeping him on the roster. So it's not right to say the Chiefs are way ahead of the Bills or whatever. They tried building a good defense and team around Alex Smith and it didn't work out, so now after 4 (!) seasons they draft a project that no one expects to start this season. How is that any different from what the Bills are doing right now? If we draft a QB in the 1st round next year we'll actually be ahead of their schedule.
Teams don't want to lose their best chance of winning, they want to keep that option while still trying to improve.
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Win what? We have a QB that if everything falls into place perfectly could sneak into the playoffs. That's a Ryan Fitzpatrick type. If we hitch our wagon to another team's backup QB for the next 2 years I believe we will be hiring a new coach and GM in 2019.
We would have "snuck into the playoffs" last year if our defense hadn't given up 200 rushing yards in 3 separate games. The team's ceiling with Tyrod at QB is much higher than you give it credit for. Tyrod + Seahawks defense in 2013 = Super Bowl win. Sure I'd prefer a QB like Brady or Rodgers but Tyrod isn't bad at all if your goal is to win a Super Bowl. Keep on building the team with 1st round talent and drafting QBs in round 2 or later. We'll be fine if the coaches have a clue.
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This has about as much chance of happening as me becoming president of the USA. Mahomes was the best QB in the draft. not only that he was the best player in this draft. he is the next Rogers or Farve. if you paid attention to what the KC chiefs GM said about Mahomes, he said he was a once in a life time talent. His talent does not come around very often. then he goes on to say the Chiefs are set at QB for the next 12 years. So keep drinking the cool aid from a team that has no idea what there doing. we would rather draft position players then draft a QB. The Bills screwed the pooch on this one and those fans that supported trading out of the 10 spot will have to live with that the rest of there posting careers on Two Bills Drive.
Posts like this are why I keep coming back here
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Mahomes can spit farther than Peterman can throw. Lets draw a line between optimism and delusion shall we?
I get it that fans have these opinions, the weirder thing is that GMs who get paid millions of dollars also have these opinions. Arm strength is the least important trait when predicting the jump from college to the NFL. It's a plus on top of other factors, but it doesn't replace them. Bad foortwork and bad mechanics combined with arm strength equals a 1st round bust.
What if Peterman is better than Mahomes??
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LOL the receiver was at least 2 steps in front of the CB. That wasn't a particularly impressive play at all. Is that really the kind of play that makes you think Mahomes is going to be a star? That's the most impressive throw you could pull from that video?