[Interesting Take From QB Guru on Allen]

Why do all the Allen supporters talk about completion percentage? They talk about it more than anyone. Do they realize people who don't like Allen have watched a lot of tape on him too?

[Down to Allen or Mayfield at 1]

43 minutes ago, GG said:

 

If it's not Darnold, it will suck for Bills.

 

It has to be Darnold or Allen. If they pick one of those two we'll have one of the top 3. If not all bets are off with what the Giants will do.

[Beane giving sense that a trade prior to draft unlikely, all depends on who goes #1]

42 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

I think this is big news actually. By admitting they are not trading up prior to the draft means a move to pick 2 is unlikely. We have heard from many sources that Giants won't trade all the way back to 12 and miss out on the top guys. I always thought we would have to move up to pick 4-7 prior to the Giants being on the clock for our trade offer to be attractive to them. I think they will be picking a player at 2. They could accept our trade then trade back up but that is risky if the other team backs out so it seems highly unlikely

 

I think people overstate the difficulty of executing a 3-team trade in the moment. We probably have several blueprints in place already. Call both teams up, confirm it's a go, and execute the trade with plenty of time left on the clock.

[Beane giving sense that a trade prior to draft unlikely, all depends on who goes #1]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

I'd love it.   I think it's impossible.   As I've said, I don't think the Giants are trading out of 2, but if they are, it's because they don't want a QB

 

I don't think they want a QB. The reports all say they only want Darnold but who knows how much of that is true. You and I both know Eli hasn't been good in years but I wouldn't assume Gettleman knows that. Personally I think all his talk about taking a RB high was just posturing. If he can get 3 1st round talents from the Bills in exchange for 1 he might just do it.

[We May Need to Resign Ourselves to Allen at 5]

2 hours ago, Commonsense said:

Majority of whom are just clinging to completion percentage

 

Completion percentage is not accuracy. That's not what we mean. His inaccuracy shows up on the tape, not just the stat sheet. He doesn't even have good ball placement on simple throws. The only things he does well are throw the ball fast and shake off sacks. Everything else is a major work in progress.

[We May Need to Resign Ourselves to Allen at 5]

1 hour ago, greeneblitz said:

hahaha, "resign" you clowns kill me, we'd be lucky to land him, probably is gonna be the next Ben Rothlesberger, definitely has the highest ceiling in the draft and here we are a team that has had nothing but garbage at QB for 20 years.

I swear 90 percent of our fans don't watch a single game of a guy before you endlessly trash them, the guy makes a lot of lower percentage throws, yards in chunks, throws on the run, his accuracy looks just fine, get of the stat lines and watch the kid play.

 

You've said Josh Allen is a generational talent and Lamar Jackson is a receiver. You could work in the NFL, and I'm not joking.

[Beane giving sense that a trade prior to draft unlikely, all depends on who goes #1]

I can't shake the feeling we're trading up to #2 and selecting Mayfield. Just have to make sure the Browns take Darnold first.

[LAST "Why Josh Allen is a Huge Bust Waiting To Happen" Thread!!]

12 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I’ll bet my left nut this isn’t the last one.

 

Imagine if we draft him!

[Gronk announces he will play in 2018]

 

[Pre-draft QB Rumors]

Thank you for posting what you've heard. I'm a draft addict, any info no matter how small is appreciated.

 

The connection to Mayfield is in line with what Jeremy White's source said. I have a theory that the Bills secretly love Mayfield and have him as their #1. Most of the big media talk has connected us to Darnold, Rosen, or Allen so it makes sense that they'd divert attention away from their real target. If the Browns take Darnold I think we'll do whatever we can to take Mayfield at 2. Just my hunch.

[Allbright: "It's Darnold" UPDATE: He admits he was wrong]

2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Dude this would be ideal. We would still have plenty of picks this year as well....

 

That's the amazing part of this. I would have thought we would need to get 2 or 3 to grab our QB. But with the Giants passing on anyone but Darnold and the Browns holding pick 4 we're in pretty good shape. No team can outbid us for pick 5. Just for pick 12 and 22 alone we should have Rosen at 5, if we get in a bidding war we can throw in 65 and call it a day. Darnold is my #1 but I will be more than happy with Rosen and a slew of picks to build around him.

[Mayock: If Cardinals Move Up, It's for Josh Allen]

49 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said:

All I want is Rosen or Mayfield. Something tells me that these are the two that our teams get.

 

Best odds today would have Rosen in NY and Mayfield in NJ. But my dark horse scenario is that the Bills secretly have Mayfield as their #1 and would trade up with the Giants to take him before the Jets could. Possibly with the Broncos or Colts involved so the Giants end up at 5 or 6. In that scenario you guys probably end up with Allen.

[Allbright: "It's Darnold" UPDATE: He admits he was wrong]

This would be a good scenario for the Bill's. Giants will pass on a QB, Jets can only take one of Mayfield or Rosen (or, God willing, Allen). Leaves a trade up to 4 or 5.

[Sammy Watwins to KC on a 3 Year Deal]

They were the last team I would have expected to sign him. Hill already performs his role better than he does. They didn't need better receivers last year, they needed better defense but they just traded Peters and they don't have a 1st round pick. I think they'll regret this contract in the end but you never know. They're the third team in a row to overpay for Sammy Watkins in an attempt to bolster their young QB. History shows it doesn't usually work out that way.

[What are your ya'll's thoughts on Marcus Mariota as a Franchise QB?]

To me so far he is on track for a Ryan Tannehill type of career. But maybe a new coach will set things right.

[The Buffalo Bills had a private workout with Rosen on Sunday]

7 minutes ago, horned dogs said:

Buscaglia did too, NFL Live did, Galko did.....Not buying it myself. There are a lot of reasons why it makes no sense at all.JMO

 

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

I could be totally wrong but I personally think all of the Allen stuff is coming straight from the Bills. On purpose. 

 

That's what I'm hoping, just a smokescreen. I think if we were going after Allen we'd have been more aggressive in finding a veteran to hold down the fort.

[The Buffalo Bills had a private workout with Rosen on Sunday]

26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t have a lot of Bills info usually. But I have info on Rosen from a college connection who heard about his Bills workout. Just a small thing. Fwiw the Pegulas love him. They are REALLY into tennis and feel it’s a huge benefit for him as a pro QB. And Rosen really likes the culture of the team and the minority female owner. They got along really well. That’s all I know. Peace! 

 

I really hope this is true. Eric Galko jumped on the Allen to Buffalo hype train and it's making me nervous.

[Report: Bills Unlikely to Trade Up to No. 2 - Rapoport]

10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Supposedly the Jets are split on Rosen and Mayfield.  

 

Where have you heard this?

[RUMOR: Browns to take Wyoming QB Josh Allen #1 Overall per Peter King]

14 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said:

Please god no!!!! I know you guys would love that!

 

Every fanbase in the NFL is united in their fears that they will be the team to draft Josh Allen

[Baker Mayfield big news?]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

I do believe he’s in the conversation. The browns have a ton of “minds” involved in this and they all want to be GMs. I think there are probably at least a couple - Mcloughan and the analytics guy - who feel Mayfield is the best qb in the draft. And if they believe the Jets want him at 3 as has been reported, they would need to take him at 1. Its an intriguing possibility but it will depend on who has the final call. 

 

If the Browns can't decide between Allen and Mayfield they really should accept a trade with the Bills. We would take Darnold at 1, Jets would take Allen or Mayfield at 3, and they could have the other one at 4. They could even trade up again from 12 to grab Ward or Smith or something like that.

[Report: Bills Unlikely to Trade Up to No. 2 - Rapoport]

 

I'm starting to think this is pretty close to what will happen.

[Baker Mayfield big news?]

Mayfield at 1 is probably the worst scenario for us. If that happens it becomes a possibility that Darnold goes 2 and Rosen goes 3. I could see the Jets taking Allen if Mayfield isn't there so maybe it works out in the end but I'd be nervous.

[What if no QB with first pick]

What if Jackson or Rudolph ends up the best QB from the draft? Is that really such a shocking prediction that we can't even wait to see what happens before crucifying everyone?

[RUMOR: Browns to take Wyoming QB Josh Allen #1 Overall per Peter King]

 

I could see the first 3 picks being Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen. That would suck.

[Report: Bills Unlikely to Trade Up to No. 2 - Rapoport]

10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Sure there was.  Move to 7 (said they would move out) then move into 3. 

 

What if we only like 2 QBs? The Jets made a dumb move, they don't even know what they traded for yet. I don't know why the Colts made the trade without waiting until draft night to see what offers they can get. My best guess is they decided they don't want to trade lower than 6 so it wasn't worth waiting around.