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OK .. here's another one from Bleacher Report 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1st-Round Projections 1. Cleveland Browns: Sam Darnold, QB, USC 2. New York Giants: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State 3. New York Jets (via Indianapolis Colts): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA 4. Cleveland Browns (via Houston Texans): Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State 5. Denver Broncos: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma 6. Indianapolis Colts (via New York Jets): Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama 8. Chicago Bears: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame 9. San Francisco 49ers: Derwin James, S, Florida State 10. Oakland Raiders: Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia 11. Miami Dolphins: Vita Vea, DT, Washington 12. Buffalo Bills (via Cincinnati Bengals): QB, Josh Allen, Wyoming 13. Washington Redskins: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia 14. Green Bay Packers: Joshua Jackson, CB, Iowa 15. Arizona Cardinals: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville 16. Baltimore Ravens: Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama 17. Los Angeles Chargers: Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech 18. Seattle Seahawks: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame 19. Dallas Cowboys: Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama 20. Detroit Lions: Ronald Jones II, RB, USC 21. Cincinnati Bengals (via Buffalo Bills): Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP 22. Buffalo Bills (via Kansas City Chiefs): Derrius Guice, RB, LSU 23. Los Angeles Rams: Marcus Davenport, EDGE, UTSA 24. Carolina Panthers: Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado 25. Tennessee Titans: Tegray Scales, LB, Indiana 26. Atlanta Falcons: Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan State 27. New Orleans Saints: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State 28. Pittsburgh Steelers: Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas 29. Jacksonville Jaguars: Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State 30. Minnesota Vikings: Braden Smith, OG, Auburn 31. New England Patriots: Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College 32. Philadelphia Eagles: Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU Don't agree with Guice at 22 .. would definitely take Davenport there or Hurst

NFL mock draft 2018: First-round projections, top players Land of 10 predictions Cleveland Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, USC New York Giants — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming New York Jets — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma Cleveland Browns — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State Denver Broncos — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame Indianapolis Colts — Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Derwin James, DB, Florida State Chicago Bears –Denzel Ward, DB, Ohio State San Francisco 49ers — Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech Oakland Raiders — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama Miami Dolphins — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia Buffalo Bills — Marcus Davenport, DL, UTSA Washington Redskins — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama Green Bay Packers — Joshua Jackson, DB, Iowa Arizona Cardinals — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA Baltimore Ravens — Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M Los Angeles Chargers — Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma Seattle Seahawks — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State Dallas Cowboys — Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan Detroit Lions — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU Cincinnati Bengals — Arden Key DB, LSU Buffalo Bills — Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State Los Angeles Rams — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama Carolina Panthers — Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU Tennessee Titans — Mike McGlinchey, G, Notre Dame Atlanta Falcons — Vita Vea, DL, Washington New Orleans Saints — Connor Williams, G/T, Texas Pittsburgh Steelers — Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas Jacksonville Jaguars — Harold Landry, LB, Boston College Minnesota Vikings — Billy Price, OL, Ohio State New England Patriots — Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma Philadelphia Eagles — Ogbonnia Okoronwko, LB, Oklahoma Very Interesting ... thoughts on Davenport at 12 in lieu of Rosen?? Also curious on picks 5-11 .. no QB's

Wentz College Stats (remember d2) .. funny as I have been pouring over the same stats from the top 6 in this draft ... but with all the Wentz commentary in this thread ... I went back and grabbed his ... these numbers don't blow you away. 4 years declining completion percentage ... but he obviously panned out ... my point is I was down on Allen for below .. but maybe he just needs to be put in the right system ... ala Wentz with Doug "the QB" whisperer Peterson ... problem is ... not sure Daboll or McD is that person. Josh Allen College Stats Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate 2015 Wyoming MWC SO QB 2 4 6 66.7 51 8.5 8.5 0 0 138.1 *2016 Wyoming MWC SO QB 14 209 373 56.0 3203 8.6 8.3 28 15 144.9 *2017 Wyoming MWC JR QB 11 152 270 56.3 1812 6.7 6.9 16 6 127.8 Carson Wentz College Stats Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate 2012 North Dakota State MVC FR QB 8 12 16 75.0 144 9.0 11.5 2 0 191.9 2013 North Dakota State MVC SO QB 11 22 30 73.3 209 7.0 7.6 1 0 142.9 2014 North Dakota State MVC JR QB 16 228 358 63.7 3111 8.7 8.8 25 10 154.1 2015 North Dakota State MVC SR QB 7 130 208 62.5 1651 7.9 8.7 17 4 152.3

Dead nuts on ... agree with this analogy in terms of the QB depth .. don't mortgage the farm

I'm not sure I'd take Jackson over Allen .. but agree with sitting tight ... if it took 3 2's to move 3 spots up ... imagine what we'd have to pay to jump the Jets for picks 1 or 2 ... no thanks ... given there is no "clear cut" #1 QB of this class ... sit tight.

Overstating the obvious ... we have sucked at both the QB and passing game (Offensive Coordinator list is horrible) for over 15 years ... hopefully the "process" will find us an able bodied signal caller and match a game plan to extend the ball downfield

How much are we paying?

Can't this be done by a QB coach .. one who played in the league before?

I'm saying let's not sign one of the 2nd tier FA QB's and draft two QB's .. you carry 3 QB's on the roster .. so why use your FA money on (Gabbert, EJ Manuel, Matt Moore, and a whole lot more on McCarron) ... I'd rather plug other holes via FA and draft one of the top 5 QB's in round 1 and come back with Falk or Mike White in Round 2. Joe Webb

I too have been looking at stats of the top 5 ... gotta say I'm landing on Baker ... I like the completion percentage, the wins against top competition (at Ohio State) ... and the chip on his shoulder/passion.

Why do we want Matt Moore or McCarron .. use that money on other positions ... why not improve your odds (of no bust pick) with a QB in the first and the second? More agressive flashback to what the Redskins did with RGIII and Kirk Cousins in same draft.

Sal C on WGR ... we now over $90MM in free agent money in 2019 ... we're big game hunting (gone Watkins, Dareus, Glenn, Taylor and their contracts) ... time for some talent to come to town in 2019.

Yes he is

I'm sure the Bears wish they could have a redo versus setting the bar for McCarron

I read the article and laughed out loud many times .. the Couch / Holcumb bar reference was priceless .. great work Sal!!!!

Wow .. what a crap take .... kid pumped up 20 reps .. and was defensive player of the year in his conference ... has more heart and drive given what he's overcome ... take him all day long.

I hope the Bills draft Shaquem Griffin LB from UCF ... just busted 20 reps at the combine with prostetic Overview Shaquem Griffin is not just a great story, he's an excellent football player. He lost his left hand due to a rate prenatal condition, but that did not prevent him from being named the American Athletic Conference Defensive Player of the Year in his first year as a starting outside linebacker in 2016. He led the Knights with 57 solo tackles (had 92 total), 20 tackles for loss, and 11.5 sacks by chasing down plays with speed and wrapping his arms, while also intercepting a pass and breaking up seven others on the year. Griffin was again a first-team all-conference choice in 2017 (74 tackles, 13.5 for loss, team-high seven sacks, one interception, three pass breakups, two forced fumbles). He has played football with his "older" brother, Shaquill, since they were young. Shaquill came out of the womb one minute before Shaquem, and also left UCF a year earlier (drafted in the third round by Seattle in 2017) than his brother because he did not redshirt. Shaquem played in one game as a sophomore (against Penn State in Ireland), and then played 12 games on special teams and safety, making nine tackles on the year. Griffin was a second-team All-State pick in Florida as a senior, excelled in 7-on-7 teams growing up, and also could have gone to several schools on a track scholarship. Analysis Strengths Possesses good athletic ability. Smart player who processes the game plan and executes. Attacks face-up blockers with maximum arm extension to keep his frame clean. Carries some upper body power at the punch. Asks for no quarter and gives none. Looks to punish as hitter. Impressive total of 13 passes defensed on 42 targets. Instinctive with the talent to play 3-4 inside backer and 4-3 outside backer spots. Has intriguing burst when edge rushing. Accelerates quickly off the snap and can outrace some tackles to the edge. Posted 18.5 sacks over two years as an outside rusher and blitzer. Plays fast uses good technique. Weaknesses Linear and high-cut. Needs to play with more consistent knee bend. Could use more mass and lower body strength. Contact balance is below average when challenged by power. Disengaging from blocks is a challenge. Unable to make quick exits when play-side shoulder covered by a blocker. Felled by cut blocks. Little margin for error as tackle finisher. Target point as tackler can be a little high. Allowed four broken tackles this year. Draft Projection Round 5-6 Sources Tell Us "The old staff signed him just to make sure they got his brother. The new staff realized the guy was a player and plugged him in and he wins Defensive Player of the Year in his conference. He doesn't have a left hand. That's going to limit him with some things and that's going to hurt his draft value, but he's fast and athletic and makes a ton of plays." -- NFC team scouting director Bottom Line Griffin's physical limitation should be discussed as it pertains to areas like tackle disengagement and consistency of finishing, but his instincts, play speed and technique have all been major factors in helping him thrive at his position. His upfield burst as an edge blitzer and his range as a tackler are two strengths that NFL teams could capitalize on. Griffin could hear his name on day three of the draft, but if not, his competitive spirit and playmaking talent give him a shot to make a roster at some point in his career.

This is great news ... don't want to spend what will be the final bidding war price .. I like him and liked him at MSU .. but not at the pricetag he is going to command without a playoff victory.

Totally agree with this ... only Rosen or Mayfield for me . .prefer Mayfield due to leadership intangibles

Looks like Mason Rudolph has Trump Hands and Josh Allen is Sasquatch Notable QB measurements Player Height Weight (lbs) Hand Size Josh Allen 6'4-7/8" 237 10 1/8" J.T. Barrett 6'1-2/8" 224 9 7/8" Kurt Benkert 6'2-5/8" 218 9 4/8" Sam Darnold 6'3-3/8" 221 9 3/8" Luke Falk 6'3-5/8" 215 9 2/8" Riley Ferguson 6'2-6/8" 212 9 5/8" Lamar Jackson 6'2-2/8" 216 9 4/8" Kyle Lauletta 6'2-5/8" 222 9 6/8" Baker Mayfield 6'0-5/8" 214 9 2/8" Josh Rosen 6'4" 226 9 7/8" Mason Rudolph 6'4-1/2" 234 9 1/8" Mike White 6'4-5/8" 224 9 4/8"

Man that sucks ... he just lost millions

Don't see your thoughts White Linen .. make a counter offer

Want: Kalen Ballage Think: Kalen Ballage Like the run / pass catch ability ..he ran over people at the Sr. Bowl.

Candidly .. I'm not in for Rosen, Darnold, or Allen .. let the top couple picks have them. I don't want to Mike Ditka the draft for any of those guys. My vote would be to trade into picks 7 - 10 .. not as steep of a price ... (Tampa has Jameis) ,8 (CHI has Trubisky) .9 (SF has Jimmy G), or 10 Raiders have Carr ... get Baker Mayfield. This trade also assumes Cousins signs with Denver, Browns, or Jets. We give up Pick # 21, Pick #53 for this year and next year's #2 pick. Otherwise if he's gone Sit tight and hold 21 and 22 .. don't take a QB there ... as history shows pick #22 for a QB is a death spiral. Take the DL and C Price. Edit .. Oh well ... given torn pec .. updating this comment ... maybe Lamar at 21