GoBills808

davis is one of the least athletic wideouts ive ever seen coleman being more athletic than him really isn't saying much

Wow to almost all of this

this is where we diverge tbh i think there's almost zero reason to assume the pass offense will be improved over years past. i think the room is weaker and the OC is green

i think so and i say that w the caveat that imo if they were to have an outsize showing it would be on the lower end...i mean i think it's more likely that w this group as currently configured they end up 25th than 3rd, say

i would expect them to fall no lower than 15th but no higher than 10th

yes, i believe you are supposed to struggle in the playoffs. the competition is better and the level of play is higher. it's more difficult to be successful if that's so incomprehensible to you so be it as for your theory that the offense is responsible for us not getting to the Super Bowl- i don't have the energy to keep refuting it. if believing that makes you happy go for it. this thread is supposed to be about wideouts anyway

lol please don't feel too sorry for me, im not the one arguing that the offense is responsible for us not getting to the Super Bowl when the defense consistently puts up bottom of the league type performances

i mean we are arguing chicken and egg now basically...the 13second game would have been one in allens pocket and one fewer in mahomes i know you dont believe allen is at mahomes level but i do, so those arguments don't really work for me.

yes we agree on offense, i would obviously take the same approach the difference being i already know he can because he currently is above Mahomes' level in the playoffs😂😂

when the argument that the defense doesnt implode in the playoffs devolves into 'but allen isn't as good as mahomes' it has failed

josh allen averages more touchdowns and fewer ints per playoff game than patrick mahomes if you want to continue to argue this point go for it but im telling you its a loser

you are very adept at making my point for me the reason KC is able to win a championship scoring 23.75 ppg on offense...is because they have a defense that can support that kind of middling offensive production.

these are the ones

lol this is peak offseason when your response is 'sometimes the offense struggles too!'...its the NFL playoffs. you are EXPECTED to struggle. what you aren't expected to do is lay down on defense like we do consistently and without fail. our defense does not make opposing offenses struggle. in 3 games vs the Chiefs in the playoffs we are allowing 450ypg and 35.6ppg...that is unforgiveable. the bengals somehow manage to actually play professional defense to the tune of 366ypg and 23.5ppg

We all watch the games It's a solid take

😂😂 Even the box score is x rated

even the people who dont like allen have shot that quote down from what ive seen

crazy take since Allen's been QB the offense has averaged 379 yards/game and 26.9points/game in the playoffs. for reference that would have been the 4th and 6th best offensive production in the league last season, respectively the defense meanwhile has somehow managed to give up 380 yards/game and 24.8 points/game, which for reference would have been the 31st ranked defense by yards and the 30th ranked defense by points last season the defense is absolutely horrific in the playoffs. it's not just bad, it's legitimately worst in the league bad

Nobody says Allen doesn't play well in the playoffs

And Taylor

Got one😂😂

Yes I'm not saying there are fewer smarter people in the NFL so much as I am there are more dumber ones everywhere

good point re the business part

Agree on information However I submit intelligence is not prerequisite for working in nor following closely enough to have informed opinions of the league at large In fact I'm more of the opinion that the cumulative IQ of the NFL and its fan base probably falls below average compared to other pro sports leagues

If you insist on this terrible analogy We got a flip phone because the iPhone wasn't in the budget. All that means is you need a cellphone, it doesn't mean youve sufficiently prioritized having a phone