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I think this directly clashes with the HC mindset on the situation discussed.

yeah only reason I don’t like doing these things now because teams can always get under cap. But at least what is shows is the UFA Depth at the specific position relative to what is already on the roster. that is why I see this position group as thin because there really are only 2 (Henry and Hooper) that can be seen as immediate upgrades. The others seem to just be shuffling names. For example at this point I do not see an old Eifert coming in and pushing Knox down to TE2. Only two I see doing that are Hooper and Henry that is my thinking in these not so much how to improve the bottom of the position group because that is easy. But what is needed to put players where I see them as their best spot and right now that is Knox as TE2. So I have to get better than him.

That very well could happen if Hooper or Henry dont hit the market. Not sure I can definitely point to any of those UFA TEs outside those two would upgrade the room. If they don’t go UFA route I could easily see another TE taken in draft. weapons are weapons. They don’t have to be outside at WR. I think with a reliable TE in thei group like a Hooper and people wouldn’t be screaming for that Big Physical WR. additionally more evidence on the importance of this group. look at Tom Brady when he lost his TEs Look at the current group of young QBs. Seems the ones that have made strides have a legit TE on their roster. Mahomes - Kelce Jimmy G - Kittle Wentz - Ertz and Goedart Lamar - Andrews and Hurst Baker - Better with Njoku on the field Darnold - Started looking for with Griffin after missing his TE all season.

yep that would occur maybe around camp after trying to shop them and make sure all others a healthy

***Disclaimer*** I will not put all Names not on the Bills in this thread as it would get to long, I will keep it to a couple names in each tier (as I see them). Hope you enjoy the read. Did TE early for @RyanC883 Currently on Roster: (Positional Spending 5 players 11.120M Cap ranked 10th in league) Tyler Kroft (UFA 2022) – Saves 4.812M against cap if Cut Lee Smith (UFA 2022) – Saves 2.25M against the cap if Cut. Dawson Knox (UFA 2023) Tommy Sweeny (UFA 2023) Nate Becker (signed futures deal) My Take: First, I would want more production out of this group that is 10th in the league in terms of Cap Commitment. A heck of a lot more when the position group accounted for only: 46 rec, 604 yards 13.13 avg, 4 TDs. Those numbers as a group would rank them as the 13th best TE in Rec, 11th best in yards, 20th in AVG, tied for 14th in TDs. This position group is on the verge of being great IMO. Also, there are to very easy cap savings moves if you go and get more. I do think more is needed and if the Bills choose to do that, we will have one of the best TE room in the league and could be argued would be even better than Baltimore. I will get to those move(s) later. But First let m address the current Situation at this group. Dawson Knox for a rookie did well, however a major issue that you cannot have with your TE is the drops. H was tied for 4th in the league with 6 drops. Add that into his 56.0% (28 rec 50 tgts) catch rate and you have a lot of drive killers, when your TE should be reliable for your QB. What was interesting is when I looked at his numbers compared to other TEs and what sticks out to me is that he has respectable numbers for a NO 2 TE. Ranked 36 in receptions, 23rd in Yards, 15th in AVG, 15th in 20+ catches and has a 53.6% 1st down rate. Everyone knew he was raw coming out of School, and it showed. I don’t think the plan ever was to have him start at TE, the INJ to Kroft solidified that this season and he struggled. However, if he can fix the Drops and the Catch % I think there is something here. The rest of the group I don’t really have much to talk about here except with Sweeney, in the limited opportunities he has had he has performed and that is a good thing. I look at him as a younger better option than both Smith and Kroft. So, I would improve this position with 2 (likely one Draft and 1 UFA). You can easily walk away from Lee Smith and Kroft for savings and improve the position group at the same time, now before I get into that, because there is no immediate cap need, these two stays on the Roster until that improvement is on the team. UFAs Possible Tier 1: Hunter Henry (likely a 9.5M AVV) Austin Hooper (likely a 10.5M AVV) Tier 2: Tyler Eifert Jacob Hollister Eric Ebron Possible Trade Market Greg Olsen OJ Howard Draft Tier 1: Brysen Hopkins (Purdue) Hunter Bryant (Washington) Albert Okwuegbunam (Missouri) Cole Kmet (ND) Tier 2: Jared Pinkney (Vanderbilt) Colby Parkinson (Stanford) Cheyenne O’Grady (Arkansas) Tier 3: Harrison Bryant (FAU) Josiah Deguara (Cincy) Mitchell Wilcox (South FL) Final thinking in this Position group for me would be: Sign Austin Hooper (25 yrs old). 5 years 50M with 33 guaranteed, AVV 10M per. That brings another 75 receptions and 6 TDs. Gives Bills a legit game breaking TE at the TE1 and puts Knox in the TE2 role which would be perfect. I also would go get Okwugbunam in the draft (likely a 4th rounder or later for a developmental athletic freak). After signing Hooper (back up plan would be Henry) I would release (don’t think I would find a pick for him) Kroft. Another thing about Hooper is he would put the Veteran in the room that McD and Beane love so much, just one that can really play. I also have Sweeney take over for Smith and cut Smith as well. (Both Kroft and Smith might be post camp cuts as no immediate need for the cap space). That would put the TE room going into camp something like this: Austin Hooper Dawson Knox Tommy Sweeney Albert Okwubunam Tyler Kroft Lee Smith Nate Becker Now getting Hooper or Henry likely means no drafted player in the position and I am OK with that as well, just showing the TE I would like out of this class. But I would rather spend my 10M a year with Hooper or Henry over spending it in WR. I was OK with this group this season, they underperformed IMO based on the Cap Space allocated to it. However there are two young talents that can grow, now go get a legit TE to add to this group and give Allen a reliable TE.

Whats the cap hit?

His Interview was today. Carolina wouldn't let him out of the door

If they truly empowered DePodsta it will be Kevin Stefanski. If Jimmy and Dee over rule again it will be McDaniels

Last team with no coach. Kevin Stefanski Comeon Down.

I would go with Moore. I think he retires (if I remember right he had to be coaxed out of retirement this year.

I thought about Dalton (but he isn’t free yet. Could be added). Bridgewater is going to want to start. He showed the league he can be a starting QB and IMO I think NE will be his landing spot when Tom retires or leaves.

Early But I agree

Now that the Season is over, I thought I would try this maybe it will spark some nice discussion. I used to do something like this for camp as well. Disclaimer I will not put all Names not on the Bills in this thread as it would get to long, I will keep it to a couple names in each tier (as I see them). Hope you enjoy the read Currently on Roster: Josh Allen (3 yrs to UFA) Matt Barkley (1 yr to UFA) – Saves 1.8M against the cap if Cut. Davis Webb (signed a Futures Deal) My Take: I am not going to turn this in to a Josh Allen thread as it is about organizational depth, however you can’t rally address the position without talking about the starters in that group either. I personally am still not sold on Josh Allen as a long-term future QB of this team. I was hoping to come away with that feeling but I just am not, and to b honest right now that is not a bad thing for the reasons I will list below: Reason 1 – Say what you want about Allen, he was the rawest QB in the draft. It was always going to take time with him. To be honest this year for me was about “does he look the part”. Also looking at the other QBs in his class (going to exclude Lamar Jackson from this for a moment because of Greg Roman’s building an offense to fit Lamar, not sure if that offense is sustainable, but will come back to it.) I wanted to see if Allen could match Darnold, Mayfield and Rosen (going to leave out because Allen passed him bad). So, looking at Darnold and Mayfield in terms of Stats. Darnold: 61.9%, 3024 yds, 21 tot TDs, 16 turnovers, 6.9 ypa Mayfield: 59.4%, 3827 yds, 25 tot TDs, 23 turnovers, 7.2 ypa Allen: 58.8%, 3089 yds, 29 tot TDs, 13 turnovers, 6.7 ypa Essentially these numbers show that in second year Allen the furthest away from NFL ready has grown to these two and closed the gap. Lamar of course right now is the best QB in the class and grown more than all these QBs, so even including him I am happy of that growth from year 1 to 2 from Allen. And I think this is that floor for Allen, with still a ton of room for his ceiling and to continue to raise his floor. Reason 2 – On could argue that this was Allen’s first year with an actual set of weapons and a decent OL in front of him. And with that he improved his numbers by: 6.0% completion %, 1015 yards (granted played 3 more games), 10 more passing TDs, 3 less INTs, 21.6 rating, and 0.2 in ypa. Those are growth numbers, and I think you get him a better OL and Better weapons and he will continue that slope. Now that said on Allen, I am still not sold as the long-term answer as I said, but there is enough growth there that I don’t think we need to cut him loose or look for upgrades at the starter spot, let me see another year. The guys in the room love him and would go to battle for him, coming from a organization that thrives off leadership (Military) those types of statements I hear from these NFL Veterans show me his leadership capability. When a team is willing to fight for you that is all you need to hear in terms of the leadership intangibles. Allen has all the intangibles and skills you would want as a QB. So can he become more consistent week in and week out and continue to improve his mechanics. The work ethic is there, I would love to see another similar jump in numbers at the end of next year. If he can do that the final numbers (passing only) would look like. 64.8%, 4104 yards, 30 TDs, 6 INT, 6.9 ypa with a 95.3 rating - those are TOP END QB Numbers. Now that said the issue becomes BU QB. This could likely be the last year you need that grizzled VET on the sideline helping Allen. So, an Argument could be made to let Barkley go and go young at the BU position. I don’t think Davis Webb offers anything. I also do not think on the field I am confident in Barkley. I know having that Vet at every position group is something McD and Beane like to have so with that in mind I would address the BU QB position with an actual competition for Barkley either UFA or Rookie. UFAs Possible it will be kinda dry in terms of an possible upgrade to Barkley. Tier 1 Eli Manning – not sure if he is willing to accept that BU role and some team will likely make him a bridge starter Marcus Mariota – I don’t think h starts again Tier 2: Chad Henne – This would be my TGT, Mahomes is on record talking about how much Henne has helped his growth and likely a 5M to 6M AVV can get it done. When you remove Barkley’s contract you are paying a little more for IMO a Better option Matt Moore – Think he retires. Draft (guys I think will not b looked for to start right away) Tier 1: Jalen Hurts (Oklahoma) Jacob Eason (Washington) Sam Ehlinger (UT) Tier 2: Tyler Huntley (Utah) Anthony Gordon (Washington State) Kellen Mond (Texas A&M) Final thinking in this Position group for me would be to stay put, UNLESS I can get Chad Henne then I would go there and upgrade that room. I would not go young at backup this year, maybe one more year away until we can be in the business of drafting, developing and flipping QBs. I am happy with this position group as is in 2020 cap and money likely will be better spent elsewhere

mans not in your line of work. In NFL where officials can apply common sense they 100% are when then safe signal has been used ALL YEAR as I am not intending to return the Ball.

really it is black and white. How many times has PI been called right? Is there HOLDING called on Every play? According to black and white rules their should be. guess what right call. And now I am done

I don’t care what Devin Hester did BEFORE the KO rules are changed

really? Let’s see I clicked it and it worked. Interesting seems very valid link police

No desire to advance. Did he have a desire to advance? wait you don’t want common sense rules?

I know it sucks being but hurt. Tell me again please cause it still won’t change a thing. RIGHT COMMON SENSE CALL

cool No desire to Advance. Thanks.

Ooo well. I am glad they did it. Finally common sense used by officials. Needs to happen with entire rule book. And I for one think they got it right and that will not change

they don’t even know what a catch is. Bottom line they should look at that play and say OK good use of Common Sense. Now let’s go through our way to complicated Rule Book and apply common sense to all the rules.

I think those that would like AJ Green should post the contract they would accept. Because that will be the crux of the issue

and yet that isn’t what has been happening all year with the safe signal when the rules changed to not make it a live ball of hits in endzone and with the restrictive lines this became standard practice. I wish they had a more common sense approach to ALL their rules like they did here