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there are some. Just none of the top punters do.

well OBJ was at Berea today unless there are a lot of Browns Orange Rolls Royces Cruising around Cleveland WGR reporting Daboll Not a finalist

Yeah Caserio would be in play with Daboll too. so if it is Daboll I hope it is Caserio, Don't take our OC and Schoen or Morgan

Yep I would want McKenzie, Foster and Duke in a fight for the spot. Obviously they are going to bring a lot more into camp, there will likely be 10-13 WRs in camp, but no Big signings a lot of 1 year deals later in UFA

His Value is about 8M a year AVV. If he wants more than that he isn't getting it from ANYONE A 4 year 31M with about 15 GTD is what he is worth

Will look into him more.

You do know we don't run a cover 2 right? We run majority cover 3 and 4 in coverage. You probably don't though seeing I have seen you cite this falsehood a couple different places now

I think they want to set it up like we did here, hire the HC and bring the GM in after that he could work with. This is slightly concerning because if it is Daboll I would fully expect him to Raid our FO staff. Which could mean one of these could be gone Joe Schoen (Ouch) Malik Boyd Dan Morgan (ouch) Brian Gaine (again)

Did he "give" them up, or was he credited them after a 2018 UDFA In Kyle Allen or a 2019 3rd round Rookie Will Grier get confused and hold a ball too long. Without watching the Panthers games and looking at each sack to see how long the QB held the ball, just citing sack numbers is meaningless

What's Funny is Browns fans that are actually hating on the Daboll chance site the Offenses he has had, specially with them and how the players hated him. But love McDaniels with no second thought of his Denver HC Stint. Fact is Daboll was OC for them 10 years ago. He also is very respected by players here (maybe he learned how to treat players in 10 years) Also he would be a 1st time HC similar to McD, one would easily assume he would do what McD did as well, hire experienced OCs and DCs They are not hiring him to be OC they would be hiring him to be HC and Change Culture, out of all the candidates he would be leaving an Organization and HC that did JUST that here, you would think he picked up some pointers. They are very shot sighted over there in Cleveland

Yep like it always has been. DePodesta - Stefanski Haslam's - McDaniels

***Disclaimer*** I will not put all Names not on the Bills in this thread as it would get to long, I will keep it to a couple names in each tier (as I see them). wit this I am wrapping up Offense and Special Teams and I will be on to the Defense starting next week. Hope you enjoy the read. ***NOTE*** Please do not turn this into an AJ Green Thread. Past Writeups Quarterback Running Backs Tight Ends Offensive Line Specialists Currently on Roster: (Positional Spending 6 players 19.372M Cap (ranked 15th in league) John Brown (UFA 2022) – Saves 6.518M against cap if Cut Cole Beasley (UFA 2023) – Saves 2.568M against cap if Cut Andre Roberts (UFA 2021) – Saves 1.5M against cap if Cut Duke Williams (EFRA 2021) – Saves 585K against cap if Cut Nick Easley (signed futures deal) - Ray-Ray McCloud (signed futures deal) Expiring Contracts: Isaiah McKenzie (25 yrs old) (RFA) (600K AVV) Robert Foster (26 yrs old) (EFRA) (525K AVV) My Take: First, I will address the expiring contracts. They really are not expiring contracts because McKenzie will get the Original Tender and be back, I don’t think Bills need to go anything higher than the original tender to keep him. Foster will get his EFRA tender and be back. These are both players that need to be replaced but will be back just because of their contract status of both being very cheap to bring back. I will never really understand what happened with Foster this year, compared to last year, it looked like he was poised to break out and be a NO1 WR, he never did, he has had motivation issues in the past did that catch back up with him? But the reality is Duke Williams brings more to this offense and the numbers show that out as well. Isaiah McKenzie– 39 TGTs, 254 yards 1 TD, Catch Rate 69% and a DVOA -20.8%, Robert Foster– 18 TGTs, 64 yards, 0 TDs, Catch Rate 17% 2 DPI Drawn 58 yards and a DVOA -42.0% Duke Williams – 19 TGTs, 166 yards, 1 TD, Catch Rate 63% and a DVOA +2.8% Now to the other WRs (not Roberts he is a Return Man not a WR). Brown and Beasley. Both have been great additions as well but looking at the dead money on these guys knowing they were JUST SIGNED I have to tip my hat to Beane. And thing point I am going to bold here but you can look at all the UFAs Beane as signed in my other position groups they are all essentially on year deals with easy outs. This is amazing cap management and solidifies to me that they can go get WHOEVER they want and not hurt their cap long term because he has shown a capability to craft cap friendly early outs. So not back on task. John Brown – 115 TGTs, 1060 yards, 6 TDs, Catch Rate 63%, 4 Drops (T19th in NFL) and a DVOA +11.1% (Ranks 22nd in NFL) Cole Beasley – 105 TGTs, 778 yards, 6 TDs, Catch Rate 64%, 5 Drops (T10th in NFL), drew 1 DPI for 26 yards and a DVOA of +2.5 (Ranks 39th in NFL) I probably am going to get fragged for this, but John Brown is an excellent WR2 not a WR1. But that being said, I do like John Brown at a top end WR1B or WR2. I think the worst play from him that I saw was the failed toe tap in the WC game, I know he logged 4 drops, but I don’t remember one really hurting a drive IE Big spot like I can with Knox’s and Beasley drops. But either way another thing I do like that Brown gave is that 73.6% of his catches resulted in a first down. Which ranks him in 8th in the NFL with WRs and TEs with over 50 catches. What I knew about him coming into Buffalo was he was blazing fast and that was confirmed, what I didn’t know and what he opened my eyes up to is how complete of a WR he is. His route running is exceptional as well he always seemed to me that he was open, he easily would find holes in Zones, and in Man coverage he was always gaining separation out of his breaks as well. This was a good signing from Buffalo and see why they also tried to sign him last year. Beasley also had a respectable 1st down conversion of 55.2% of his catches resulting in First down. What I noticed about him, is he is better against man than he is against a zone. I think the reason that is the way he runs routes and the crispness off then he gets immediate separation out of breaks. Against a zone it is more of a feel to find the soft-spot or the seam in the zone. My Cowboy friends told me that if he gets bracketed it can take him out of games, and I think that was seen as well. Get another legit threat at WR or TE and it becomes much harder to do that too him. The organizational depth in this group is atrocious. There are really only 2 NFL caliber WRs on this roster and needs infusion of talent. So, I can see another offseason like last with going into the position multiple times, maybe a couple lower tier WRs via UFA and using a 1st or 2nd in the draft, or even a couple of draft picks. How this position group gets addressed this offseason will be interesting. Possible Trade TGTs (hard to gauge until after SB): OBJ – really is the only one I have heard so far as possibly being available this offseason. UFAs Possible Tier 1 AJ Green Amari Cooper Larry Fitzgerald Emmanuel Sanders Robbie Anderson (I wont downgrade him because of his off-field stuff) Tier 2 Randall Cobb Zach Pascal (EFRA) - meaning he 99.99999999999999999% is staying in Indy Nelson Agholor Breshad Perriman Demarcus Robinson Philip Dorsett Draft (adding size here because I know people want to know that when talking WR) Tier 1 (1st and 2nd round grades) Outside: Jerry Jeudy (6’1, 192) (Alabama) CeeDee Lamb (6’2 189) (Oklahoma) Tee Higgins (6’4 200) (Clemson) Laviska Shenault Jr. (6’2 220) (Colorado) Henry Ruggs III (6’0 183) (Alabama) Tyler Johnson (6’2 200) (Minnesota) Justin Jefferson (6’2 185) (LSU) Michael Pittman Jr. (6’4 223) (USC) Slot: Jalen Reagor (5’11 195) (TCU) KJ Hamler (5’9 174) (Penn ST) Aaron Fuller (5’11 186) (Washington) Tier 2 (3rd-5th round) Outside: Collin Johnson (6’6 220) (Texas) Brandon Aiyuk (6’0 208) (Az ST) Donovan People-Jones (6’2 208) (Michigan) Slot: None Tier 3 (6th – Priority UFA) Outside: John Hightower (6’2 184) (Boise State) KJ Hill (6’0 195) (Ohio St) Antonio Gandy-Golden (6’4 216) (Liberty) Chase Claypool (6’4 227) (ND) Gabriel Davis (6’3 212) (UCF) Denzel Mims (6’3 197) (Baylor) Quinten Cephus (6’1 207) (Wisconsin) Isaiah Hodgins (6’4 209) (Oregon State) Bryan Edwards (6’3 215) (South Carolina) Slot: Devin Duvernay (5’11 186) (Texas) James Poche (5’11 190) (SMU) Final thinking in this Position group for me would be: This position group needs work with right now only two legit NFL receivers on the roster. Before I start with what I would do let me address what this would turn into. AJ Green if I can get him to accept a Prove it Deal a 1-year 12M with little GTD I would. Or I would also offer about what his value will be (with INJ and age) 2-year 19M with 9M GTD, 9.5M AVV. But I don’t think he would accept that. Now what I would like Bills to look at. Go after a Tier 2 WR in UFA. My Choice will be Breshard Perriman I don’t think Tampa is in a position to sign him. And I think a Cole Beasley Contract is acceptable and will get it done 4 years 29M, 12 GTD with a 7.25M AVV and an easy out after the first year. That will give you the same Deep speed as Foster and allows for the Rookie not to have to come right in and excel. He really came on late in the year with Tampa. That give me at last 3 real NFL WRs on the roster before the draft. In the draft I would take 2. One early and one late. My Early target right now is Laviska Shenault. Reason why is he has the skill set right now we are filling with players. Big and Powerful (Duke Williams). Plenty of Speed (will time in 4.4s or lower, Robert Foster) and can run jet sweeps, out of backfield, QB the WC similar to McKenzie). He also has a good catch radius and can high point balls. In Later round get be the Big TGT for competition with Duke Williams so like a Hodgins, Claypool, Mims. This is the position group I would like addressed in the first round. You Can see in round 3-5 the depth thins out in the outside WR group, so a lot of those Tier 3 guys are going to be over drafted. Yes it is a deep draft like everyone is saying but that depth I fully anticipate will get gone fast, and if we wait until the second round (where we are picking we are going to miss out)

Well Hauschka being 1/5 from 50 plus probably aided greatly in that evolution

He isn’t a very good DC. That is why Panther fans are happy. He is a hell of a DL coach though.

Their Message Board https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/161854-eric-washington-hired-by-bills-to-be-dl-coach/ "Good for him. He’s a excellent DL coach but nowhere close to qualified as a DC. Why Rivera couldn’t figure this out is beyond anyone with good eyes. I actually think RR is more to blame for his failures as a DC." "great hire. There is a very real thing in life called over promoting someone. Means you can have a GREAT employee. Fantastic. You can then overpromote them.....into a position they don't excel at. That doesn't mean the person wasn't great and won't be again in the right job. Washington is a great DL coach. The fact we put him into a job he didn't do well doesn't change that." Seems the Theme.... Hell of a DL coach, not a DC

He is only going to get ONE more shot at HC in the NFL. He has to be very smart where he picks

Add Daboll to that. DePodesta - Stefanski and Daboll Haslams - McDaniels

Stefanski or Daboll will be the pick if they listen to DePodesta It will be McDaniels if Jimmy and Dee over-rule DePodesta again

Tells me the Carolina Pipeline is still alive and well, So I can see all Carolina UFAs getting looks.

Blah PFF. I have had enough of their Grades. Cody Ford has a similar grade from PFF and then there are the numbers Carolina Runs over RT 4.41 ypc ranked 14th in the NFL Bills runs over RT 2.95 ypc ranked 29th in the NFL

Was McD DL coach in Carolina, so knows how to teach the scheme.

Likely a Nate Soldier type AVV of 15.5M a year

I think he likely gets re-signed before camp breaks.

Like this hire, now Daryl Williams coms right back on the Radar as an UFA OL signing

Will do. Going to really start digging into the draft in a week or so. Having a good team really messed up my offseason timing stuff, I haven't even thought about the draft past my initial gradings. Not hating having a good team to make me do that but that is another reason I decided to do these things, so I can get other Ideas on who to look at.