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this wasn’t meant to be a dig at Knox. Only TE they should be after in UFA is someone better than Knox. Ebron isn’t better than Knox. knox is younger, cheaper and higher upside than Ebron and essentially already at Enron’s Level as a rookie. That is what I was getting at with this post. IMO you are only paying one of the two Safeties (because of the system). So who is more important Hyde or Poyer.

Different Skill Set. Can’t compare an inline blocking TE to a Flex TE. so if they sign Ebron to do what Lee Smith does NO HE would NOT be an upgrade

And I said he is not better than what we have on the roster. You want real improvement in the position your Target should be Hooper and Henry.

Knox moves to TE2. Which is about where he should be right now. So now my 2 TE sets actually have two legit options. If he progresses to be better (he may he may not) in 3 years when he is really ready for TE 1 you can flip Hooper or have two legit weapons at the position. Beane isn’t going to spend in UFA on a top end WR he is gonna address that in draft. So get the legit Offensive weapon at TE. again this thinking only applies to Hooper and Henry. If those 2 are not available then I am not saying sign an Eifert to take away from Knox. they will get more Value for their money spent in this position over WR. Because how this one position helps three (QB, WR and TE).

I am taking advantage of it. I am going and signing a top 5 TE.

Show me where he doesn't get open. and yeah a guy that has many years in the league should be better than a Raw Rookie in a year, but guess what EBRON was no BETTER than Knox this year

***Disclaimer*** I will not put all Names not on the Bills in this thread as it would get to long, I will keep it to a couple names in each tier (as I see them). Hope you enjoy the read. Special Teams is easy so I knocked out a 3rd one today. Also Tomorrow RB is on the list. And might get to WR. Currently on Roster: (Positional Spending 4 players 4.61M Cap ranked 15th in league) Corey Bojorquez (RFA 2021) – Saves 660K against cap if Cut Steven Hauschka (UFA 2022) – Saves 1.8M against the cap if Cut. Reid Ferguson (UFA 2022) – Saves 650K against the cap if Cut Kaare Vedvik (signed futures deal) My Take: First, I am going to start with Corey Bojorquez, I by no means am a punting expert here so I will rely on numbers and some things that I saw. First talk about inconsistent and that seems to be a theme with him. Will get off a nice punt one minute and then shank the next. It is maddening. Second something else I noticed he seems slow to kick the ball, more so than other punters, it is like his process and movements just are slower than most. To the numbers his AVG is 41.9 and a net AVG of 37.7 with a single block and 34 inside the 20. That puts him at 32nd in AVG, 32nd in Net AVG, tied for 2nd in blocks and tied for 3rd in punts inside the 20. While I like the number of punts inside the 20 h also has 7 Touch backs which is tied for the most in the league. I think the Bills have been trying to get better here for a couple years, but I also do not think that they want to break the bank on punter when you look at the level of competition brought in. I do think they likely have made their only move into this position with Kaare Vedvik who as a punter at Marshall had an avg of 44.0. But this is a position that needs to be upgraded. I am not going to talk about Reid Ferguson too much, I am fine with him as LS. Snaps are fine and have good pace back to punter and kicker, don’t see really to many issues here. Other than a good way to make a living if you want to teach your kids how to Long Snap. Next one is tricky because kickers are a weird group and when you have one that is solid but not exceptional you look elsewhere but that could come back to haunt you. Couple things though Hauschka has been trending down the last 2 years but also was good in playoff game and late in the season. Really when Bills put in a claim for Chase McLaughlin, he picked it up. Weird to say I have a feeling sticking with Hauschka over McLaughlin out of camp is going to hurt. But again, just a kicker. Looking at his numbers he is 79% in FG, 94% in XP those put him at 25th in FG% and 24th in XP%. Looking a little further 1-19 yards – No Attempts 20-29 yards – 5/5 100% 30-39 yards – 7/8 88% 40-49 yards – 9/10 90% 50+ - 1/5 20% So we see the issue this year was those long FGs and that also meshes with what seemed like lack of leg on Kick Offs as well. Could he be replaced sure but be careful when looking for kickers they are a fickle group and there was a league wide kicking problem this year. UFAs Possible Kicker Kai Forbath Dan Bailey Mason Crosby Joey Slye – I could see him hitting the market maybe as Graham Gano comes off IR Younghoe Koo Punter: Sam Martin Matt Bosher Britton Colquitt Ryan Allen Lac Edwards Matt Haack (would love it but likely gets tendered as an RFA and not going to give a punter a qualifying offer I don’t think). Draft Punter: Michael Turk (AZ ST) (46.0 avg 11th in Nation) with 67 punts 53 were 50+ and 36 inside 20 Arryn Siposs (Auburn) (43.8 avg 28th in Nation) 11 punts were 50+ and 16 inside 20 Joseph Charlton (South Carolina) (47.7 avg 3rd in Nation) 27 punts 50+ 28 inside 20 Kicker: Dominik Eberle (Utah State) Rodrigo Blakenship (Gorgia) Logon Justus (Indiana) Final thinking in this Position group for me would be: Take one of our picks after round 5 and draft one of the punters. The reality is once we get passed round 4 I think any player drafted is going to have a hard time seeing the field with the depth that we have built on this team. So, I am looking to upgrade a position that we have been trying to for a while All three of these punters have draftable grades IMO. So, go get one. I really am not going to be comfortable going into camp with Kaare Vedvik and Corey Bojorquez in a punting battle. All kickers in the draft have undraftable grades and without seeing an actual upgrade to Hauschka right now just stay with him. Just know that anything over 50 yards at this point I would seriously consider going for it instead, especially in open air conditions. The Punter needs to be upgraded and be serious about it go draft one in this years draft, that will be better value than getting another CB that ends up on the PS or any position like that.

So you wouldn't want a legit TE on this Roster? you can get playmakers everywhere I don't need size (though I will address WR later) on the outside when I have legit matchup nightmares at TE How many years has this board worried about how to cover Gronk? How many team worry every time they play KC and San Fran over Kittle and Kelce. We get a legit threat at TE the current WR group gets better too. So with ONE signing of Hooper you get an upgrade at TE and WR (and you didn't even touch that position yet) In terms of Skill I like Hunter Henry more than Hooper. In terms of Health History that is the only reason I have Henry as plan B. But like the Bills did with Morse, maybe they TGT and try and sign Henry first as others fighting over Hooper

Bet he goes to Cincy on the Tag

Not on the OL yet

I think you are about right with Milano at 8M AVV right now. I don't think you are with Shaq. He is going to get 10M AVV on open market Does it really matter is he gets open if he drops (5 this year) it or cant catch it Knox had 6 drops and a 56% Catch Rate Ebron had 5 drops and a 59.6% catch rate Knox = Ebron just younger and cheaper

Other things that limit YAC is sideline throws, and throws to WRs facing the LOS. We throw a lot of BOTH

Except he has close to the same catch % as Dawson Knox. Career 59.96% Knox 56.0%

Also led the league in Touch Backs NOT good and was the worst in the league in Net AVG with under 40 ALSO not good.

yep.

Everyone. TE, WR and RBs

he has made himself a punter. Turned down kicker workouts (NE) to so let focus on punting. Which was very smart by him at this point in his career.

May take you up on that. I always try to get to the MIA game as one of my 10-12 I hit. Always depends on work. I could see that too. Because Knox already makes Kroft expendable if they sign into the position with Hooper or Henry. Smith is a deferent skill set so I could see them taking him to camp to see if Sweeney can make him expendable

no Prob. Gonna try and do Two Groups a day as I go through my notes no promises though.

And I won’t mind that either if they are cut immediately after Hooper is signed. We don’t have cap issues no reason to do it now until Hooper or Henry are already here.

yeah Hard to do UFAs now. But one Franchise Tags are applied I tend to just do a post highlighting strictly UFA at that point. this is more of an early exercise for me looking at organizational depth on Bills and Depth in UFA classes at each group knowing some will go away and some more will get added. Just a snap shot in time. And for the first time in about 2 decades I haven’t started offseason stuff until January. Normally I am already well into offseason mode by November looking at needs and organizational depth etc.

I have a sneaking suspicion that when I get to WRs later that is going to be what I recommend

Anything that Brings Competition to that Group. Haush got better after Bills tried to Claim their old kicker and Bojo has been Blah. Both stand to be upgraded. I think I read somewhere he gave up Kicking as well just to focus on Punting. yeah I knew I read it. He declined a workout offer from Pats to focus on punting. https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/02/kaare-vedvik-declines-patriots-workout-offer-to-concentrate-on-punting/amp/

And with that he improved his numbers by: 6.0% completion %, 1015 yards (granted played 3 more games), 10 more passing TDs, 3 less INTs, 21.6 rating, and 0.2 in ypa. I would love to see another similar jump in numbers at the end of next year. If he can do that the final numbers (passing only) would look like. 64.8%, 4104 yards, 30 TDs, 6 INT, 6.9 ypa with a 95.3 rating - those are TOP END QB Numbers.