jrober38

No. Matt Stafford is the only guy with a sub 58% career completion percentage who has gone on to be a franchise QB in the NFL over the past 20 years. He also completed 61% of his throws his final year at Georgia.

The #2 guy doesn't get any reps either. As 3rd string he'd probably get to run the scout team which would be good for him.

Not a chance. He's a huge project. This is like drafting an NBA player out of high school. We need to teach him how to play the game for a couple years before he'll be properly prepared to compete on an NFL field. This guy needs to sit on the bench as long as possible. 2 years on the bench would be ideal.

Hard to imagine him being anything more than the 3rd string QB this year. He needs to sit on the bench for a couple years.

The problem is that if you watch the tape Josh Allen struggles to complete wide receiver screens. Also, he played in the Mountain West. He was going up against garbage defenses week in and week out. His supporting cast was just as good as the defenders he faced.

Hopefully.

They all got drafted high because they can throw the ball really far while lacking accuracy.

Talk to me in 3 years. As many can vouch for from the BBMB, I know a bust when I see one. I'm really hard on QB prospects. When there's a guy I really dislike as a prospect, they wind up as colossal busts (Jimmy Clausen, Matt Barkley, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Christian Hackenberg, Paxton Lynch were all guys I railed against over the past 5-6 years). Inaccurate college QBs who play garbage competition like Allen faced in the Mountain West don't go on to make successful NFL QBs.

1. Being smart means absolutely nothing when it comes to reading a defense or knowing where to go with the ball. His game film shows a guy who struggles enormously when pressured, and who often fails to move past his first progression. 2. His bad supporting cast played bad defenses. He had the lowest drop rate of all the QBs in the draft. Guys like Josh Allen never succeed in the modern NFL. Just ask Jake Locker, EJ Manuel, Kyle Boller, Blaine Gabbert, Josh Freeman or Akili Smith. We just drafted a less accurate version of Blake Bortles.

Google "Josh Allen Bust". There's hours and hours of material you can read about how he has next to no hope of being successful.

Every advanced analytics study says he's going to be a colossal bust. I'm not going to plug my nose and pretend this was a good pick. Josh Allen was a mediocre QB in the Mountain West Conference. Given how hard it is to find a franchise QB in the NFL, that's not the type of guy you want to bet on with a 1st round pick. Accuracy and decision making are the most important traits when it comes to QB prospects, and Allen doesn't cut it in either of those areas. This is a guy who isn't remotely ready to perform on an NFL field. It literally might never materialize (see Christian Hackenberg - another big, strong, mobile QB with a big arm who is about to be out of the NFL after two years).

How many sub 58% guys have worked out over the past 20 years? Matt Stafford is literally the only one and he completed 61% of his throws his final year. Like Josh Allen - 27 QBs with a negative QBASE score have been picked in the top 100 picks over the past 20 years. Not a single one of them has turned into a franchise QB.

Accuracy issues literally have no history of "getting worked out" over the past 20 years. EJ Manuel, Jake Locker, Kyle Boller, JP Losman, Akili Smith, Josh Freeman. Not a single one of them fixed their accuracy problems.

And his downside is Kyle Boller.

Mahomes was a better prospect. Exponentially better college production, better accuracy, more moxy. List any trait except height, and Mahomes did it better than Allen.

Major accuracy issues are never correctable. Not in 25 years has it happened.

This is a phenomenal pick.

He might not be ready to play ever, and I'm not joking. Josh Allen is no where close to being ready to play NFL football.

Disaster. Mediocre college QBs have no history of success in the NFL over the past 20 years. You can't teach an inaccurate QB how to throw accurately at the NFL level.

Great answer. If Mahomes was a "2nd round prospect", and he does everything better than Allen, what's that tell you about Allen? If he wasn't 6'5, 235, he'd be nothing more than a late round pick.

I don't buy it. Giants trying to pressure us into trading up. We're bidding against ourselves. What does Josh Allen do better than Pat Mahomes? Nothing.

Agreed. Everyone in the NFL knows we desperately need a QB. Not a good spot to be in.

In what way? Both were raw with poor mechanics. Both have mobility. Both have enormous arms. Both are "projects" who need at least a year. One actually produced in college. Mahomes is a better version of Josh Allen. There's nothing Allen does better on the football field than Pat Mahomes did as a prospect.

Doesn't make any sense. If we didn't like Mahomes last year, what's there to like with Allen? Mahomes was a better prospect.

Serious question: has Steve Fairchild ever coached a quality QB?