Chis is a tongue-in-cheek reference to Chis farley and me being the same. And, he is a scoundrel. Agree with you 100%. No need to free Irv. It is too much work. I just read through a thread about something similar with a former? poster, Deranged Rhino. Although I am not familiar with him/her - didn't seem to help. It's their sandbox. They can do what they want if they disagree with your politics.