YattaOkasan
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5 hours ago, Gugny said:
White wasn’t rushed. He took forever to get back on the field and was horrible when he returned.You need to define terrible. Cause he allowed a passer rating of 75 in 2022. He wasn’t as good as he was in all pro year or 2021 but he was comparable to his rookie season and 2020. Better throw some respect on that name.
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2 hours ago, Billsfanatixs said:
The thought I had, which will never happen is. I think we should try moving Dawkins to right tackle. I'm supremely aware of why left tackle is where you want your best tackle.
I would say for the Bills, right tackle is most important. Until Josh becomes a high percentage "Pocket Passer" it will continue to be the most challenging spot on line.
Josh never sticks around long enough for a right end to nab him.
Hard to argue if you think about it
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Why is right tackle more important? Do you have any pressure vs QB rating stats? If it’s just feels, then I feel pressure from the right is much less important than from the left as I’ve seen JA17 make more incredible plays to his right than left.
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I don’t mind replacing him but can we all agree that if he gets 6.5 sacks again on limited snaps he’ll get a second contract with someone? I don’t know that he ever becomes DE1 but I still see starter in his realizable ceiling.
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1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:
Again, what team has been to a SB and back to back NFCCG (3 total including the 2019 SB year)? Behind a dominant defense that actually performs in games that matter without a legit franchise QB.
You really think Beane/McD are better because of their overall W/L record in the regular season?? If that's the case Marty Schottenheimer is the best coach in NFL history as well.
Switch the teams (division and conference) and tell me niners have the same postseason success with the Chiefs in the division. Also of note only the chiefs and bills have been to the playoffs and won a game each of the last three seasons. If anything we have been very consistent of late after a slow start with McBeane
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3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:
If you are talking about overall W/L record great, I'm talking about being able to advance past the divisional round and compete for SB's consistently which is what matters (at least to me anyway) and a big reason for this is they have a defense that actually performs in the playoffs and not just the regular season.
Playoffs are specifically against your conference of which the AFC has been better the past few years. I certainly think we get to the championship game more frequently if we are in the other conference and the niners are in this conference.
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8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:
Let's see, in regards to the 49ers they've just been to back to back NFC Championships and a SB appearance in 2019 that they had a 10 point lead late in the game before the legend of Mahomes emerged in the end. Mind you all of this has been accomplished with below average to average QB play.
Looking at the Bills, the current regimes success has been tied to getting stupid lucky with the JA17 pick. Take him out of the equation and this regime is already long gone and no different from their predecessors.
Bottom line...the 49ers have a great GM and HC whose just can't seem to solve the QB position but have been suburb everywhere else. And yes I would also fire McD and hire Shanahan without thinking twice about it if that were ever an option.
Now tell me how many super bowls we wouldve made if we were in the NFC? I think 2020 and 2021 the NFC was pretty weak and we would have had much easier roads (also of note: teams that beat us lose the next week pretty consistently).
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This thread is weird. Not looking through it all. Over the cap has a very different number with 6 mil available. Beane likely has different number. Also were very unlikely to cut guys with big dead cap like Poona Ford or Mitch Morse. What are we doing here? They may extend Jones but I think they dont need to do much.
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Thoughts on Ferguson being the guy cut to stand in the parking lot for a couple minutes while they put someone on IR? He’s a vet so no waivers. No dead cap. And I think they’ve done it with him before.
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51 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:
But why are they locks? They are certainly not very proven. Shakir in particular isn't. Harty is a proven special teams player and Sherfield had 30 catches last year. I'm arguing that we are over-rating Harty, Sherfield and Shakir. Harty has 64 NFL catches over 4 years, Sherfield has 67 over 5 years and Shakir has 10 in 1 year. Does that scream "proven"?
Please don't interpret this to mean that I think they are horrible. I am only saying that they are really not proven, so why would they be considered "locks" to make the roster?
Sherfield is a proven ST player as well as blocker. He doesnt have huge receiving production at WR (though 400+ yards last year in Miami is nice) but a lot of that seems to because he hasnt gotten the reps (last year was the first year with more than 350 snaps). So the things hes proven in are not things that come across in a box score.
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1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:
That’s because of Allen if you want to see a horror show replay the Bengals game. They practically lived in the Bills backfield.
Agree that they performed worse as the season went on, but those metrics are agnostic to Allen's escapability. He was pressured as a low percent per drop back. Additionally to the point about performing worse as the season went, the passing attack became more predictable as a vertical passing attack post injury. Bengals game was super bad, but overall pro football reference says he got pressured at lower rate than most QBs (#5)
1 hour ago, JayBaller10 said:The line also looks better when Josh gets the ball out of his hand fast, like in the first game against the Rams. We know he tends to hold onto it which makes the unit look worse. There were times last year where he had seemingly all day to throw, but with that being said, a performance like Saffold had against the Bengals was inexcusable. They have to at least be able to impede their assignment for 2.5 seconds.
Agree Bengals was inexcusable and just generally was our worst game of the year. However, if your expectation is that Allen gets 2.5 seconds on average to throw the ball. Then your expectation was met. Many other QBs had less time in the pocket (maybe cause they threw it faster). I think the pressure % and pkt time tell a very different narrative than whats being said about the OL last year (again Saffold, didnt meet the expectation).
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1 hour ago, The Wiz said:
Understatement of the year.
There's a reason why Allen was the highest rated passer when he was pressured. Because he was always pressured.
At least one site disagrees with your thoughts on pressure. Pro football reference has him as 5th lowest for Pressure % and 6th for pocket time. The line def got worse as the season went along and wasnt what i had expected but I think it was better than 2021. I know you dont say it here (but you sorta imply it), but folks talking like we are the worst line in the league while being the number 2 scoring offense.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/passing_advanced.htm
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3 minutes ago, SoMAn said:
With 12 personnel they still use 5 linemen. TE doesn’t take the place of an OT.
Yes but they may not need to send Knox on a route as often considering Kincaid has shown such an ability to get separation. Or Knox can release later after chipping. TE doesnt take the place of OT but TE blocking is an option that gets used if you dont trust your OT.
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6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
I wrote off Bernard before he was drafted. He isn't built to play MLB in the NFL and was abysmally bad last season.
Knox is a strawman argument, but no I'm not "high" on him either. He's average, but nothing special at all.
You could only think Williams and Simpson are the same if you knew absolutely nothing about them.They are only not the same in your evaluation. at this point having not played a game in the NFL and being drafted in similar spots i think its fair to treat them similarly. The knox question was getting to your ability to evaluate. I dont see any reason to trust your evaluation at this point over the staff that found/developed Luke Kuechly, Matt Milano, Tremaine Edmunds (are there any misses really for Beane/McD at LB?).
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1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:
Yes to both. He was a good enough prospect that you could make a case for either pick. If they absolutely had to have Torrence, then you trade up. Based on us having Bates already and virtually nothing at MLB, I would have taken Simpson right there in the 2nd. If they didn't want to do that, iw ould have moved back up to get him like I mentioned previously.
I like the trade up scenario better, but its still 3rd round Lbs in back to back years with just as much confidence they can be the long term solution. Youre just sore they didnt trade up to get your guy it sounds like. Presumably they like Williams better? LB hasnt been such a problem as OL in terms of our ability to draft or develop talent.
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
The right pick was taking Trenton Simpson when we created a massive hole at the position. Instead the Ravens took him and we all know they have terrible judgement when it comes to front 7 personnel.
So you wanted us to spend our second on him and not O'cyrus Torrence. Cause Simpson went before our 3rd round pick. Or are you saying we shouldve moved up again? youre gonna need to explain more about "taking Trenton Simpson" to make it the right pick cause its not a simple as the Creed Humphrey/Basham situation.
45 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:Halfway through TC, here is the Bills projected 53 man roster
Quarterback: Josh Allen, Kyle Allen, Matt Barkley (3)
Running back: James Cook, Damien Harris, Latavius Murray, Reggie Gilliam (4)
Wide receiver: Stefon Diggs, Gabriel Davis, Khalil Shakir, Deonte Harty, Trent Sherfield, Justin Shorter, Andy Isabella (7)
Tight end: Dawson Knox and Dalton Kincaid (2)
Offensive line: Dion Dawkins, Connor McGovern, Mitch Morse, O’Cyrus Torrence, Spencer Brown, Ryan Bates, David Edwards, Tommy Doyle, Brandon Shell(9)
Defensive Tackles: Ed Oliver, DaQuan Jones, Poona Ford, Tim Settle (4)
Defensive ends: Von Miller, Leonard Floyd, Gregory Rousseau, Boogie Basham, A.J. Epenesa (5)
Linebackers: Matt Milano, Tyrel Dodson,Terrel Bernard, A.J. Klein, Tyler Matakevich, Dorian Williams (6)
Cornerbacks: Tre’Davious White, Taron Johnson, Kaiir Elam, Christina Benford, Siran Neal, Dane Jackson (6)
Safety: Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Taylor Rapp, Damar Hamlin (4)
Special teams: Tyler Bass, Sam Martin, Reid Ferguson
Gilliam is a TE, I think Morris also makes it (why is Isabella not a PS player), AJ Klein to PS for Cam Lewis, Quessenberry over Doyle (at least from reports so far), and probably Von to PUP for one last player (maybe Spector)
38 minutes ago, Beck Water said:zero chance Beane and McDermott keep 7 WR at the expense of only 2 TE (if they expect TE to be a significant part of the offense). Bad idea.
Also zero chance Beane and McDermott keep only 4 DTs, given how strongly he believes in DL rotation.
We ran with 4 DTs last year. And I think this assumes Phillips on the PUP so we get reinforcements eventually. Agree on TE (though Gilliam has been playing with them).
2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:Yea, this isn't really a situation where we can say he wasn't available though, because he slid a lot further than he should have. He could and arguably should have been the pick in the 2nd round or should have been a priority trade up. Instead we have two 3rd round linebackers in back to back years and neither one of them are likely going to be a long term solution at MLB
Thanks for explaining. Strong disagree on Simpson over Torrence. Also surprised youre just writing players off after a year. Assuming you didn't have high thoughts on Knox then. Lastly in your proposed trade up scenario we have two 3rd rd linebackers in back to back years and you liked one of them so thats why you think we have long term solution? Feels much the same but we lose another pick later in the draft.
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2 hours ago, Beck Water said:
They don't need to look at Klein. McDermott knows what Klein's strengths and limitations are in great detail.
Yes but if he was in the competition he would get more reps. Since he’s gotten almost nothing I think he’s vet PS. No one is gonna pick him up so he’s an easy stash.
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1 hour ago, Patrick Duffy said:
I understand wanting to get a closer look at Bernard, that's expected. I'm talking about that report the guy believes it's down to Bernard and Dodson. So I'm wondering why/what it is that gives him that impression? Is it only due to today that McD decided it was time to get a closer look?
Now that today Bernard is getting some extra reps so McD gets a closer look, from that he gets that it's down to Bernard and Dodson?
Primarily due to what McD said about closer look, but many people have been thinking its down to Bernard/Dodson since Spectors rotation was skipped at the last practice. Scrimmage and coming days will be telling but I wouldnt be surprised if Spector has fallen out of the competition since the other two guys started games last year and Spector got very few snaps at LB (Steelers game only iirc).
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1 minute ago, Patrick Duffy said:
Wonder why he thinks Bernard? Didn't know Bernard has been better than Spector/Klein. If a RB that has some size would knock him 5 yards back and run him over like a truck if he meets Bernard up the middle.
Its based off of McD's comments. He was asked why they didnt rotate Spector in. He said they wanted to look closer at Bernard and Tdot. I have not heard Klein doing anything and he seems to be meeting my expectation of vet on the PS. Spector seems to have more juice than I expected but I will be surprised if he gets the MLB job.
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18 minutes ago, Son of a K-Gun said:
Do we get to boo the practice refs?
Everyone needs to practice. Get the vocal chords into midseason form
11 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:Awesome 3rd round pick on a guy that will probably be a healthy scratch the entire year. What a waste. Should have been a DE, DT, or OT.
Why do you think he'll be a healthy scratch? I expect him to have a lot of ST reps which should be enough value to get him a jersey on game day.
On the Elam issue, I think the coaches are just making him earn it and know its not handed to him. To expand, the coaches love players that have been challenged in their careers. I suspect they think its important to have that resilient in the face adversity trait. Elam has not really been challenged in that way in his career. Son of an NFL player thats a 5 star recruit that goes to the SEC and plays right away. Hopeful this is the case because Elam has still been getting a lot of reps with the first team and at the end of the year was the CB2 they went with. I think this offseason they want to challenge him and see him rise to it before having him take over.
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4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Way too early for this I would say...they are not going to hand Elam the job, so not a surprise he didn't enter camp as the default guy opposite Tre. Lot of football left before they decide who starts and doesn't. This time of year all kinds of guys can look great or look behind, but it all changes when the real football begins to shape everyone out.
I still think Elam has a good shot to win the job, but he is going to need to earn it because Dane and Benford are no slouch. And once you are drafted, your draft slot means nothing, its all about what you do on the field. Doesn't matter if the best players comes from an UDFA or a first round pick, just matters who is playing the best and most ready to help us win games.
I agree I think he has to earn and more so than other players. 5 star recruit I believe playing in the SEC. Would surprise me if McD felt he had to teach him a bit. I’m hopeful because when push came to shove in the playoffs they went with Elam.
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4 hours ago, Doc said:
I hope they give Bates a shot with the 1st team at center.
I don’t. I think continuity is important on the OLine. Let morse, our starter, get as many reps with two new guys next to him. I get your reasoning but you’re thinking too far out.
1 hour ago, The Wiz said:No one has seemed to mention this throw was over Hyde!!!! Not the MLB or some other dude but Micah freaking Hyde (one of the best deep ball defenders in the league). Motioning Cook wide in 12 personnel is gonna be deadly
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1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Agree. Its a good thing if all are capable starters. Perhaps Benford is moved to safety next year if Hyde is not brought back.
And this of course assumes White is back to form. He was really bad last year. They will start him no matter how poorly he is playing would be my guess.
Define really bad. He had a QBR of 75.8 against his coverage last year (between Kenny Pickett and Zach Wilson level of play, the worst two QBs by QBR). That is up from 2021 (59.9) and his all pro year in 2018 (43.3) but not different than his rookie year or 2020. Even in a "down" year he was still good. They will start him cause hes always good and thats when HE is playing poor. From the improvement we saw every game last year and what weve heard from this year I expect him to have a better year than last.
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45 minutes ago, BananaB said:
You do realize at one point last season we had a CB rotation last year. When have you ever seen that in the NFL? Just put the kid on the field and let him play, stop ***** babying him ffs. If he don’t got it we’ll know shortly. One thing we do know is Dane doesn’t have it.
It makes no sense at this point.
CB rotations, while not common, are a McD staple. Gaines, Johnson, Norman all rotated with Levi if i remember correctly. That said I would like to see more Elam, I agree with many others that he has shown more when out there. I dont know what it is but Dane is fine and would be a starting CB for many teams in the league.
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10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
I mean yes, but during the days when the Bills WR were John Brown, Cole Beasley, and Isaiah McKenzie, physical press man teams just mugged them in press man, and took them away. A small guy can play bigger than his size, and a big guy won't necessarily play physically enough, but other things being equal, size does matter.***
***obligatory "That's What She Said"
Have heard Harty has a good release package (which aligns with this production on the outside in NO). So yes all things equal (including release package) size matters, but Harty doesnt come in equal it appears.
1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:He’s been a JAG the entirety of his career… why all of a sudden will that change now?
All good though. People fall for this stuff every May/June/July/August and reality hits in September.
Maybe different definitions of JAGs? Sherfield has been a rosterable player for years (never been cut) but hasnt been a game changer. If thats a JAG for you then I agree. I dont consider that a JAG and I dont think these reports are pumping him up to be the next Diggs but rather looking to be another weapon.
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[Name Only Title] AJE (future)
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Sure what he’s shown so far is not enough to be a starter and you would want to upgrade. but I think he’s got a bit of growth he can achieve.
Showing flashes is what will he get him a contract though. I wouldn’t scoff at 6.5 sacks. Additionally he has not shown that level of production before for so long. Agree he had some great games and then disappeared for a most the season. He’s now registering more good games as he gets more consistent.