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Yup, I said that alone doesn’t guarantee him a spot. But I recall fewer reports of Howard with the ones (also no history with the team). Do you not agree contract plus run with the ones means more? Why is Dane on the practice squad not helping? he’s in the room when on the PS and he’s available for call up twice and can be signed if needed cause of injury. They are familiar with both players and made a clear preference choice over the years. Not sure why youre resisting the idea that white is ahead of Jackson cause white is running with the ones, has more guaranteed money, and both players are well known to staff? I get that it’s June and things can change but you got to admit there’s a clear preference towards white over Jackson at this time (I haven’t seen reports of Jackson doing much of anything)

They also guaranteed 2.2 mil. That alone also doesn’t mean he makes the team. But in combination with him running with the ones it starts to mean more. Heck if Dane out performs him you probably can still stash Dane on the PS and call him up for 2 games and save 1.5 mil on the cap.

Thats a good example but I think the pertinent context is that there was an injury to the preferred starter (TB). I think open competitions are sort of a different story than what were discussing with regard to CB. Yes its a competition but its not nearly as open as MLB was. I have not seen any reports suggesting that anyone but Benford, White, and Hairston have played first team CB. To note I dont think White gets the starter job but I think its more likely than not that he makes the team because hes running with the first team. I agree if he stops running with the ones then hes roster spot would be in jeopardy. But if he keeps playing poorly with the ones all through camp and gets no reps with the twos I think he makes the team. Is this your position too? If your position is its too early to know then I agree. If forced to put money down I would say he makes the team cause hes playing with the ones rather than saying hes getting cut because hes playing poorly.

Moore has been running with the ones. Super excited for him cause his plays are in throws from Josh. I don’t think I’ve seen a single Moore from white tweet. White is QB2 at the moment which is pretty telling for Mitch and his contract. I would say history favors who you’re playing with versus the plays you’re making. Zach Davidson was making all the splash plays last camp (and OTAs) while Q morris continued to be core 4 ST starter. Last preseason game and Q morris with the hat on chilling and Davidson still making splash plays. Playing with the ones on ST was better than the flash Davidson showed. Can you give me an example of someone playing with the ones and then being cut? I gave you a relevant one that shows who with matters more than what.

Im putting more stock in the fact that hes running with the ones more than I am that hes getting toasted. Given his experience with the team its maybe not too surprising. However, I think who hes running with tells me he has a better chance of making the 53 than Dane and JaMarcus who also have experience with the team. Hes already ahead of them on the depth chart (and i dont see reports of them getting any first team reps). I still think he makes the 53 but is game day inactive (Kair treatment from last year; starting or no jersey cause no ST).

I apologize for my future use of Spencer Hawes to refer to Jackson Hawes

Were in camp? its OTAs and they said no risk to camp. Im not sure they even care about OTAs as they often (last year excluded) give them the last day off. Agree he needs all the time on task he can get but pushing him now might impact reps during TC which are far more important.

Coleman doesn't have YAC? Shakir averaged 7.9 YAC and Coleman averaged 7.4. I was very pleased with his ability to break tackles (4 broken tackles on 29 receptions is >>> shakirs 6 on 76). Why do you think we need 3 receivers too? what teams have 3 receivers in this manner. 2 I get and I can understand saying we don't have that but 3 is a lot. Do they have to be WR? Per Joe Marino our efficiency to RBs was super high; additionally, there is plenty of reason to think Kincaid can have a big season. I don't know that well have 3 dynamic WR but I could see 3 dynamic pass catchers (Shakir, Kincaid, Coleman/Palmer) with a game plan specific player involved as well (RBs on LBs, Knox on Safeties, Samuel/Moore).

I like (as Joe Marino has said) that he brings a different rush skill set than the other DEs. He does seem to get pushed around in the run game so thats probably the biggest thing holding him back. His pressure rate was good so def some upside. With his ST ability I think he makes the roster and gets a game day jersey. If he can contribute to defense will depend on either game script (forcing teams to be one dimensional pass only) or greatly improving his run defense.

I agree with your general sentiment cause he’s so important to the defense. But would also note I’m fine with tarons snaps to come down a little to load manage him some. Especially against run heavy teams. With his importance and age I grimace when I see him take on a block from Ricard. Not because I worry he’s gonna get blown out of the hole but rather cause he’ll get injured standing his ground. I want him full health for the playoffs and he’s getting on in years. To answer your question for who, Dorian or hoecht are the two answers for me against 13 or 22 packages that we’ll see.

He was open a lot. Probably a good spot to start eating crow when i said mid-season that there wasnt anything wrong with the Allen-Kincaid connection. Clearly there was. Hopefully they get it resolved. He also had a really good rookie season.

I can look at targets as a safety later today but should be all available in Pro Football Reference. My challenge is that the target might not always be well assigned. Like he made the tackle but someone else blew the assignment (and vice versa). This happened both ways in the Jets game, but I understand. In the Jets game he was targeted 5 times with 3 completions. They were all relatively long completions so with a hail mary that makes his QBR ugly for the game.

Such a weird game. Poor plan for Garret Wilson which Rapp is part of; Poor FG kicking; poor flags thrown; Hail Mary which Rapp is the one at the catch point; but two TD saving plays (one shoe lace run stop and one PBU); also some poor angles on Hall. So yes he had 2 game saving plays but part of that is cause he didnt stop a hail mary and the safeties overall were giving up chunks plays. I'm not giving him a fantastic for that game.

He made a lot of TD saving plays through contacting receiver or shoe string tackles on run plays (his missed tackle % of 2.4% is awesome). But overall his coverage left a lot to be desired. QBR of 109 when targeted is not inspiring a lot of confidence (thats with the pass breakups included). 10.9 yards per target is super rough. We struggled when he wasnt there cause we didnt have the defense set well. Hope is that Bishop has learned everything that Rapp knows and can apply it cause I expect better secondary play then 109 QBR.

The reasons you listed are fair for why Lewis might not find a team. And your point on coverage is also very important which is why Strong and Hancock definitely feel like locks, as I expect both their experience and athleticism make them better teams players than who we rolled out last year. I think were in agreement on Codrington too but cant quite tell.