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I don't want Peterman to equal that production, I want him to exceed it. Question to me is whether he's ready to do either. I look at Yates as a short-term insurance policy. Ideally Peterman moves past Yates on the depth chart quickly, but the kid is a late rounder who's never been to camp. I have no particular love for Yates but having a vet with a playoff win under his belt as a care-taker is fine with me.

I don't think its about protecting against a prolonged or season-ending injury, it's having a guy with experience to fill in for a game or two and hopefully get a win.

Perhaps it's time to change your display name.

Which teams have tanked and become a juggernaut?

Sounds like spin cycle to me. I'll be interested in listening to Rex's comments this year on any team except Bills and Jets.

Lynn suffered through 3 quarters of EJ instead of giving CJ the second half in game 16. Doubt he'll ever pan out but I guess Lynn prefers the project he knows instead of the project he doesn't know.

That's pretty good. Would a team tank the season if they knew that coming in last only game them a 50% chance at the #1? I wonder what the threshold would be.

Has there been a team that tanked and became a perennial contender as a result? The Colts tried to and got Luck, but how far has that taken them? I don't remember tank jobs resulting in a dominant team with Brady, Rodgers, Ben,... Maybe Peyton, but I don't recall talk about that being a tank job. No matter what system you come up with there will be some team trying to game it. With that said, the weighted lotto makes the most sense to me...up until a top 4 team lands a top 4 pick.

I resisted the temptation to start a thread with that title.

Minus the extra two games, I've been saying this for the past few years. I would have no problem starting the regular season a week or two later. Football is a cold weather sport to me. I think I suggested the Presidents weekend SB once on this board and was told not to drink so much during the Super Bowl. Sigh.

I don't own any classical music but I appreciate well played music when I hear it. My kids are in the middle school range and play band instruments and while I much prefer jazz band there was a concert this year where I told wifey that I thought the orchestra was the most enjoyable.

I became a huge JJ fan based solely on the Curious George soundtrack. I've bought everything he puts out ever since. BTW, he is overdue. When I saw him play Upside Down live it brought a tear to my eye thinking of my kids (couples night out). I associate a lot of fond memories of my life with JJ songs. I make slide shows and DVDs for family vacations and JJ songs are often the background music. I've shed a tear on many occasions with songs like Better Together as the background to great memories, First slideshow I ever were made was to Upside Down and my kids at Sesame Place. Putting JJ aside, I was recently at Wrigley Field for a Cubs game and shed a tear at the 7th inning stretch when they did the Harry Caray "Take Me Out To The Ball Game" tribute. It was my first game at Wrigley having watched games on TV since my youth.

As Good As It Gets

My happy ending story: I was vaguely aware of a band named Metallica after reading a review by Jon Zazula in a crude black and white publication from my local metal record store. At a camp site with friends on a Friday night, we got graciously kicked out by state troopers without repercussions around midnight for our behavior and things in our possession. On the way home trying to figure out where we would sleep the rest of the night we heard on the radio that Raven (an English band we were familiar with) were playing with Metallica the next night. I told my metal friend we should go based on the review i read. The shorter story: we saw Metallica in a small, empty bar a week before Kill 'Em All came out and it was jaw dropping.

This got an audible laugh out of me. My go to is the boring but outstanding French Dip. Serious question: how does French Dip differ from Beef on Weck? They sound similar to me.

Whatever you do, I'm sure you and your son will have a great time. Another thing to consider if you haven't done it already is the Blue Man Group. It's pricy but worth it. Saw it 14+ years ago wth wife-to-be and again last year with the whole fam. Loved it both times. It started in a tiny theater in NYC and is still in the same place. It expanded to a bunch of other cities so it's not as novel as it once was, but definitely something to consider either this year or in the future.

Did you ever listen to the Heroin Diaries by Sixx A.M.? It's all about that era. There was a book by the same name. It was pretty cool to read his entries around the days that I saw them.

Not sure if this passes the "actual experience" sniff test, but my sister said this place was pretty cool: http://trailerparklounge.com/home.asp I think she told me her friend ordered champagne in a can. I had a nice meal (and way too many drinks) at this place which isn't too far from where you are staying: http://www.cowgirlseahorse.com I've seen some cool street performers at Washington Square park...I imagine any NY parks would have the same. Since you're downtown you may as well walk over to Battery Park. If you're hungry after the 9/11 memorial you can go across the street to Brookfield Place. They have a big food court, grab what you want and eat outside.

I was thinking the same thing. No need to split hairs (haha) on this. Great band, great album no matter how we choose to classify them.

I hear ya, but when I think of hair bands I'm thinking of bands like Poison, Ratt,, Extreme and Motley (once they hit mainstream). Musically it was closer to pop than metal to my ears. Axl teased his hair to the moon on Appetite because he had to, but musically they had nothng to do with the hair bands. Just my opinion.

Appetite came out in 1987 and took some time to get traction, so by no means did GNR define rock and roll in the 80s. From my perspective, that decade was dominated by MTV "bands/songs" and metal/hair bands. With that said, GNR kicked a## and paved the way for the grunge bands in the early 90's.

As best as I can tell, teens of any generation prefer not to associate with the music of their parents, so from a popularity standpoint, no there will never be another G and R or Metallica. At the same time rock isn't dead. There are still rock bands putting out great music and touring, they just appeal less to the younger generation. Magpie Salute might be worth checking out if you're into bands like the Stones, Led Zep and (mostly) the Black Crowes.

Cool that you had an uncomfortable situation made less uncomfortable because you're a Bills fan. So what made you a Bills fan?

Well put. What a depressing story. An eye for an eye is an understandable first reaction but just perpetuates the wrong.

So you work the lock by Navy Pier? I was in Chicago recently and went thru on a Sea Dog cruise Saturday after the 4th. I had no idea there was a even a lock there til that day.