The Frankish Reich

So no limits on 2nd Amendment rights means everyone at a Trump (or other) campaign rally may bring in one or more firearms. You really think this is what the 2nd Amendment means?

So after this assassination, do we agree that: - It would make sense to make public assembly areas like this one at UVU gun-free zones? - It would make sense to have security checks before entering a public assembly featuring a political speaker? A controversial political speaker? - It would make sense to have a drone in addition to cameras to make sure that no one has brought a gun into the immediate vicinity? We seem to all agree that there is some limit to 2nd Amendment rights. Does anyone think it is a good idea to have open/concealed carry in a forum where the President is speaking? So what is the limit? Someone adjudicated mentally ill should be prohibited from possessing a firearm, right? And I understand that some on the right thing trans people are per se mentally ill, so it would extend to them, right? What about the lover/spouse/partner of a trans person? So what is the limit?

Despicable act, but some here are getting a bit carried away with the St. Charlie thing. I would never call for political violence, and I never thought there was anything amusing about a man trying to kill Nancy Pelosi with a hammer and instead almost killing her husband with a hammer.

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I could explain why this is a better constructed joke headline, but you know what they say about explaining a joke.

I guess it's a common name?

Sounds eerily like the National Socialist parties of days of yore.

Actually, you can live perfectly fine with that. You choose not to coexist with that.

I don't know other than I kind of read right through some of the non-alleged "fact" stuff.

How do you know that?

It goes back to the Long Island thing for the Jets, even though that ended decades ago. You beat me to it. Jets = Queens/Long Island. Giants = Manhattan, Westchester, Connecticut.

And everyone here is comfortable with calling Kamala a communist.

/ / / / / / / / / / No surprise that the author doesn't comprehend sarcasm.

Well, in the world of social media, yes, it is fringe. Certainly not everything there is fringe (a lot of people belong to rather mundane online communities), but it is pretty niche overall.

And that's what's key: if he was truly "acting on his own" (even if inspired by some online haters), well, then it's sadly what we see all the time. Acting with he actual assistance of someone or someones else? That's a big deal.

The facts as we more or less know them: - young male, raised in conservative Mormon family in conservative Mormon area (around St. George, a pleasant retirment-oriented community) - son of a local law enforcement officer. Brought up around guns and hunting, which is not at all unusual, particularly in this part of the country - active on Discord. What forums, who knows. But likely involved in some fringe beliefs. - engraved ammo with some political messages, one clearly anti-"fascist," others difficult to interpret (sarcasm? true belief? who knows) Although he escaped, he seemed to know that he'd be caught. Wore the same clothes home. Confessed to family. Didn't want to go down in a blaze of glory. The rest is pure speculation.

In other words: according to some observers, he has exhibited signs of having had transient ischemic attacks, a/k/a "mini-strokes." Quite a different thing than a massive stroke that leads to permanent or long-lasting speech problems.

I've gone back and forth on this in my lifetime. I am now at the point where I think the death penalty is justified in some cases: clear and obvious guilt (that is, something even higher than beyond a reasonable doubt), plus evidence of some serious aggravating circumstance. That would include a political assassination, like this one.

Horseshoe theory rears its ugly head again. Far right, far left ... who can even tell anymore? Just far out of the mainstream is all I know.

In their haste to make this a left wing/right wing thing, people are missing the forest for the trees. Early reports say this killer was heavily involved in Discord chats. I don't know what those were, but I don't think you need to be a conspiracy theorist to assume that whatever it was, it was fringey and likely espoused violence. We don't really know what "philosophy" (a far too grand a word for these guys) he espoused, but I'll take a wild guess that it was anti-Charlie Kirk. On the same day we had the Colorado Evergreen shooter. Guess what? An avid participant in fringey internet chat groups. It seems that he was more into the anti-semitic corners of the internet and so-called groyper culture. Whatever. They're both damaged.

You have learned nothing. Sad!

Let's call the congressional resolution for releasing everything "The Charlie Kirk Act." By the way: some really creepy sh!t in that Birthday Book! It's almost as if everyone invited to submit something thought it was one big joke that Epstein diddled 14 year old girls.

Edgy! But some friendly advice: the "transitioning" line would work if the thread accused someone of being, you know, trans. So for the joke to work, you needed to go with something like "before he came out of the closet as Homelander." See ... edgy AND well written! Keep working on it. And don't mix those metaphors. Your humor editor, TFR

/ / / / / / / / Redditors are kind of like our mods. The discussion belongs in r/crime or r/Charlotte or r/whateverelse. It isn't an r/GenZ story, and they try to stop people with an agenda from hijacking every single thread. That's why Tarheel loves it here. No moderation to speak of, so he can create half a dozen topics to chat with himself.

I wasn't really his audience, neither a fellow traveler nor a shut-him-up anti-free speecher. A lot of people I respect have said nice things about him as a person, and I have no reason to doubt that. As a father, looking at the family photos is just jarring to me. RIP.