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I do wonder what they would want for Carr. While he's not a great QB by any means, he is WAY better than anything we have. A guy like him would allow Allen to take a step back for a bit and develop. His price tag is high, though. He's not the perfect QB for us, but I would kick the tires to see what it may take.

ig: josinaanderson‏Verified account @JosinaAnderson Breaking: A source tells me that WR Amari Cooper will be traded to the Dallas #Cowboys. I will be very interested to see the compensation. He's a guy that had a couple great years and has battled the ball a bit recently. Still super young and talented. Depending on the price, he's a guy that I would have wanted the Bills to look at. UPDATE: Traded straight up for a 1st Round Pick in 2019. I like Cooper, but not for that price........

Winning games didn't mean much to me either this year. What did matter is the rookie QB's development no matter who it was. But to go into this year thinking Peterman was going to be good enough to get you through the year is a tragic fatal flaw in anyone's plan, especially to the guys that run the team. There is no way that should have even been a thought and that is nothing more than another strike against the organization and another reason why they shouldn't have anyone's faith to figure this out in the next 2 years.

And it is a good first step, although some will argue that they didn't pick the right guy. It's too early to say that for sure, but as of now, it isn't exactly promising yet. But regardless, you have to be able to help your young QB and all that they have done is hinder him. They took away all his weapons. They are playing him well before he is ready to be on the field. They have no real QB coach. They had no veteran QB ahead of him to learn from until a week and a half ago. The list of failures on offense is astounding. So yeah......how can anyone have faith at this point that they will get it right? They have not done 1 thing right on the offensive side of the ball, the most important side of the ball, since they have come in.

Not changing my argument at all. I said they are operating under the premise that defense and running win. They can talk about a QB driven league being the way to go all they want, but to this point, they haven't shown they believe that. Outside of Allen and a couple of late round flyers, the draft was all about defense. Their free agents were all about defense. They let all of their average to above average offensive talent go. Any offensive player they have brought in have been busts (jury still out on Allen). I am asking them to prove it to me that they believe offense and scoring points is the way to win in the NFL, not just talk about it. To this point, all they have done is talk about the QB being important. Who cares...... show me you mean it and that you know how to and can do it. This whole topic is about your confidence level in the organization and their chances of being successful in the next 2-3 years. I am saying there is no way, to this point, you can be confident in them being successful because they haven't proven they recognize the way to win in this league is through offense and scoring a lot of points. Everything they have done to this point has been the opposite. They shouldn't have forever to figure it out. If they put up 1-2 more seasons scoring at the bottom of the league, they won't (shouldn't) be here. And they are so far away from a good offense it's a joke. Don't talk about it, be about it. And to this point, they have shown zero signs of knowing what it takes to win on a regular basis in this league. Until they do, how can anyone be confident?

He litterally said it today: WGR 550‏Verified account @WGR550 6h6 hours ago McDermott - I'd love to score 50 points, that'd allow me to sleep a lot easier. Balance is key, but you want to be able to attack the weakness of the defense. Where we live in Buffalo, you want to be able to be physical and run the football. This is the type of antiquated thinking that will get you blown out by real teams. The idea that you have to run the football because we are in Buffalo is insane. New England, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Philadelphia, etc. etc....... All cold, bad weather cities that realized a long time ago that you throw the ball to win. I am tired of hearing coaches say that you have to win by running the ball because we live in Buffalo. It is dumb and untrue. Heck, even the 90's Bills threw the ball a ton (at the time) in Buffalo and didn't have a problem scoring points. We don't have a QB. We don't have weapons. The trades and picks we have made for offensive players have all been terrible (Allen excluded because it is too early). Show me 1 time that they have identified a great offensive player that has contributed to our team. Show me 1 bit of proof they know what offensive talent looks like. I'll wait, but not too long because there is no answer. You can have blind faith that they can figure out the offense. But I haven't seen 1 example to show me, or anyone else for that matter, that they know what a good offensive player looks like. The only decent offensive talent they had on their team they traded away or let go and now they are contributing to other teams. Name the 1 guy they have brought in on offense that has made us better. They can talk about it being a QB driven league all they want. That is an obviously fundamental statement that the entire NFL knows. It's about walking the walk and not talking the talk. Right now our offense is worse than offenses that played on the 30's and 40's. How long do you think they get to crawls out of the stone age on offense? This league is about what have you done for me lately...... They don't have forever to get it right.

Every single time they talk, they go on and on about how important it is to get the running game going. They talk about having to be great on defense to stay in games. They have repeatedly said that defense and running the ball is the basis of any offense. That is old-time football! Their entire goal is to keep the games low scoring and win a close game. Look around the league! You win by throwing the football all over the field and occasionally throw in a run here and there. I guarantee you that McDermott will never want to win games by throwing the ball 35-45 times every game.

In order to be successful in the NFL in 2018 (and going forward), you have to understand how to build and run a high powered scoring offense. Not only have both of them shown zero signs to this point to be able to identify offensive talent, but they are actually still operating under the premise that defense and running the ball is the foundation of being a successful team. I'm sorry, but until they prove that they can find 1 great offensive player, my faith is not high in this organization. They have to prove that they can build an offense that can score 25-30 points a game. That's not going to be easy for a coaching staff that has no clue what wins in the NFL today. And, by the time they figure that out, it might be too late because you can only get blown out so many times before you get fired. And McDermott has already been blown out in half of his losses.

4th and 4.....up 35..... Yeah.....go for it!! Must be nice.

I have seen more creativity in this Chiefs drive (up by 35) than the Bills have shown all season. They, along with just about the rest of the NFL, are playing a completely different sport.

That "Golbetrotters" video package they just did for the Chiefs basically summed up everything the Bills offense is not in 20 seconds.

Downright depressing watching the Chiefs. Yet another TD pass from a guy, who many of us wanted to draft last year, to a wide open WR. The Chiefs could stop playing this week and the Bills still won't equal their offensive output that they have already put up this season by the end of the season.

Yeah....it was the Kings, not San Jose as well. But whatever..... It was a great trip for the team.

I know that was the score of the game tonight. 3-2 was their record on the road trip.

UPDATED: The Sabres have surpassed the Bills offensive output for the day (4 goals to 3 points) and have won their game. 3-2 on a tough road trip is a great result. This was their best game, start to finish, in a while.

On a side note, the Sabres have now equaled the output of the Bills offense tonight.......

Watching the Chiefs and Rams play offense every week is just depressing. They have guys running wide open every single play. I mean, I don't want to take anything away from Mahomes and Goff. They are good. But any NFL QB that has that amount of time to throw, to guys that are completely uncovered, are going to play well.

Thread title: Brady Says "Bills Mafia Here We Come" Bills Mafia says: "Fine.....we're thinking about staying home, saving a few bucks and not watching...." Cheaper and easier to drown your sorrows in beer from the couch!

So.....over/under a quarter and a half before both teams pass our entire offensive output today? EDIT: Not points, of course. Both teams will probably pass our point total on their first drive.

On purpose anyway...... But it will definitely look like a tank because they are just that bad, especially on offense.

Going to be a lot of empty stadiums in the second half of the year. Really embarrassing. This franchise is pathetic. I mean, the Patriots* are going to put 60 on us in front of the world next week. I would give anything if there was a way to get flexed out of that spot so we could get sparred the humiliation. But, I guess on the other hand, if we do get embarrassed on national TV in front of the world, then maybe the front office will realize how terrible they really are. They deserve to be embarrassed for the crap they have put on the field this season.

I know they have been caught a couple times, but I love the rub plays the Colts are running. They know the refs won't call it every time, so they use that to their advantage. Wish we used them more. Easy way to create separation.

Guess the old 2nd Half thread gave up. Knew the game was over.......

Lorax should have had himself a TD there. Wasted opportunity.....

Almost a fat guy TD there.....