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The media said it was our year. But after the KC game, we lost a few, and played a lot of close games against mediocre competition. I never felt we ever were clearly the best team in the AFC, much less the NFL. I would have loved to see us win today and set up that bowl game environment in the ATL, especially with a wounded Mahomes. But we were badly outclassed and even if we made the 3 plays (Josh missing Diggs for an easy TD, Motor drop at the end of the first half, another Gabe drop) I think the Bengals still win going away.

I'm surprised more of the streaming fans haven't chimed in on this. Besides watching the Bills game every week, I record redzone on 703 and sometimes another game I'm interested in. I can catch up on a lot during commercial breaks and halftime so it's an entire experience. Living in Tampa, I also record the Bucs game although I don't ever give it preference over the Bills. TNF is dreadful, and I can't imagine how one switches back and forth between games given how difficult it is to get in and out of streaming channels (compared to just using my DTV remote which is a second or two) Hopefully some streaming fans can explain how they watch NFL on Sunday.

It seems clear to me that Beane made this decision for him. Pure speculation, but all the wording tells me his tough talk is to save face. Why else would he scoff two days ago about Nate's garbage time stats while insisting Tyrod being the guy. I'm not disagreeing with the decision, but it smacks of either Beane or god forbid Pegula telling them what to do.

One tough game and you decide he sucks and will never be the guy? Sure glad you aren't coaching. Does he struggle throwing from the pocket? Yes, at times he does. Does he revert back to some bad form of aiming the ball and putting too much air under it? Yes, he did that and it remains a criticism. Is he hurt? Yes he is, and it is affecting his play. Does he make big plays? Yes he does, and also limits the picks, which is a huge deal. Is he accurate? The YTD suggest he is. Overall, a mixed bag. Certainly he isn't a sure fire pro bowl guy. Not yet, not even close. But I am not ready to say that he sucks or cannot improve.

We can win any game on our schedule, but could also go 3-5. After last night my heart says this team will get to 10 wins, but I think 8 or 9 is more likely. Something is missing.

I completely agree. I don't see him being a feature back now or in the future, but certainly he can be a Kenny Davis to McCoy's Thurman if that analogy works. I'm counting on McCoy being productive for 3 more years. Williams had a chance to be the feature guy against the Giants and averaged about 2 yds a carry. Then he got a concussion and we didn't see him for 3 weeks after that. My guess is that the coaches need to find the sweet spot in the # of touches for a guy that now has a history in college and the Pros of being concussed.

I think Orton's career earnings were in the $40M range. Assuming he kept 25-30% of that, he's set for life. He also had about 5 concussions and is smart enough to get out before he becomes like too many other players. He may have been a vanilla QB, but suggesting he is a kitty is over the top.

I don't get the love of this move. We basically got nothing at all for him and now we have just two QB's on the roster. With our OL, we could be back in the position of trying to find a backup at any time. Plus Cassel had options after we cut him. I realize going to Dallas isn't that bad a deal, but it kind of sucks that we did this to him after he expressed a desire to keep his family here.

Mike Williams ruined Mike Williams. I can criticize Marrone for 100 things, but MW is not one of them. Marrone didn't make Williams act like a complete ass when he lived in Tampa and had loud parties and disrespected the rental house he had or his well to do neighbors. It wasn't Marrone's fault that the guy stopped playing hard once he got a big contract.

why is it more shocking that they were shocked by it? Who here was anticipating this kind of bombshell in a closing argument? It was clearly a poorly designed hail mary by the defense to avoid the rules of evidence, but it really backfired. But it was shocking that they tried it. Then again, I don't spend much time watching or following murder trials.

He is my new least favorite Bill and truly hope he isn't back next year. Not surprised that one of Urban's guys is confused about the justice system since so many of them got arrested but never were held accountable. So glad Hernandez is going to rot in prison where he belongs. Let Spikes go visit him.

No offense to Frank, but has he been a head coach at any level of significance? I don't think he should get his training wheels off here just because he was a good guy. I'd prefer we hire someone with NFL experience as a head coach, and also a guy who has a bit of fire in him. Frank reminds me of a cerebral Mark Trestman type and I'm not sure he'd be able to handle the media and the locker room with his low key demeanor. "

Without seeing the replies, I cannot believe that is a majority view. I think he's been flat out terrible in the major decisions he's had to make. I would love to see him and Marrone both gone after this year. We'll never get even with the Patriots with these two guiding the ship.

I don't want either. Cutler is insanely talented but a complete wreck who is too far along in his career to ever become a top tier guy. Eli has just been fortunate to be on two teams that got on great runs. He has two rings, but is a mediocre QB on the downside of his career. We have to start from scratch. No EJ talk either. And Kyle cannot be under center next year.

When will people stop with this 'QB as Starting Pitcher' analysis? To say Manuel won 6 games is misleading and a bit ridiculous given his minor contributions in a few of them. He may have been the starting QB on a team that won 6 times, but that is giving him way too much credit. A bit surprised that Jimbo would say that about one of his own guys, but it isn't anything that many of us weren't saying ourselves. I never thought Manuel was going to last until the 5th or 6th round, but 3rd would have been the place to take him. Missing on a 3rd is bad, but not fatal. Missing too often with your #1's will kill you for years.

He has made similar statements before and it means nothing. He can't just "let it rip" because he's never learned how to throw into tight windows or make timing throws. The offense at FSU didn't demand it, and for the Bills he's shown no ability other than the occasional deep ball to throw someone open. What he is comfortable doing is throwing balls to uncovered receivers and even then he's soft tossing it to ensure that he gets it there. He has mechanical flaws that just are not going to get fixed in a short period of time. And i highly doubt that he'll ever be that kind of player. But if it means he's going to start running more and help the offense with his feet, I am all for it. He is zero threat right now when it comes to scaring the defense.

Potential game winning drives against Tampa? We were never in that ball game from the first quarter on. What type of rose colored glasses are you wearing?

You have got to be kidding Mrs. Manuel. It is nice to defend you son, but he did nothing today that impressed anyone knowledgable about that game.

Come on. There is zero chance the Bills are drafting a QB in the first 3 rounds. The entire organization would look like fools and EJ has done enough to not have to look over his shoulder. That being said, Teddy B is the real deal. He needs to put on 20 pounds but he is incredibly accurate, smart and athletic. His performance in the two bowl games against the Gators and Canes (Gators had a great D, Canes D is not good) showed me a lot. I would love to see him fall to the Bucs.

I love the way both of these guys play. I can't wait for this game. People who hate these guys are nuts. Best QB's ever and I'd love it if the played for the Bills (or the Bucs for that matter)

One name for sure...Danny Crossman. Our special teams have been putrid (ranked 31 of 32) and yesterday took the cake with a slow footed guy breaking two long kickoff returns. Just unacceptable Lots of players have lost love ones and made it to the games. It happens all the time. In this case he actually played after the death, so why he has been M.I.A. since then is baffling and shows again we have a soft organization who let the players run amok. You really think BB would put up with this? Someone would have subtly gotten the word out that he was hurting his teammates by not playing. Save for injury, you don't take two weeks off in the NFL for any reason. He signed the contract and has taken the game checks. I really want him gone.

Same situation in 2004, Bills game was sold out. But to be fair, I didn't see a ton of empty seats in Sun Life yesterday. It's normally a lot worse. Of course, that probably was a lot of Jets fans on holiday.

Wishful thinking but I hope you are right. I do not see a lot of comparison. Cam is way too cocky for my taste but you cannot deny his dynamic ability. He has played lights out in 2 of his 3 seasons and decent in the other. And now he's winning games. EJ doesn't have nearly as much big play making ability when things break down, and Cam seems a lot more durable. I'd love to see EJ rise to the level of competent QB that can win us a lot of games, but Cam Newton is a freak of nature and EJ is just a big guy with questionable skills.

Barring an injury to EJ, there is zero chance the Bills take a QB next year. We drafted this guy in the first half of the first round. He is ours for at least 4 years. Forget about Bridgewater. He is going to be gone in the first 3 picks.

We don't need more called running plays for EJ. Are you kidding me? Let him have a good solid run of 8-10 games without getting hurt first. If you think the pass to Chandler (wide open, easy throw that any QB could make) was EJ's best you have missed several other much more impressive throws (the bomb to Goodwin where he threw him open into the wind, the long TD to Woods...)