PolishDave

Easy Pat easy.....You're going to blow a vein. I'm still trying to figure out how this conversation is going to turn towards Tyrod. There's gotta be a way. Where are those Tyrod haters when you need em?

My gut feeling tells me that these 2 guys are up to something......they look a little too happy to be just high on life here

Also a very strong possibility. Munchies can make a man do questionable things.

Clickbait. There isn't much to talk about. So - invent a fake story so you can say the owner said scandalous things. Public reads it and rumor spreads that it really happened. Clickbait. I really think that guy (MS) is just bad at his job of actually being interesting.

A contract is a contract bro. They write them for a reason. If you are talking about hiring clerks to run the counter at McDonalds - or to stock the shelves in a retail store then yes - employees are interchangeable for the most part. They are interchangeable and easily replaceable because so many average people have those skills. When you are talking about coaching at the NFL level - very, very few people have enough developed skill to get that job. It makes perfect sense that you want to keep a guy for his entire contract. That is why they write contracts and don't just employ them like store clerks.

Is that Laura Ingalls? Why is it that when I think about Little House on the Prarie - I get the theme song from The Waltons stuck in my head?

He has plenty of experience. That's for sure. You would see a lot more passing too.

I think Rex's primary failure was marrying himself to a system that is so complicated that it takes multiple years for the players to learn it well enough to play well enough. That is just dumb by design when you coach in a "What have you done for me lately league?" System needs to be simple enough for players to execute reasonably well in year 1. It should not take a professional player several years to really understand a system. Foolish by design. Rex had enough NFL experience (a lifetime of submersion) that he could probably coach a simpler system at a much higher level - too bad for him.

From research the only positive things I can find on this guy is that 1) he is a local guy and 2) he worked for the Patriots as a tight end coach Here are his stats as an offensive coordinator Offensive Rankings Year Team Total Points Yards/Gm Rushing Yds/A Passing Yds/A Completion % 2009 Cleveland 29 32 15 32 32 2010 Cleveland 31 29 19 21 14 2011 Miami 20 22 15 13 18 2012 Kansas City 32 24 5 30 27 What is it about him that makes him look attractive other than he is local and worked as an assistant for the Patriots a few years? Not trying to knock the guy. Just don't see what there is to get excited about. Notice how short his stints have been as an offensive coordinator. That also doesn't bode well for him.

Good point. I went back as far as 2007 looking at his defenses when he was head coach and defensive coordinator at Minnesota. His defenses are historically bad against the pass and good/excellent against the run. Don't know if you can give him credit for the head coach years or not. Not sure how involved he was in those defenses. But even as a pure coordinator in Minnesota - his pass defenses were not great against the pass. Back to 2007 though, his teams have been consistently good to excellent against the run. in 2008 he had the number one ranked defense in yards/carry. In 2007 it was number 2 for the same stat. 2009 it was number 5. 2010 it was number 7. Four years in a row that Minnesota team was outstanding against the run. And in Tampa they were good against the run too. Yards per carry ranked 7 in 2014 and ranked 2 in 2015. Seems like he must know how to stop the run very well. Passing though?

I think people are considering his last job as a defensive coordinator when thinking he might be a red flag. His last coordinator gig after losing the head coaching job in Minnesota was in Tampa Bay in 2014 and 2015. Defensive Rankings 2014 2015 ------------------------------- Total Points Against 25 26 Total Yards Against 25 10 DVOA (defense) 18 18 Rushing YPC -against 7 2 Avg Pass Against 22 18 Pass Completion % 32 32 His Tampa defense was very good against the run and pretty bad against the pass. If that carries into the Bills 2017 season, then you can expect the Bills defense to improve against the run substantially and be very bad against the pass. In his last job as a coordinator - teams passed against Leslie Frazier's defense pretty much at will. Notice the league bottom ranking against completion percentages both years. Maybe it was more players than scheme/coaching? Don't know. But it doesn't bode well for a team with Tom Brady in the division. And it also doesn't bode well against a pass happy NFL.

You're wrong. Wildcard teams that won a Superbowl over the last 20 years: Denver Broncos in 1997, Baltimore Ravens in 2000,Pittsburgh Steelers in 2005, New York Giants in 2007 and Green Bay Packers in 2010. 5 times in 20 years = 1/4 of the time or 25% Getting to the playoffs gives you a VERY realistic shot at winning it all. In this age of increased Parity in the NFL - anything can happen once a team makes the playoffs

Dude, it doesn't matter if you score the points in the first quarter of fourth quarter. All that matters is how many you score compared to how many they score. The offense scored 24 and 25 points in those games. Not anything to write home about for sure. But the defense gave up 28 and 38 points. If you honestly still think it is the Bills' offense's fault that those other teams scored 28 and 38 points, then I don't know what to tell you. Some things are just obvious.

I forgot you were one of the guys that thinks it is the offense's job to play defense. I now remember having a similar conversation (I think with you) after that first Miami game. Yeah, we are never going to agree on that. Offense job is to score points. Defense job is to stop the other team from scoring. You are assigning both jobs to the offense. Yeah, not gonna agree on that. To me it is a luxury when your offense bails the defense out or vice versa. It is not something you expect them to do every game. You expect both sides of the ball to do their job reasonably well. The offense did it's job reasonably well this season based on points scored. The defense did not. Would it have been nice if the offense scored more - Yes of course. Every Bills fan wants the offense to be the number 1 most dominant offense in the league. But you don't hang blame on the offense for losing games when they were already playing better than average compared to other offenses.

It sure seems like you are, at least that is the impression. If the Bills' defense had played better and done their job of stopping other teams from scoring those high point games, isn't it more likely that this very same offense would have scored even more points in those games than they already did? Would the offense had been considered "good enough" then?

By your train of thought, what is the point of assembling and playing defense at all? Your explanation seems to overlook the fact that defense does in fact matter. You seem to be blaming the offense for every time the team doesn't win. And you are giving the Bills defense a pass for sucking when 9 out of ten fans can see the obvious point that the Bills' defense wasn't anywhere near as good relative to other defenses as their offense was to other offenses.

I'd be stoked if the Bills were talking about bringing in Cam Cameron. With the exception of one crappy year in Miami (with a horrible team) he has put together a lot of good offenses.

Thanks for taking the time to research all of that. Based on those stats, it appears it would be an absolutely horrible idea to hire that guy as an offensive coordinator..

My Pet Peeve is when a receiver is coming back to catch a football - he catches the ball and runs backwards for 5 or more yards - then the refs give him forward progress to where he first caught the ball. Sorry, that isn't forward progress when the receiver is willingly running back towards the QB in order to create separation. He should be considered down where he gets tackled. It should only be forward progress if the receiver is actually progressing and then stopped by a defender.

Kap will be out of the NFL next year. Rumor is that he is involved in a startup- Fro-dough - a multilevel marketing style - high end "big hair" products company for high profile celebrities and athletes. Kaepernick grew that fro out this year to build momentum for the company launch. Kap's even got Shaq Lawson signed up to promote his version of the fro-comb. You saw Shaq wearing it during his recent locker room interview.

I had channel 4 streaming along with Bills Facebook fan page. Channel 4's feed crashed 3/4 of the way through. Fortunately Facebook's didn't.

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He talked about winning off the field. Sounds like he is a big believer in personal character kind of like Marv Levy is/was. I wonder what the future holds for players like Hughes and Dareus?

Flutie was a winner too! Or, err, maybe not. Or maybe.