BarleyNY
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Isn't that one of the reasons Dray is here?
Dray flat out sucks. He sucks as a receiver and he's not much better as a blocker. I was shocked when the Bills signed him. It's worth noting that Hue Jackskn cut him loose right away even though the Browns had nothing else but Barnidge at TE. Even if Dray was a reliable blocker (which he's not), dedicating him to give Mills help would still remove one receiving threat from play whenever he's on the field. (And he's not much help run blocking either.) That's not something you want on a regular basis. It bears watching to see if Mills can handle the pass rush by himself on a regular basis. If he can, then it'll be a big help.
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It would sure help to have solid play from the right side of the OL, particularly Mills. If Clay doesn't have to stay in on passing downs to block or chip it adds an important receiving weapon.
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The only team that can unseat the Patriots are the Patriots themselves.
I feel this way, too. Them being unseated this season will would more to do with their decline than another team's rise. That said, the Bills have a shot. The Phish are some competent QB play away from having a shot. I just don't see it with the Jest though. I don't see how they win with Fitz behind that awful looking OL
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Not a bad decision. He fit what they want to do on defense. The thought was that he could put off any surgeries. Turns out he couldn't. He will play this season by all accounts. And as a first rounder he's under contract for up to 5 years if the Bills pick up his 4th year option. The Bills will have games next year, the year after and so on. GM's draft for now and later.p
Missing 6-8 games stinks, true enough. But what about the other 8-10 he will be available this season and the multiple games into the future?
Shaq will be eligible to come back to practice after week 6 and its jumping the gun to say that's a given. When he does get back he will not have had an NFL practice under his belt and he will be nowhere near game ready from either a physical or mental standpoint. That will take time. So don't expect much out of him this season. The best case scenario for him is to get him healthy and get him some experience by easing him into the lineup situationally.
He may very well go on to have an excellent career here in Buffalo and if he does his selection will be hailed as a good pick. I'll be happy that it worked out, but I'll still disagree with selecting an injured Shaq Lawson at 19 overall (though I thought it was a very good pick when I thought he was healthy). I'm not knocking Lawson here, I like him a lot as a player. I'm knocking Whaley. If you're going to select an injured player, then you've got to get that player at a discount. He didn't do that, despite what some here are saying after the fact.
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Seriously? Ragland's injury came as a result of a fluke - By all accounts Lawson is a talent that should have been selected higher. Assuming he comes back healthy the Bills win. Look back to Thurman Thomas - he was supposed to be damaged goods coming out of college. The Bills came out pretty well with that pick.
Agree on Ragland's injury being a fluke, but Lawson went about where expected. The highest I saw him mocked was 11th and that was with the notation that he'd be a reach at that pick. Most had him going a few picks ahead of the Bills.
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You really need to go back and read Whaley's account of the Rex hiring. It's nothing like what you are describing.
And what am i criticizing? I'm simply correcting the misconception that Whaley was anything less than on board and pumped about hiring Rex.
I'm not describing anything and I've read Whaley's account. Again, what would you expect him to say? He was barely sticking around after the Pegulas bought the team. Of course Whaley is going to back with the HC they wanted and he's going to paint a rosy picture. Again, I'm not defending the job he's done. There's plenty to criticize, just not the Rex hire.
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Whaley was all in on Rex. His own words confirm this. This has been posted as well.
That means nothing. If he liked the Rex hire, he's just telling the truth. If he hated the Rex hire, then what's he supposed to say? "I think the Pegulas are idiots for hiring Rex and I can't believe I have to work with that tool." How do you think a less than glowing public endorsement of any HC would have played out? I'm not on the Whaley bandwagon by any stretch, but this is a ridiculous criticism. Oh, and for better or worse Whaley and Rex are tied together here. If one goes, the other goes with him - although I don't expect that to happen until after the 2017 season.
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According to @AdamSchefter, #Bills OLB Shaq Lawson is expected back between Week 6 and Week 8. That would likely mean the PUP list.
Some good news at least, especially after the bad news about Ragland.
I kinda wonder if this is it. Nothing new here on that tweet except the word "expected" and that's nothing concrete. Just a hopeful sounding version of what we already knew coming directly on the heels of the Ragland news. Whether it's what the team honestly believes to be true or just hopeful thinking, the tweet seems like it's aim is good PR. Remind fans that we might get Shaq back to pick up their spirits and get some pressure off the front office.
I really don't like seeing this out in the media. Putting expectations for a speedy recovery and immediate impact doesn't do Shaq any good. PUP rules allow him back to practice as early as after the 6th week of the season. Even if he makes it back that quickly there's no real chance to get much out of him in a hurry as he will have had zero career NFL practice time and be nowhere near game shape. It'd be better to keep expectations for him low this season and err on the side of caution with his injury. Get him healthy, get him acclimated to the NFL and get him a little experience this season - without unnecessary risk of reinjuring his shoulder. Long term that'd be better both for him and for the Bills.
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Players get hurt. Draft picks get hurt. Sometimes you get unlucky. But it's not luck when you use your first round pick on a player who is already injured. Ragland was bad luck. Lawson was a bad decision.
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It could be a deal that offers him some extra cash up front this season (either signing bonus or salary) and then has a large, but not guaranteed outlay next season. Essentially making it something like a one year deal with a 3 year team option. Tyrod gets some safe cash this season and the Bills get him at a decent price for three additional years if they want to keep him. But they can get out after this season if they don't.Bills can pay Tyrod $3M this year and $22M under the tag.
So they have him for $25M the next 2 years. For the Bills to pay him $35M over the next 2 years would be absolutely asinine. They would essentially be giving him a $10M raise, for what?
The only way this chatter makes sense is if there is 3rd year on the deal for a team friendly $15-$16 M salary.
Basically 2 years $35M makes no sense
3 years $51M makes some sense.
With that said.....I just don't understand doing an extension now. I'd want to see him prove his worth this year before committing serious $.
If Tyrod and his agent beat the Bills on this deal, my confidence in Whaley will take a big hit.
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@jasonlacanfora
Bills continue to make headway on Tyrod Taylor deal thou issues remain on back end of deal. Would likely be $35M in 1st 2yrs
Lotta ways $35M can be structured over two years, but we're starting to get to a bigger deal overall which means we might be looking at some creative structuring.
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Meh.
Tyrod is about 100 times more important to the success of 2016 than a rookie ILB would have been.
Way to jinx him.
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@jeremywhite
Bills DC Dennis Thurman on the loss of Ragland says... Its not necessarily a next man up scenario. Theyll have to make scheme changes.
!@#$
Coming out of college there was disagreement about whether Ragland would be a 2 or 3 down LB in the NFL. I am still taking a wait-and-see approach to that, but I dug further into it recently. A lot could have to do with the defense he'd be playing in. He doesn't seem cut out to play much man and you certainly don't want to see him dragging a TE down the seam. He is a better fit in defenses where he'd be playing short zones. That essentially how you want to adjust for a player who's not strong in coverage.Stinks.
The only saving grace here is that I didn't have a very high opinion of Reggie to begin with, so I think the combination of Zach and Spikes may be an adequate replacement.
Not having Shaq or Manny would be a much bigger issue IMO.
So now the defense is going to platoon the position with a run guy and a pass guy. Lots of teams do that. It's not optimal, but it could be worse. I feel for Ragland, but I wasn't sold on him as a 3 down LB yet anyway. Without him we will likely be worse off in obvious running downs, but even with him healthy we might be in the same or a better spot in pass defense.
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Basically that's it. It breaks down specifically like this:I think Shaq can stay on the Active/PUP through Week 10, at which time he needs to be activated or placed on IR.
Players on Preseason PUP can return anytime during training camp or preseason.
Players on PUP when regular season starts must stay on PUP for at least 6 weeks.
After week 6 the team has 5 weeks to allow the player to start practicing (player still does not count on active roster).
If player doesn't start practicing by week 11 he stays on PUP for season.
After player starts practicing the team has 3 weeks to decide whether to activate player, place him on IR or release him.
Note: This applies to Lawson. Ragland is not eligible for PUP since he took part in a training camp practice.
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ok - cool
The sports media guys out there should know this. When they talk about a "short term IR" they are confusing people. It's not like baseball with a separate 15-day and 60-day disabled lists along with full season IR.
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There is no a short term IR in the NFL, they're referring to the DTR rule (designated to return). One player (and only one player per season) who was placed in IR with a major injury can be designated to return after week six of the season. That player isn't allowed to play in a game for two additional weeks. This season the rule was changed (thanks to the Bills) so that the player may be determined at the time of return rather than at the time he was put on IR (which makes a ton of sense).Seems like a long shot but...
@ryanlasal
They have a short term IR in the NFL now. He could come back to practice after 6 weeks #BillsCamp
The gist of the situation is that if the Bills think Ragland will miss more than a few weeks, the can put him on IR and then worry about if/when he can come back later.
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Crap. Should have read through the rest of the thread.Looks like surgery. They aren't sure if it's season ending first or 6-8 weeks
@IanRapoport
#Bills LB Reggie Ragland is set for surgery later this week on his partially torn ACL, per source. The knee is believed to have other damage
During Reggie Ragland's surgery, he'll learn whether his season is over or if it's a 6-8 week recovery. Either way, he'll miss serious time.
I'm now more concerned with Ragland and Lawson getting healthy and On the field. Missing TC and preseason is a much bigger deal for rookies than vets so I'm no longer counting on help from them this season. 2016 should now be about getting them right physically and getting them some NFL experience, if possible. Then they can come into next season healthy and ready to hit the ground running.
Lawson is on PUP, which is important. He must miss at least 6 weeks, but he can return without using our one IR designated-to-return allowance. That can be used for Ragland. Or he can be carried on the active roster if the team thinks he will only miss a few weeks of the regular season.
Good luck to the kid this week.
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Barley good questions. To the best of my knowledge, though, it's often a bit less clear cut - in a grade 2 sprain, there may be instability due in part to swelling and to stretching of the ligaments, and there's a judgement call involved in whether or not a partial tear should be surgically repaired or whether it will provide enough stability to the joint as it heals.
I expect no one is in a hurry to make a decision, and that's probably the right call - let the swelling subside completely and then re-assess.
Thanks. That makes sense.
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Why would we trade for a player one violation away from a 2 year ban?
Yeah, I agree. It'd be a tough trade to make, too. Teams wouldn't want to give up anything for him so the Iggles would be better off holding onto him rather than taking a late round pick. Even if you could acquire him, could you really depend on him? You could spend a lot of time and effort teaching him your system and getting him to gel with your OL only to have him get suspended for 2 more seasons. Then all you did was swap a late round pick for a problem.
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What are they? Do you know?
Yes. Removal of offsets and payment of the full signing bonus in the first season of the contract are the issues. In the five seasons since slotting, every 3rd round pick got one or the other. From what I understand Bosa not looking for both, he is only looking for one or the other. Incidentally Goff and Wentz got both. Their contracts do not have offsets and pay the full signing bonus this season.
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Eli's father knew the trainwreck that the Chargers have been and didn't want him to have to deal with that. I thought it was a crummy move at the time, but after watching the Chargers since I don't blame them. I wouldn't want my kid playing there if I could help it.In Eli's case it was the player, more precisely the player's father. SD had been bad for a while and was viewed as a bad organization. Archie did not want Eli to endure what he had at NO. So they did the same thing Elway did to Baltimore. I can't remember or don't care what the issue is with Bosa. I think the agent and Bosa want something on the contract that no one does, but can't recall what.
As for Bosa, it's the opposite of what you state. He's only asking for the same thing as other players slotted where he is (and lower) got. The Chargers are trying to remove contractual items that are considered standard for a 3rd overall pick.
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I didn't realize Bosa was on the trade block.
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I just read they have voiding language with PED suspensions.
That's huge. Here's the breakdown of his contract:
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The sheer number of dumb comments in this thread is impressive.
Especially given there is NO mystery here...first diagnosis is Partially torn ACL. They are having a second opinion confirm the diagnosis, but that can not be done until they get the swelling down. So where is the mystery other than the mystery of why people on here seem to think their demand and need to know supersedes medical science and procedure?
The real and bigger question is this: is there something contributing to the over whelming amount of injuries this team faces to key players year after year?
Last year we literally had one of the worst, if not worst, overall injury situation in the NFL. We lost all key playmakers on offense for parts of the season, their backups, and some for the season. Even when playing our players were often playing hurt like Taylor, Sammy, McCoy, Clay, and key members of the OL...not to mention the key people we lost on defense. We are already off to a dismal start in the injury department and we havent even played our first preseason game. Its so bad, I almost rater see guys like Sammy, McCoy, Taylor, Clay, AW, KW, Dareus, Gilmore, and Darby never play a single snap in preseason.
So why is this? I don't recall seeing any changes to our strength and conditioning staff, so maybe we start there. What about the condition of the fields we practice on and in the stadium? Either we are just that unlucky or there is something else that seems to repeat this pattern year after year. And I don't want to hear the naive response that all teams have injuries...no kidding...but we continuously get hit among the hardest every year IMO and at some point "bad lucky" or "cursed" can't remain the most common answer and this team needs to look to solve this problem.
There's really not much of substance going on to discuss, aside from contract stuff with Taylor and Gilmore. What we know for sure is that Ragland has a grade 2 ACL sprain, which is a partially torn ACL. That's pretty much it here. There's been a lot of misinformation and speculation too. I couldn't find anything reliable on whether or not his knee was "loose". That's a big deal because instability in the knee with a grade 2 injury points toward surgery. A stable knee would be unlikely to need it. There's nothing more that has been made public regarding the first opinion so we don't even know if it was conclusive in any way,mother than to confirm the partial tear. We will just have to wait and see. Or we can sit and speculate. It doesn't much matter. We should know the course soon.
One question for those who might know. If his knee has some slight instability, could the course of action be to rehab it and see if it responds before having surgery (if needed)? Having surgery now or in 6 weeks really would affect his availability this season and it'd give him a chance to possibly play.
Madden 17 - Bills with an Overall Rating of 81
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Outstanding.