BarleyNY
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51 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
As much as the Bills are being mocked to 5 and 6, I still think 4 is where they end up and yes they will pay a lot.
It makes a lot of sense. I just hope both teams find their next FQB in this draft.
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46 minutes ago, racketmaster said:
Only way I would be happy with Bills moving to #2 would be if it were for Darnold. No other qb is worth the risk and draft capital.
For what it’s worth, one of the rumors I heard from a Browns source is that Darnold is the only QB that the NYG would take at 2.
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6 hours ago, SteveFreeman22 said:
You don't need smokescreen stuff when you have the no. 1 pick.
You do if you’re trying to inflate the values of the QBs in the draft so you can move the 4th pick for a ransom.
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51 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
Hue Jackson is employed because ownership dictated it, and will be gone the first chance the GM gets to fire him. His major accomplishment as a head coach will be somehow not getting fired after going 0-16. Haley will be HC by mid-season, and then the GM can finally hire a coach he actually wants.
Almost certainly all true.
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Rosen. It’s not close. But I’ve not done much real research this season.
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Just now, thurst44 said:
Well, how about this, maybe not immediately presume your own team is terrible, and be absolutely unflappably sure about it. It's the "woe is us" "we're always the worst" postulating that is itself the worst, particularly coming off a playoff season.
Is that what happened there? Or did the poster compare the differences in the specific position groups? Right now I’m struggling to find a position group that’s improved - other than the DL. Several are definitely worse at the moment: QB, OL (by a whole lot), CB, LB and probably even WR. But, as some have noted, this isn’t the final roster. We’ve got the draft and cut downs to pick up help.
The other point that has been brought up is point differential, which statistically is a better predictor of teams’ records the following year than their actual record from the previous year. IIRC the Bills exceeded their prediction last season with 9 wins as opposed to their predicted 7 (I think it was 6.7or 6.8). Their differential in 2017 indicated about 7 wins for 2018 too. That explains the rebuild, which is actually comforting to me. The McBean regime recognized that they overachieved last season and they’re preparing for the long term rather than fooling themselves into believing that they could stay the course and repeat their relative success.
The upshot for me is that I won’t be expecting a great record next season, but I will expect to see a team building for the future and one that will fill some (but not all of its) holes and be competitive.
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1 minute ago, thurst44 said:
I think you may have wandered away from the point here. His argument was that we don't know what next year will bring for any team, so until anyone proves otherwise, we are what our record says we are. Ultimately, the Bills are the biggest of question marks, because the defense was dominant at its best (its stats were mostly obliterated during the three week stretch in which it fell apart) and we don't know what the QB or O-Line situation will be. Plus, from what we've seen of this organization and this administration, there will be many changes between now and early September.
That being said, I don't really see where our talent level is that far from where we started last year, nor do I see how the Raiders improved from the bellyflop of last year (and we beat them handily), so I don't particularly buy that one, and feel like the Chargers are the most overrated team in the league for their "potential." Chiefs did a worse mid-season nosedive than we did.Man do I hate the “who knows what will happen until the games are played?” arguement. It’s reasonable t9 make educated guesses that can then be argued. The alternative is never to speculate about anything.
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7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
Before the draft they might have a good case. We lost our three best offensive lineman, did little to address WR (we lost Thompson and picked up Kerley), our projected QB starter is a 5th round pick with little experience, we didn't do anything to replace Preston Brown, and I think Gaines is a better player than Davis at this point in their careers. If we have a good draft where we keep most of our picks and still select a quarterback along with picking up some free agents/cuts to fill our remaining holes before the season starts, we should be at least competitive.
Sadly accurate. Making the playoffs last season will give this regime some capital with the fans and they’re going to spend a far bit of it this season. It’s not a total tear down and they won’t be the worst team in the league, but it’s a rebuild and they won’t make .500 either. Or rather they’d have to hit big at QB for a winn8ng record to happen.
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Hearing Darnold is the Browns preference at 1 (not a stretch) and Chubb at 4 if he makes it there (ditto). The 3 way trade is actually a possibility and would result in the Browns taking Mayfield at 2 (after Darnold going 1). Darnold is also the only QB the NYG would take at 2. Otherwise it’s Chubb or Barkley.
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2 hours ago, Mat68 said:
He was given a 2 million dollar bonus for winning the Superbowl and an option for 19. Before he was a FA in 19. its possible a team will still trade for him. imo he is not look on as a franchise Qb but a bridge Qb.
It’s a mutual option. He has to agree to it or he’s a FA.
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There’s a list of all of John Dorsey’s draft picks. He has never spent higher than a 3rd on a RB - and he’s been very successful doing that. He’s not picking Barkley.
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5 minutes ago, Gugny said:
Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Would not have thought of him, but he’d be a great choice. Also I’d vote for Brady if he’d be willing to start immediately.
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On 4/17/2018 at 3:12 PM, Devilmann said:
I can definitely live with that
Yup. That’d be a fantastic outcome.
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On 4/11/2018 at 11:23 AM, Dalton said:
The delta in the ceiling between Darnold and Allen is smaller than the delta between them in the floor.
To me this is a clear risk management decision and Cleveland will select Darnold as a result.
Gotta disagree on both. Their floors are both rock bottom. That delta is 0. Allen actually has a much higher ceiling, although I’d certainly say the odds of him achieving it are even smaller than Darnold’s (which aren’t high).
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16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
It's still a factor to be considered under windy conditions and with certain throws such as deep sideline outs.
Deep sideline outs and other throws requiring arm strength are important in keeping defenses honest. If you can’t make those throws then the short stuff won’t be there.
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19 hours ago, Gugny said:
I'll go with DE or WR ... heavily leaning toward the DE.
This. Pass rusher or WR.
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7 hours ago, stuvian said:
I'll take Lamar Jackson all day
Agreed. Jackson is about the same caliber (albeit different specifically) of a QB prospect as Mahomes was. It’d be odd to have punted on Mahomes at 10 last season only to go Jackson at 12 this season. Still, I’d take it.
6 hours ago, stuvian said:worst case scenario is giving up a king's ransom in picks only to get Allen
Also agree with this. Yikes!
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9 hours ago, gobills1212 said:
I agree. Somehow I missed this thread, but saw it on Twitter.
What I didnt understand and maybe someone can clear up is the Browns motivation to do this. 1 goes to 2, and 4 goes to 12.
Taking a hit like that would require some serious compensation- so as much fun as it is to believe and read stuff like this- when I try and picture it in reality I get stuck on that.
Maybe that's the 'other compensation ' but I cant imagine what that would be unless someone gets the Bills 2019 1st or something etc
This is a common sort of flaw in many BS rumors. One or two teams get what they want which creates a huge gap for another team. It’d take more than the Bills 2019 1st rounder to make something like this happen. And when was the last 3 way trade done in the NFL? Has it ever happened?
edit: I found one 3 team NFL trade in 2010 involving only day 3 picks and players. That’s it.
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10 hours ago, crack said:
Yeah I heard it may come down to Mayfield or Rosen for their QB, and it may not be at 1 but could be at 4. Thoughts on that?
Heard coaches want Rosen, but aren’t likely to get their way. Dorsey will make the call, but I do not know who it will be.
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8 hours ago, crack said:
Did you hear that from a Bills or Browns source?
Do you have any other inside info?
Browns source. And yes, it’s an inside source. Subject to all the caveats that goes with that - especially with intentional misinformation flowing so freely this time of year. Still, he was pretty adamant about the Browns not really wanting Allen.
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2 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:
Want to get real into the weeds....
I wonder if the Browns and Bills haven't had a conversation. I think it's pretty safe to say we want Darnold. I think the Browns want that #2 pick traded before they draft. I think there's a chance they've told us we can have Darnold if we go up and get him, something along the lines of "go to #2, we'll then flip 1 and 2, you give us back our Tyrod pick, you get Darnold, we'll take Rosen/Allen/Baker and save a little bit of money". That could be the catalyst behind the trip to LA.
I know the Browns and Bills have spoken about the #4 pick. Also the Browns are pimping Allen to try to raise his stock so that he’ll go in the top 4 and improve the value of that pick - either by going 2 or 3 or a team coming up to 4 for him. They’re definitely not selecting him. That’s the one thing this guy has said that I can verify.
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I miss the idea of the Jills, but not the actual Jills themselves.
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Definitely a worse record than last season. Two reasons:
1) Last season’s Bills team overachieved/got lucky (were not as good as their record indicated)
2) There’s less talent on this season’s roster
This season is about building for the future - and that starts with finding our QB.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
Thought he was going to Newark??
No way do the Bills get any of the earlier signing bonus back, but there’s definitely going to be a fight over the $1M restructure signing bonus.
Beane giving sense that a trade prior to draft unlikely, all depends on who goes #1
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Yes. I’ve heard that Darnold is the only QB that the NYG like at 2 and that he’d be their pick if available. I’ve also heard that he won’t be.