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BarleyNY

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  1. Everybody who hopped on the trade Ragland train is missing one thing...

    If he really is that bad that we have to trade him, nobody is going to give us anything of value for him

    Especially not a mid round pick

    If he's shipped out it will be for a 6th or 7th and I'd rather just have the depth

    A big concern with Ragland is that he's a 3-4 ILB, not a 4-3 LB. He could legitimately have mid round pick value to a 3-4 team in need of a downhill, thumping ILB.

  2. I guess I'm an optimist. But what I try to do most of the time is understand why management would do what it did. So I look for reasons that seem logical.That comes off as me sounding like I'm always supporting the team and their decisions. And I generally do support them, because as I think about why they might of done something, I come to understand the logic in their choice.But I actually recognize that some decisions work, and some don't. In this case, for example, I'm not saying that unloading Watkins was without question a good decision. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. But I can see why it fits what they're doing.My views are changing about player personnel. I think the coach is the most important guy on the team, the QB is second, and practically no one else matters. In particular, as much as I love watching them, I think great receivers are pretty much unimportant. Julio Jones hasn't won, Fitzgerald hasn't won. Julian Edelman is far from being in the conversation about great receivers, but he wins. So I've come to think that wideouts are a distraction.

    This might help with your optimism:

     

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NFLDrafter/status/896100220341174272

     

    I can't figure out how to post a pic of the chart, but it shows Ethan Young's MAVEM calculation for the trade. It's an "analytics" style tool he developed to value trades involving draft picks. In short, the Bills cleaned up on these trades, adding $17.85M in value. It's further proof that Beane and McD are using analytic tools to build this roster.

  3. Not fair to players like McCoy, KW, Incognito or even TT.

    Sal MaioranaVerified account @salmaiorana 1h1 hour ago

     

     

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    The #Bills made the right moves yesterday. I know it's hard to believe, but I applaud. Here's my analysis http://on.rocne.ws/2wQCMBa via @DandC

     

    A) The article is spot on, as is the OP.

     

    B) Not FAIR to those players. That's ridiculous. I'm not even convinced this team changed its win total for the worse this season with these trades. Even if for the sake of argument I assume that it does, I'm at a loss to find any sense in that comment. Playing football is those players' jobs. If Kyle Williams is so depressed about the moves that he wants to forego his $6.3M salary and retire early, so be it. And would you have felt the same way if, instead of being traded, Watkins had gotten injured again?

  4. It's difficult to win a blockbuster trade up early in a draft. The Julio Jones scenarios are rare, but they do exist. There's a good reason for that - it's because teams moving up are usually a lot more desperate than the ones moving back. Often the regime doesn't have much to lose because they are under a lot of pressure to improve immediately. The GM and/or HC doesn't much care about next year's picks because they won't be around for that draft anyway if they don't improve. Stable regimes take advantage of those teams in those situations.

     

    The moral of the story isn't "Never trade up!" it is ""Don't trade up out of desperation." Trust your process and player evaluations so you don't talk yourselves into chasing a mirage.

  5. We are stocked with picks, may be gunning for a QB, and also a bunch of defensive holes.

    Each year is deep at different positions and weak in others.

    What if the season ends and the top 3 teams with picks and need QB's and won't trade with us? I know we have the ammo, but they need to be willing to deal with us and I don't see us being worse than the 49ers, Jets, or Browns.

    And then, what if there just isn't the starting talent needed at the defensive positions we require?

    I'm just afraid that we won't have a draft that meets our needs and this drags down the line.

    The 49ers are likely to have one of the top picks. If they go the Cousins route they'll want to deal. If not, then Cousins will be available. The Rams still have a terrible team and might have a top pick even if Goff makes strides. They could deal. In addition to Cousins, Garappolo will hit the market and a QB needy team will take a shot with him. That could be a top drafting team. The other interesting situation is the Ravens. They're going to be bad this season. I'd bet that they'd draft Flacco's replacement if they could, but they look like a rebuild is in order. You never know, they might favor a haul of picks to replacing him. Besides, they run a vertical offense and might be looking for a different kind of QB than we are. I know Tyrod is good at the vertical game too, but McD seems to favor a quicker, shorter passing game. I see him looking for a better version of Peterman. Speaking of whom, wouldn't it be nice to hit the lottery there and have our FQB plus all of those picks?

  6. then the trade was necessary, but then the question is, Is it the right decision to move on from him after this season. I say no. We'll see.

    I don't see how Sammy would've stayed a Bill much longer. The team declining his option was the writing on the wall. I'd have picked it up unless the doctors were telling me some bad things. That'd have bought another season to see if he could get and stay healthy. I thought it was worth the risk, but McD obviously didn't. After this season the options were:

    - Letting him walk for a possible comp pick if we qualified.

    - Signing him to a new contract. We'd have to outbid the league and I don't see that happening. If he had injury issues and couldn't demand a large deal, then he'd likely go to a team with an elite QB on a short term deal.

    - Franchise tag him. That's the only real possibility. He'd have to stay healthy and have a stellar season. A long term deal would mean a top 5 WR contract and that's tough to sell me on due to his injury history Or we'd have him for that year under the tag. Or possibly trade him at that point.

     

    If his foot breaks again this season or he's on IR for any other reason everyone will be singing the praises of Beane and McD.

  7. Here's the link to every one of Watson's plays last night. I guess for a rookie he looked ok, but certainly not great. Some really bad misses downfield. Also taking a LOT of time to read the field. Best throw of the night was late in the 3rd quarter (about 4:45 into the video). Big chunk of his yardage was a meaningless sideline throw at the end of the first half.

     

    I don't know how anyone could draw conclusions (good or bad) from that performance. I saw a QB who has a ways to go.

    Thanks for the link.

     

    It's just one preseason game against 2s and 3s, but my opinion is the same. His lack of accuracy is going to prevent him from succeeding. He should've been a third round pick. If he could get that straight, then he could have a real chance at being very, very good, but odds of that are not good.

  8. No its not a stretch.

     

    However information came out explaining.....dont you think its important (given the player) to find out whats going on?

     

    By all accounts the foot is healed.

    It'd have been much better if the OP had simply stated what he saw and left it at that. He made inferences that he didn't need to. But I was responding to your complaint that Watkins didn't even hurt his oft injured foot again. My point was that was a silly complaint because there was no way someone watching camp could tell the difference between a right ankle and right foot injury to him and that it wasn't a big stretch to think it was his right foot .

     

    As for the reports regarding health of his foot, we've been told it was 100% before and it wasn't and we've been told it was fully healed only to see him hurt it again. It's early. I'm hoping for the best this time, but I'm far from comfortable with the situation. As time goes on and he stays healthy my expectations will improve. I just need some proof.

  9. Except it wasnt his surgically repaired foot?

    Dude. He rolled his right ankle. He's had six injuries to his right foot. It is not a stretch to think it's his right foot when someone sees that he is limping and favoring his right side from a right ankle injury.

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