BarleyNY
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Trade McCoy tomorrow. Don't fear the repercussions from a bunch of whining fans. Do what's right for the team. Complete the tank, compete for first overall. It's THAT important. I think the FO could get at least a second for McCoy. To have 2 firsts, 3 seconds and 2 thirds would make a whole lot more sense than competing for 4-12. DO IT.
Another tantrum thread started because the Bills traded Watkins. Super. Awesome contribution to the board.
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dang,
Will this be yet another Wilson, Carr, Prescott, Bills didn't pick the franchise QB sitting there situation? Dude's only 21 and he looks more poise than Taylor (12 of the top 14 topics on TSW are on him lol) has ever shown.
Wow. Totally disagree with that assessment. I was expecting much better from your post and the article. He did well improvising and threw well on the run, but his work in the pocket was not good. His footwork is a mess, he moved around but not well. He did well with quick throws like screens, but much of his success was with stuff that won't work with starters on the field, He's got a long way to go. I hope he sees the field this season because that'll improve our draft pick from them.
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If you could go back to this time last year, would you take a 2nd or even a 3rd for Gilmore?
2-6 with sammy last year and 5-3 without him. we might have imrpoved the team
Couple of good points here. I strongly suspect the posters whining about the Sammy trade won't have much to say about either.
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It's almost as if McD already knew he wanted to get his own QB next year that fits the WCO he wants to run. If he really wanted to commit to Tyrod and put him in a position to succeed then he probably wouldn't be trying to make him do things he's clearly not good at.
Might be that the coaches are challenging TT in order to find out if he can be a long term answer at QB. If he can't do what they want, then they still might tailor the offense to fit him in the regular season. If he doesn't markedly improve and they don't do that, then he won't be starting here for long this season.
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I turned 50 today brother. No lie.
Happy birthday! I hope you're doing something special today.
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We have seen Tyrod for over two years now and he is the same crappy QB he was two years ago. He doesn't anticipate throws, he doesn't throw open receivers, and he can't throw into space. Hell most of the time he can't throw the ball over the middle of the field. These are serious limitations for a NFL QB. Tyrod Taylor is a running back that happens to be able to throw a football. He is like a wildcat runningback that we decided to use on every down.
I'd add that even his footwork was inconsistent in that game. I never really watched it before and I couldn't stop once I started. It was good more often than not but it was poor too often for an NFL starter. That said, Peterman had some similar issues too. I hated watching him throw off his back foot. He has to get the ball out - even if it's a throw away - rather than do that. Tyrod better hope Peterman doesn't fix those issues before the bye or game 5 might be it for him.
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You again miss the point. 1k yards on 60 catches is higly productive.
Not really. It's solid production. I'd be disappointed if my #1 WR turned in that kind of performance. But I'd be very happy if my #2 did it.
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Why would I look at a season when he was injured as a measure of what his abilities are? Underachieveing? Hardly as 1K+ yards on 60 catches at 17.5 YPC with 9 TDs is highly productive. Typical I don't appreciate great players on my team Bills' fan attitude. Good luck Buffalo.
Taking the best case scenario as who a player is would be a horrible way to run a team. I can't tell you how many times people say things like "I'd take a healthy Sammy Watki s over..........". There's that qualifier so often. But you don't see it with those he's compared to because, you know, you don't need to. It's part of the package with him until he proves it isn't.
Also you're flat out wrong on the stats. 1k receiving yards would've ranked him 25th last season between Kenny Britt and Davante Adams. Are you telling me that they're elite receiver's? Or that 25th best is elite? Sorry. And that's not even his average season total. He's well below that.
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It's early yet, but it does look like those who claimed that Dennison and TT were a perfect fit were very wrong.
Whenever I have seen TT at his best, it was when he was freelancing...playing sandlot style ball and running around.
I don't trust anything this guy does under center. I believe Roman had the right idea and system for him. Rex picked TT because of that very reason.
The new offense requires TT to do exactly what he isn't good at - throwing accurate anticipatory timing throws. It's to an almost whole new receiving corps, Clay aside. I'll give him that. But if early returns are an indication of the season in general, then we will be seeing Peterman.
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He played in 29 of 32 games in his 1st two seasons with over 2000 yards and 15 TDs in run oriented offenses under Hackett and Roman. Is that under productive? The fact that he's had a 2nd surgery to correct the Jones fracture (just like Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, and Julian Edelman) and being able to go full bore in camp bodes well for him.
Cherry picking is weak. 3 seasons, 37 games, 153 catches, 2,459 yards and 17 TDs. Those are solid stats, it they're sure not elite. Even in his best season he barely broke 1k yards. That's not enough for a #1 WR so yes, its underperforming for that. He's obviously got talent, but he doesn't have the production to match. He very well might change that this season. It's his contract year so I'd bet he will do everything he can to produce. He'll probably have his best season yet. But I do not want any part of him long term because I expect him to be way overpaid with his second contract. I'm glad we aren't the ones that are going to give it to him.
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He was among the best if not the best receiver in the game the last 8 games of 2015.
He had a serious foot injury last season that from all accounts is now 100%. He was going to produce big time this year, IMO.
You keep him from FA next year by picking up his option.
Not sure who you've been watching the past dozen plus years, but this regime has been a mess for a longgg time. A couple of newbies doesn't change that until the results on the field change.
Wow. An eight game run two seasons ago. You've just proved my point. No one knows if his foot is fully healed and whether or not it can stand the rigors of a full season. It's certainly a risk. And until he can produce consistently he is what he is: A highly talented, but under productive WR.
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Pretty much. They didn't want to pay him if he had a big year which makes little sense. It's a pre Pegula move hence the Jauron/Levy comparison from BADOL.
The injury history is blown way out of proportion. He had a serious foot issue that looks to be healed. Otherwise he missed 3 games in 2015 and 0 his rookie year.
****. At least find out if he can stay healthy for another full season and see what he can do in a contract year before jumping the gun.
Id bet a lot of money he will be mostly healthy throughout the rest of his career and if Goff develops he will be a stud for years.
Couple issues with that.
1) Either injuries that he has played through have prevented him from producing more or he's not as good enough to warrant a big contract. And don't give me BS about it being scheme or QB. No OC leaves the kind of yards we're talking about on the field because the just feel like running the ball. Also WRs have done much better with much worse at QB. Hell, Josh Gordon led the league a few seasons ago in 14 games with hot garbage at QB for the Browns.
2) The only way to keep him from getting the free agency after this season was going to be the franchise tag. Sometimes going to go crazy and break the bank for him, but it'll be a big risk. It will probably be done by a team with a regime that is in trouble and won't have to deal with the mess if it blows up. This regime doesn't have to take that kind of risk at the present time.
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If this regime was willing to sign Watkins to a big contract even with a healthy, productive season then they'd have kept him. They moved on because they didn't like the risk (and/or attitude). It's over.
On a side note, Sammy fans seem to be getting through the stages of grief at a decent clip.
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was runner up as defensive rookie of the year....
Darby did not make the Pro Football Writers Association writer's short list for DROY runner ups (top 6), but he did win PFF's DROY award outright. Notably, Gaines was named to by the PFWA to their All Rookie team.
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I'm not saying send them rags for him but if they want our second let's go
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I'm sure they'd do that and probably even kick back a day 3 pick. They seem to be preparing to move on from him.
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i tell you what i wish we had the cap space for joe haden
I'd be the they'd move Haden, but would not be interested in Ragland. No place for him on Greggg's defense.
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Are you counting all the off season work Taylor and Watkins put in together?
I disagree,
I am trying to keep an open mind though ...
Stuff like that gets overplayed every year. "Look who's working out together" articles are nice fluff pieces, but rarely amount to anything on the field. Besides, it was highly unlikely that either was going to be here after this season anyway.
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The HC just chose his GM a few months ago. They're on the same page.Why not accomplish both? Other teams seem to remain competitive without gutting the team of talent and you want to know why?
Good coaching/systems IMO,
and a FO That lets the GM and HC do their job without interference...
As for competing, I'm not convinced that the Bills are any better or worse right now than they were right before the trades. They swapped a more talented, but less productive WR for a less talented, but more productive one. They traded a man coverage corner who had one good and one bad year for a zone corner that had one good, one injured and one bad year. Makes sense seeing as how we are a zone team this season. Plus they picked up draft capital in the process. You know, they might actually be better off in the short term and long term now that I think about it. Hey, they did do both.
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Sure , If they do what their told.
What if they've been told to build for the long run and for an eventual SB run rather than to expend capital to push to be one of 5 or 6 teams with a shot at a WC spot and an early playoff exit in the short term?
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West
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That's incorrect. One of the fundamentals of the WCO is replacing some of the running game with short passes. But that isn't the whole system. Another fundamental is the use of Hi-Lo concepts in the passing game. A vertical threat comes in pretty handy for that.
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could be approach to trying to prevent injuries (stretching, etc)
Maybe. Still, it is odd to hear - especially from both. McD sure doesn't seem like a guy who'd let players slide on being out of shape.
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Kyle Williams is one of my all-time favorites but he is 34 and going to make $8.3 million this year to play football. I am 35 and get up every day at 5:00 am to grind out 45-50 hours a week for far less. I love the guy but I don't feel bad for I'm at all, at all. It's a business and if players don't like it, I really don't care.
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If it's such a chore to for him or others to play now, they're free to retire.
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Zay J is my bet/hope
4.45 forty for Zay. Sammy ran a 4.43. Hopefully Zay adjusts to the NFL quickly. He certainly has the speed to play on the outside as an X.
Matthews at 4.46 and Jones at 4.45 for their 40 times most definitely have the speed to play outside. Boldin definitely is better suited for the slot, but I feel like his lack of burner speed wouldn't matter on the outside in the red zone.
Whoops. Didn't see that you slready covered Jones.
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Stop changing schemes every freaking two years.
Amen. Pegs going with Wrex and his 3-4, 2-gap read and react scheme while the team was already sitting pretty with Schwartz's top defense that played an attacking 1-gap 4-3 was a horrific mistake. Just Bush League.
Complete the tank, McBean. Do it.
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Sorry about that. My bad. You're probably correct. Then the real issue is whether or not TT can be serviceable running the scheme that will be used going forward. There can be some significant development of the rest of the offensive players that will be here long term if he - or another QB on the roster - can do that.