BarleyNY
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Trades at this time of year often involve either:
- paying a premium for talent with a reasonable contract and/or
- taking on an overpriced contract, often for an aging vet at the end of his career.
I'd sure be trying to find a WR if I were the Bills, but I wouldn't go crazy with compensation. There's only a couple guys out there and who knows what the demands for them are?
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If they let him walk after trading up for him....
My worry is if injuries are an issue again for him next season. If that happens I can see him playing out the option year. Or at least that would be a real possibility. I just don't know how you sign him to a big deal if you can't count on him staying healthy. Maybe they could come to terms on a contract that gives him a nice payday, but gives the Bills some protection if he can't stay on the field. But that'd be tough to do since his option year would provide him a nice, guaranteed chunk of cash. Hope he stays healthy and earns a nice contract so we don't have to worry about all of that.
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Sammy gets his Option picked up in April.
Then he plays in 2017, 2018 (UFA after year)
At the same time the Bills can move on from Dareus after the 2018 season with 10M in cap savings
Interesting to me that the same time Sammy will be do his deal the Bills can move on from Dareus
I don't see how the Bills can wait until after the 2018 season to retain Watkins (assuming that they do want to retain him long term). WRs are getting paid stupidly if they hit FA. Some team would give him a crazy deal and with his injury history it'd be prudent to let him walk if his price got that high. If they want him, after the 2017 season is when they can get him at a decent price.
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I'd like to know more about how the cap works with a trade like that.
The team who trades the player away has to eat the cap hit from the remaining prorated signing bonus. All salary and bonus money already paid to the player stays with the old team as well.
The new team takes on all unpaid salary, bonuses, etc.
In this case, trading for Smith would cost the Bills $2.8125M in 2016 and $8M per season from 2017-2019 if they chose to keep him on the team. They could take him as a rental or tryout player this season if they could get him cheap.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/torrey-smith-7777/
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five-year, $40 million contract, not sure how that would fit with the cap
The 49ers would eat the remaining prorated signing bonus cap hit. His salary and per game roster bonuses total $5M this season and we'd only be on the hook for 9/16th of that. So, he'd be easy to fit under the cap this season. Next season gets a little tougher, but it's doable. Details:
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/torrey-smith-7777/
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well played!!!!!
Thanks! Loved your reference.
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I don't think it was a dirty as everyone is making it out to be. In the moment, he's not thinking about things it is, he's trying to be a football player and dish it out.
You could tell he was visibly shaken by what he did.
I hope Aaron or okay but I'm not hating on the hit.
I agree.
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"in the spring there will be growth"--------- Chauncey Gardiner
I like to watch.
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If Aaron was good to go, which he was this season, then he's at the same risk as anyone else out there. It's his decision to keep playing or not. The only thing the Bills could do is release him if they didn't feel comfortable with him out there.
Except that the more concussions someone has, the easier it is for them to have additional concussions and more severe those concussions tend to be. AW is definitely at more risk than the average player.
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Aaron does need to hang it up for long term health reasons. Personally, I don't want to see him take anymore physical punishment. I'm not sure in can take it emotionally. I can't fathom what his family feels like.
Landry did what I saw Hines Ward make a career of. Things are changing in the NFL. A targeting penalty in the future isn't out of the question. Unlike Ward, Landry wasn't grinning ear to ear after the hit. He seemed visibly upset and concerned about Williams. Maybe that was why there was no retaliation.
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The Giants are one of about 4 teams that have gotten very preferential treatment from Goodell. This is just another case of it. Anyone else remember how pissed off the Jets were when they were informed that the league and Giants had the coin flip to determine which team got the first game in the new stadium? No notification to the Jets or representative present. Seems like the Giants won that flip. Now this. I'd love to see Goodell ousted, but I suspect he will dodge another bullet here. He's made the owners too much money. He will be hurt much worse if ratings stay low. I can see that doing him in.
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i thought he was eligible to come off the list this week, but still couldn't play for 3 weeks(or something like that), perhaps I am misremembering the rule
There's a window to activate him that starts today and ends after Week 11. If, for some reason, he wasn't ready by then it's IR or release.
That's close. A team can have a player on PUP start to practice with the team during a window from the day after week 6 to the day after week 11. Once activated they have 21 days to activate to the 53 man squad, IR or release. It is promising that Lawson was activated at the earliest possible time. I was sure it'd be a longer recovery than this. We will know what's up with him in the next few weeks.
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This opens up the AFC even more. It's not inconceivable that they miss the playoffs now opening up a spot for someone else. I have to think this helps our chances.
It didn't look like the AFCN was sending a WC team to the playoffs anyway, but now it seems certain. It's also now even more doubtful that the team winning the AFCN gets a bye. Thats all good news.
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Why does nobody bring up him as injury prone? He has missed big chunks of seasons due to injuries over his career...
Miami taking out future Bills opponent QBs...
He has had injury problems due in part to his style of play. He takes a lot of hits. Early in his career I remember that his passer rating after first contact with a defender was off the charts high - higher than his rating before contact in fact. His ability to extend plays by shaking off defenders raised him from being a good QB to an elite one. He did have an issue in that he often needed to extend plays because it took him a little longer to find his target. That's improved over the years, but he still holds the ball too long at times and the physical punishment may be starting to take its toll.
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November is coming.
treat him. play him. trade him.
You just don't trade your blue chip players. THey are the foundations for championship teams.
You should probably take a look at his contract. He couldn't be traded at this point as it would put the Bills way over the salary cap. Like it or not, Darius definitely is a Bill for the next couple seasons - probably longer.QBs are the foundations for championship teams. You would have to be smoking with Marcel to think the SB is within this teams grasp. Picks not spliffs.
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Seems like Miami is the destination of choice for players who want to cash out and put it on cruise control. Used to be Washington.
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I think he's saying that you can't fault someone for not loving the game.
Its hard not to love football, but some guys just don't.
There are a LOT of players who don't love the game and only play it for the money...you'd be surprised how many...ex players talk about it a lot...
I heard that about Julius Peppers. His teammates said that he could've been an all-time great if he had loved football the way he loved basketball. In general, I can even see some players that came into the league loving football becoming disenchanted with the NFL.
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As Belichick says: 90 percent of games in the NFL are lost, not won.
The Rams lost.
We didn't.
3-2; on to SF.
Yup. They could've blown the game, but they hung in and let the Rams blow it. That's called a "win" when everybody else does it.
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The Amos model seems to be extremely aggressive this year and weights the most recent game very heavily. Since the Pats got shut out by the Bills and sucked in pretty much every category doing so, it's giving Cleveland the nod this week, Also, it has no concept of individual players so it does not know of Tom Terrifics return.
That's makes sense. It explains why AMOS has the Bills winning the AFCE at 11-5 and the Cheatriots finishing in second place at 8-8.
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Lol. Nicely doneWhy you finicky detail-sniffing nabob of negativity you! With Watkins out, OBVIOUSLY a WR who has just been suspended indefinitely and is currently in rehab for juicin' is JUST WHAT THE BILLS NEED! And if OBD disagrees, it's because they're WRONG! They've been WRONG for 16 years so isn't that OBVIOUS?
Is Screwy Louie the reincarnation of Crayonz? He definately has a Crayonz-esque flavor.
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This is lame.
Ryan Grigson says Andrew Luck's contract makes it hard to build a defense: https://t.co/vNT14op3nO
Dan Moriarty Retweeted ProFootballTalk
Embarrassingly weak excuse from a GM w/ next to nothing to hang his hat on aside from drafting lottery ticket he hasn't been able to cash in
Agree with Moriarty totally. Freaking ridiculous excuse by Grigson. He's been horrific both drafting and trading. He gave away a first round pick to Cleveland to acquire epic bust Trent Richardson - after it was obvious to everyone else that he had no field vision.
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Looking at the current status of teams the Bills are facing and my expected outcome. The Rams game will be very pivotal IMO because while they are hot at 3-1 they are also at 63 PF-76 PA. They did manage to beat the Seahawks who are a run first team with a mobile QB. The Rams are 3 1/2 point favs. Should Buffalo prevail on the road while traveling to the west coast and win that Rams game they could end up at 10-6!
@Rams (3-1) L 2-3
49ers (1-3) W 3-3
@Dolphins (1-3) W 4-3
Patriots (3-1) L 4-4
@Seahawks (3-1) L 4-5
BYE
@ Bengals (2-2) W 5-5
Jags W (1-3) 6-5
@ Raiders (3-1) L 6-6
Steelers (3-1) L 6-7
Browns (0-4) W 7-7
Dolphins (1-3) W 8-7
@Jets (1-3) W 9-7
This is pretty much how I see it. I like to look at the season in quarters. I thought 2-2 over the first four games was necessary - as well as the most expected outcome (although they did it a bit differently than I thought). Over the next four, 3-1 gets them to 5-3 which is right on pace for 10-6. It's something that a playoff caliber team should be able to do. If that's what they want to be, they have to beat the mediocre teams. They've got three in a row coming up.
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First off, the Browns are utterly ridiculous in their trade expectations. They wanted a day 2 pick (2nd or 3rd round) a week ago when they knew Gordon was going back to rehab.
But more to the point, Josh Gordon has a serious disease. Football is obviously a trigger for him, every time he gets close to a return to the field he has a relapse episode. This isn't a simple change of scenery issue or a guy who "just needs to grow up" this is an individual who is sick and has proven no capability of being a reliable performer. He's gone long past the potential reward side of the risk/reward equation, he needs however much time he needs away from the game to get right and needs to stop worrying about getting back as soon as possible, if it never happens for him it's a shame but it's not something we need to give up resources to become involved with.
Also Gordon isn't going to be reinstated as previously scheduled, so how could he help the Bills now?
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Dray was terrible last season for the Browns so I was surprised he made the Bills roster this season. I'm glad they found someone better.
Why aren't the Bills being more aggressive during the trade?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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He's a stud player when he's motivated, not injured and not suspended. He's deep into the NFL's drug program and is looking at a very long suspension if he has another failed test. He's also got a lot of guaranteed money in his contract. That all decreases his trade value. The dead money the Bills would have to eat if they were to trade him prohibits them from trading him at this point. This has been pointed out countless times in this board.