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3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
You can go through the back of a wr while the ball is in the air since the qb is out of the pocket? Since when?
Illegal contact is forgiven with the qb out of the pocket but I don't recall when a defender is allowed to go through the back of a wr early and make that play. It was PI and he knew it and couldn't believe it when it wasn't called. He was sitting there waiting for the flag.
When a QB is out of the pocket and a defender is playing the ball, a receiver is not protected from contact.
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1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:
So yes, Shakir was interfered with as you can see in the image...he is hit the ball is not there yet.....But If Allen just stayed in the pocked he had a simple throw for an easy 30 yard TD to Curtis Samuel. Not sure why Josh bailed on good protection.
Shakir was 100% hit early and also as you can see in the other image Allen was hit in the head after the throw. Everything was called in this game and they let these go for some reason. There is simply no explanation for it.
TO Be Clear the second picture the ball in front of shakir was on its way to him not bouncing off. It was as obvious as it gets that it was PI why the whistle was swallowed who knows?
Allen was out of the pocket. Once the QB leaves the pocket receivers are no longer protected from being contacted by defenders who are playing the ball. The Pats DB played the ball. No call was correct. Had Allen stayed in the pocket, then DPI would have been the correct call.
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10 hours ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:
That was soooo DPI on Shakir it’s crazy they never even showed a slowed down replay on it. The league benefits greatly off this Pats win. The excitement in Boston over this game will translate into greater profit.
Lotta people saying this, but Allen was out of the pocket. Once that the quarterback is out of the pocket, receivers are no longer protected from being contacted by defenders who are playing the ball. The Pats DB played the ball. No call was correct.
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10 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Agree....he's not broadcasting anymore games this season.
Or ever.
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7 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:
He was very good. Not elite. That throw he made to Diggs when it looked like he was going to be sacked was an Allen/Mahomes type throw.
He does have the physical traits that many elite QB's have. The question is whether he can put it all together. If he does, he can be a top 5 QB and the Bills are in trouble.
Agreed. Maye made his 17th NFL start yesterday. Lotta room to grow. He didn’t look like all that in the first half, but he was elite in the second. If he can consistently play at that level, then he’s a top tier QB.
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2 hours ago, Another Fan said:
Yes, while that may seem like a silly statement..... another one of the most EPIC fails IMO in somewhat recent Bills history was a White Out game as well.
Week 8 Jets vs Bills 2011. The Bills were 5-2 and trying to make a statement to be a solid 1st place team with half the season left. Instead they got their butts kicked by the Jets and only won one more game that whole season. Rex then put together a game plan that shut down the Bills offense other teams followed. And yeah that game I remember being a white out at the stadium.
So yeah that loss was on whose ever brilliant idea it was to try this again. Bad Karma
It was the team/league looking to sell some cold front jerseys. Gotta get those incremental sales.
Incidentally Penn State also had a whiteout and lost, which isn’t unusual. They have a lot of whiteout games and their record in those games is not impressive.
Personally, I think it’s a stupid look. White flags are for surrendering. They are the polar opposite of intimidating.
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1 hour ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:
We turned the ball over three times. That is the reason we lost the game. Other than not being able to cover Stefon Diggs we did a pretty good job on defense. Maye made some insannnnne plays
Exactly. Teams that are -2 in turnovers in a game only win 16% of the time. Last night the Bills were the better team in a lot of ways, but the Pats did a great job taking the ball away.
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16 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
so nfl teams don’t have info from the nfl and they rely on a third party website?
My understanding is that teams only discuss their own cap figures directly with the league. That is by sending contracts to the league for approval. Virtually all of the important contract information is in the public space via the NFLPA, agents and media which filters into sites like OTC and Spotrac.
Teams would prefer to have their own contract info confidential so agents would not know what they have to spend - and the cheaper franchises don’t want their fans to know they’re not spending. But players and agents want it all out in the public sphere so they can squeeze more out of teams. Teams also want to see what every other team is doing so they know where the market is. So it pretty much all comes out. I also suspect that the league doesn’t want to be responsible for sending out every team’s financial/cap info to every other team.
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37 minutes ago, djp14150 said:
The police reports said the late 60s yr old guy had an alcohol smell on his breath.
I think you misread that. The 69 year old man told police that he smelled alcohol on Sanchez’s breath. Notably the 69 year old man has not been charged with anything, but Sanchez has been arrested for battery with injury, unlawful entry of a motor vehicle and public intoxication.
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9 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:
Bumping this with quick question:
My fellow nerds who lurk Sportrac from time to time, anybody has an idea what they changed last couple of days? 2 days ago the had us about $2M over, and now they have us $2.8M under. Anybody knows where did that come from? Is there a new restructure? I don't see any and I don't see any other reasonable option. But I am sure they did something lol.
@DrDawkinstein @ColoradoBills @BillsFanForever19
Over the cap has us at about $2.3M in space. They are consistently more accurate than Spotrac and are the site NFL teams utilize for info on other teams.
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21 minutes ago, galept said:
It's hard for me to be away from certain groups I'm close with. Moved West to Denver, and not meeting face to face was why I moved back East.
I lived in China for a bit, it's certainly affordable. My loans are steep so I don't think a remote job that can afford them is realistic, but I wouldn't truly know until I dipped my feet.
I forgot to add my family is from Dunkirk, I saw you were born there. We used to have a house in the Harrysburg neighborhood on Lake Shore Dr West.
Wife’s best friend’s family had a place on the water in Van Buren Bay for many years. Had some good times up there.
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29 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:
Murray yes size is an issue. But It’s more leadership and body language and perceived arrogance. Just doesn’t seem accountable.
Agree that’s the case now. I don’t remember if it was a known concern when he came out though. Can’t imagine it was or taking him #1 overall was an even worse mistake than I thought.
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On 10/4/2025 at 10:14 AM, dave mcbride said:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6677047/2025/10/02/jj-mccarthy-sam-darnold-vikings-seahawks/
A sample:
‘When the Vikings were winning with Darnold last season, I asked a veteran coach to watch the Vikings' offense in hopes of learning just how well Darnold was playing. The coach thought there was a big gap between Darnold's impressive 2024 stats and how well he was actually playing for Minnesota. We found relatively few high-level plays in the games we watched.
That same coach could not believe he was watching the same quarterback when he flipped through the Seahawks' offensive plays with Darnold this season.
"The whole thing was Tier 1," this coach said. "No one we know is throwing better than that."
Play after play showed Darnold delivering the ball accurately and with nuance, including against the rush.
"He used to be jittery in there," the coach said. "Now, he stands in there and looks down the barrel. A couple times, he jumped and threw like (Aaron) Rodgers does. He dropped to three-quarters (delivery)."
Was this really the same player?
"The deep ball has been accurate, making sure they can catch the ball and assuring the yardage," the coach said. "He's throwing it correctly into the short zones to keep his guys alive, which is interesting. He is leading receivers away from the hook defender, making the guy slide on the digs. He's way better. I'm so impressed."’
Thank you for posting. It is an excellent article. I’m gonna have to watch some Seahawks games.
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18 minutes ago, SoTier said:
Thanks for the info on his height. It might very well be the reason Gabriel was never considered as a first round pick. Maybe the Browns catch lightning in a bottle like the Seahawks did in 2012 when Wilson fell to the third round because he was dismissed because of his height.
Agreed. The Browns have their defense set. in addition to a QB, they also need a lot of OL help and another quality starting WR, but they can do that in one offseason - especially with two first round picks next draft. If they did find their QB in Gabriel then they’re a year away IMO.
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8 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
Dylan Gabriel is Kyler Murray small.
When I saw Gabriel play at Oregon I checked his height because there had to be a reason he wasn’t in early first round consideration. 5’11”. So third round makes a lot of sense. Murray is 5’10-1/8”. Even with his running ability I didn’t understand Arizona spending the first overall pick on him.
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5 hours ago, Jerome007 said:
HAD to stab him? Unless Sanchez had a weapon too, that's quite a stretch
Some more info is out. Reportedly, the delivery driver is 69 years old. So self defense with pepper spray and then a knife seems very appropriate (to say the least) if he was attacked by a 38 year old former NFL player as alleged.
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Quote from The Athletic. The article mentions that police has reviewed video footage of the incident:
Sanchez is accused of battery with injury, unlawful entry of a motor vehicle and public intoxication. Police said they arrested Sanchez at the hospital, where he remains. He has not been booked into jail, and the Marion County Prosecutor’s Office will make the final charging decision, according to police.
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8 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:
I mean not for nothing but in my experience those two things are not mutually exclusive 😅Fair to say that we should wait to hear both sides before leaping to any conclusions - myself included. Even the part about Sanchez being non cooperative with police could have to do with him having been stabbed. I’m sure the cops did toxicology tests on both parties.
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2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:
Sanchez was 6-2 230 in his playing days. That guy starts swinging id pull a knife too
And let’s remember that we’re talking about a Door Dash driver who was trying to make a delivery, not some drunk troublemaker. The worst thing he did prior to Sanchez approaching him was possibly parking in the wrong spot for what would’ve been a minute or two.
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42 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I think Kyle knows that offense better than anyone. And it has developed somewhat from the Mike version. McVay is a derivative of the Kyle Shanahan offense. And his record of shutting the Rams down is pretty good.
Both have developed their own versions of the Mike Shanahan offense. At least that’s what they both said in the podcast series I mentioned.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
It has also long been the case that the person who best knows how to stop Sean McVay's offense is Kyle Shanahan. Which is because it isn't really McVay's offense. It's Shanahan's.
It’s MIKE Shanahan’s offense. Both Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay are part of his tree and run their own versions of his offense. Many others do as well. It’s not some exclusive club where these two are the only members. NFL coaches know what their schemes are about and some do well defending them. They do have a healthy rivalry and beating the other does seem personal.
I highly recommend Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic’s podcast series on them and the other “piss boys” (aka Mike Shanahan disciples of their time). It’s called “The Playcallers” and is free.
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1 minute ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
They screwed the pooch big time on that one. Mac Jones threw for 342 yards 2 TDs & no picks against one of the better defenses in the league. If he continues this production for a few more games then Shanahan is going to have a big decision to make.
I was actually worried when Mac Jones went to the Patriots. I’m not a big college football fan, but I love to see Alabama and other SEC powerhouses duke it out. While he didn’t have the physical tools, I thought his accuracy & mechanics were phenomenal. You saw these things break down a bit facing the much bigger & faster pro pass rushers.
Sometimes we see players of all positions that were previously busts go to a new environment and succeed. And what better place for a quarterback than San Francisco? Real talk, if I was a struggling QB, I would do everything in my power to work Shanahan. Guy is a literal QB whisperer. Mac looked sharp, decisive, and in total command last night. Definitely worth keeping an eye on their situation.
Agreed. Jones was smart to go to Shanny to turn his career around. Becoming the next Kirk Cousins would be very lucrative for him.
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4 minutes ago, EssexBill said:
No white flags though, the French have got a monopoly on those 😁
Every time I see a white out football game my first thought is that they’re surrendering.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
No lie. The Browns were interested in signing Mac Jones this past offseason, but he wanted to work with Shanahan. They both run a Shanahan style offense and it’s the one Jones should be in.
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Defensive pass interference rule in 2025
in The Stadium Wall
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Doesn’t matter if the defender caught the ball - or even tried to catch it. Whether or not it’s DPI or “no call” rests on whether the refs think the defender was playing the ball or not. The DB got his hand on the ball so it would be tough for me to say he wasn’t playing the ball.