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12 minutes ago, first_and_ten said:
Right in that very article:
A spokeswoman for the Lexington police said the department did not have a report matching a sexual assault allegation against Hairston. A spokesperson for the Fayette County Sheriff's Office did not immediately respond to requests for comment Wednesday.
Conflicting reports. Or maybe she spoke with campus police o the Fayette County Sheriff’s office.
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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
It is NOT suspect. He literally had nothing before this so there was no point in a civil lawsuit until now.
The bigger timing tip-off is how she went to the police IMMEDIATELY.
Even now that they can, I'd be surprised if they did since there were no criminal charges.
Agree with all of this. No criminal charges, only one alleged victim and no big PR issues means the NFL is better letting this one go. No need to keep it in the ews.
5 minutes ago, first_and_ten said:I could be wrong, but I read the police had no record of a reported sexual assault. I know she claims that she reported it, but I read that the police had no record of a sexual assault from her.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45644674/woman-accuses-bills-maxwell-hairston-sexual-assault
This article says that she reported the alleged assault “within hours” to law enforcement.
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On 6/30/2025 at 11:50 AM, Einstein said:
Wow that sounds so lame.
And the "expected to come" part is pretty funny. "uh, yeah, we think these people might show up"And the price of entry is $30!?
I assumed that those listed as “expected to come” are the people that bought tickets already.
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Either Aaron Rodgers at this point in his career, Kyler Murray or Trevor Lawrence.
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26 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I'd rather have Ramsey on the Dolphins than Fitzpatrick.
Josh shreds Ramsey. Fitzpatrick is a very competent player.
Players gotta watch their knees around Fitzpatrick too. Nick Chubb was killing the Steelers in the game Fitzpatrick took his knee out. We’re all still waiting to see if Chubb will be able to even get close to the same player he was.
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7 hours ago, BigDingus said:
Is that really an issue? I know WNY isn't a huge market, but it's not all about population size with some of these franchises. Like MLB teams in Miami & Tampa Bay, the Islanders in NHL, the Wizards or Suns in the NBA, etc. all have big markets, but they're lower in attendance than most of the leagues they play in. Meanwhile, you have Cleveland, not a huge city, supporting an NBA, NFL & MLB, having great attendance, all with Cincinnati just 3.5 hours away with their own NFL & MLB teams.
It's often just about team success, other times it's about fan loyalty over sheer numbers. In terms of loyalty, look at New Orleans. I doubt the average person living there makes much more money than those in WNY, yet the Pelicans had the 3rd highest NBA attendance & the Saints had the 14th highest NFL attendance.
I think Buffalo can definitely support the Sabres, it's just that they've been terrible for too long, and the organization hasn't done anything to inspire confidence things will improve.
I think that there’s something to my speculation. You are correct that WNY is big enough to support both the Bills and Sabres. And that the Sabres’ longtime ineptitude has worn away loyalty and sapped any enthusiasm. That’s a big part of the problem. But what I’m talking about is the bet the Pegula’s would have to make on turning the Sabres around - and the possible financial outcomes.
It reminds me a lot of what happened in Cleveland in 1995. The Browns were on their way out of town and the Cavs were terrible. Indians owner, Dick Jacobs, saw an opportunity. He had a beautiful new stadium, some good homegrown talent and Cleveland had a huge hole in the sports market. So he took a chance and spent large on filling out his roster. The Indians went from being ann perpetually inept team and drawing a few thousand fans every game to an MLB powerhouse that drew celebrities to the city and sold out 455 straight games. But Jacobs said he would not have tried it all if the Browns had stayed and been competitive. There just wasn’t room in the market.
It would be one thing if the Sabres had stayed a competent and competitive team. They’d have a fan base that was engaged and spending money at games. But they’re nowhere close. They would really have to do something to convince the fans to come back and spend. That would mean investing large early and in continuation to have a chance to be good enough to bring back fans. That’s a big dollar gamble with no certainty of a payout.
If you are Pegula, why take that gamble now? When you’re also selling PSLs to the same fan base? When you’re pouring cash into the Bills team and stadium? When the fans are already spending on the Bills? you can’t tell me that if the Sabres were as good as the Bills that many fans would not have to make a choice between which one to get season tickets for or that games attended for one would not impact games attended for the other. It would for many. So why take a very large gamble on the Sabres now instead of when the payout would be bigger?
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9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
I'm pretty sure the goal of any professional sports franchise is win championships sustainability and return on investment
The pegulas are doing nothing groundbreaking there
Yeah, I don’t think anyone was debating that. Including funding your family’s lifestyle on your list of goals while aggressively downsizing and asking those that remain to take on more work is extremely tone deaf though. The article pointed out that according to many it did not help morale there.
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42 minutes ago, Doc said:
Kind of like reports of the slide showing “preserve lifestyle”…And if Terri is in such dire straits, he would just sell the Sabres immediately and/or more minority ownership in the Bills.
That slide was obtained and verified by The Athletic. See for yourself:
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6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I can only speak about record sales. Ever hear of Kelsea Ballerini? Her last album debuted #1 on the country charts. Also Black River Entertainment also holds publishing rights to 36 #1 chart songs.
That all great, but it doesn’t mean they’re making a profit. They may be, but it’s by no means a given - especially in that industry. You seemed certain so I thought you may have had some insight, but you were just speculating based on the popularity of some of their artists. And that’s a good thing obviously. I doubt it much matters when it comes to their sports franchises anyway.
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33 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
For the record, that "silly" record label is actually successful.
How do you know it’s successful? It is not a public company so its financials are not known.
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I think that Pegula realizes that there’s a limited number of dollars people in WNY have to spend on sports. If the Sabres were as good as the Bills, then a lot more people would be making decisions about where to spend their money between the two
It would take a lot of money up front and more in continuation to get the Sabres to a point where they’d be truly competitive. If you are strictly looking at maximizing profit, then why push with the Sabres now?
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
I'd sell the Sabres if I were him. Laughing stock.
Through every fault his own.
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31 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Im sure beane has offered a fair and realistic contract. So far Cook,his dumb ass brother and I guess agent, are still in fantasy land.
Honestly, maybe the Bills and Cook’s camp are both correct. Realistically, players like him often get overpaid when they hit FA. These days not RBs so much, but it happens. Barring a bad injury I would bet that some bad team will overpay Cook next off-season. At minimum he should get about what he would from the Bills. So he’s gambling on himself having a good year and it getting injured. I’ve got no problem with that.
This all doesn’t mean that the Bills aren’t handling this correctly too though. They appear to have his value properly determined. We don’t know for sure because we don’t have those numbers, but judging by the other contracts they handed out this off-season I’d say they’re probably offering something that is more than fair. Sometimes things don’t work out. And that’s okay.
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41 minutes ago, DJB said:
Should have drafted Henderson and moved on from Cook while getting a comp pick back
a team doesn’t get a comp pick unless they have a player whose contract expires AND that player signs a qualifying contract from another team AND your team signs fewer FAs to qualifying contracts. Cook’s rookie deal expires after THIS season.
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On 6/15/2025 at 8:12 AM, Neo said:
Fun topic. However, I think setting the amount at $500 is similar to setting the over/under for a Bills Lions game at 11. That, of course, begs the question of me. What amount would I propose as a difficult choice? My answer is $12 grand. Not because I’m fancy or rich, but because I have dozens of deep personal relationships with friends and family, in Buffalo and elsewhere, where Bills fandom is one of the most powerful mutual bonds. A Super Bowl win would bring months of joy and years of satisfaction.
What’s the $12k up against? No SB win for how long? Life? 1 season?
On 6/14/2025 at 1:36 PM, SirAndrew said:I think that putting a specific price tag on this doesn’t work. It depends too much on each individual’s financial status, age, and level of greed. The real question should be, is there ANY amount of money you’d take for the Bills never win a Super Bowl? I love this team, but if your answer is no, you’re too insanely devoted imo.
Or better yet, what’s everyone’s individual number for no SB in your lifetime? What about your and your kids’ lifetime? Assume tax-free/after tax for ease of discussion.
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Without Allen and no one else brought in to play QB, I say around 5 wins. With Trubisky behind center we’d have the worse starting QB in almost every game. There’s a reason he didn’t get a sniff as even a bridge QB somewhere and he’s here making $2.6M/year. That’s what NFL GMs think of him.
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Sirens was just recommended to my wife by a friend. It’s on our list to start watching next.
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1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:
The downside of the strategy you describe is that the Bills got middling returns on Devin Singletary and Zack Moss and it's too early to say how Ray Davis will pan out.
The James Cook pick appears to be a home run and if they let him walk, he'll more likely be replaced with another Singletary/Moss/Davis than another James Cook.
The argument implied by many here is that the Bills can get 90% of Cook's productivity at a fraction of the cost... but that 10% productivity loss might be the difference between a true weapon and just another solid back.
I don’t actually think Cook is as valuable as most here. His workload and usage doesn’t warrant a premium contract IMO. Over the last two seasons the Bills found the right usage. He broke down in 2023 and the Bills reduced his usage in 2024, which worked well. I have broken this down a couple times already but it equated to about 50% of snaps in competitive situations in 2024. By contrast, Barkley plays nearly 100% of snaps while games are competitive.
His usage is probably even more important. Cook is a 1st and 2nd down player. He’s not on the field for obvious passing downs or for obvious running downs. No 3rd/4th and short. No goal to go from short either. He wasn’t on the field for 3rd downs or obvious passing downs because he’s only an okay receiver and he’s poor at pass protection. He’s also not on the field at the end of close games when we are running the ball to close it out.
So what does Cook do well? 1st & 10 or 2nd and 5, he’s been really good. He's kept the load off of Allen and that certainly has value. But I dare say that there are a lot of RBs that could be effective in those situations with Allen at QB keeping defenses honest. And of all the high leverage situations on offense, Cook isn’t on the field for any of them. So I just don’t think a premium contract anywhere close to $15M AAV can be justified.
In short, even if Cook does give us an extra 10% on plays (and that’s debatable) it’s got less value on the plays he’s in for than it would on the higher leverage ones that he’s on the bench for.
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50 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Fair enough.
Here are the contracts that I believe were wild over pays the last 3 years.
Allen Lazard 4 for 44M
DHop 2 for 26M
OBJ 1 for 15M
Harty 2 for 9.5M
Samuel 3 for 24M
Gabe 3 for 39M
Diggs 3 for 63M (technically less I know)
Adams 2 for 44M
Palmer 3 for 29M
I wouldn’t have wanted the Bills to do any of these deals. Agree?
These are the majority of big deals signed from 2023 to now. They are mostly bad. I think it’s a bad market.
I am not going to dig into all of those. But teams usually overpay in free agency - especially at the very start. I do remember being shocked that OBJ got $15M from the Ravens for one season. His one year $3M from Miami is much more in line with what he’s worth now.
I am going to lump the Bills’ signings of Palmer, Samuel and Harty together. I’m on record saying they were all overpays - though with Samuel it was more injury risk than ability. OTOH I think the Elijah Moore contract is a very good deal. The timing of those deals should be noted. The first three were done at the very beginning of free agency. Moore’s was after the market had settled.
I think the Bills have been willing to overpay to make sure they fill the roles they want for their offense. They really don’t want to take any chances on taking a step back. They are one of the highest cash spending teams so that mitigates the issues overspending would typically bring. But they aren’t maximizing the use of their spending though.
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30 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Aieee.
If Darnell Mooney had better QB play in 2023 and put up 800 yards and 7 TDs, would he have gotten more or less money than he did?
Are we pretending like teams don’t care about production at all?
Like I said, for the 10th time, obviously the evaluation for a player like Mooney went beyond his production. Otherwise he would have gotten less money.
I think his contract would have been about the same. Now, would he be a player for teams to look at and think “Hey, maybe we can get a deal here since his numbers don’t match his actual performance.” But there were obviously enough teams that actually did their homework on him to get his market to where it should have been.
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39 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
I've been looking at this thread off and on. You're correct about what you're saying, and it even goes beyond that and.
It isn't simply about evaluating film of the player in question, and it certainly isn't about paying for past performance. It's about how a team wants its offense to work and what kind of talent best fits that offensive philosophy. How much more poorly will the offense perform, for example, with Davis carrying the load at running back rather than Cook.
And it even goes beyond that. It's also about how best to spend the limited dollars that are available. The real question is how much better will my team perform per dollar invested in any particular player. That's why quarterbacks get more dollars than other positions, because the quality of the quarterback has a bigger impact on the quality of the teams play than the quality of the running back. That's why left tackles get paid more than guards.
I think in the Bills case they have made it very clear that at least relative to other teams, they think the quality of the team is best improved by spending dollars on positions other than wide receiver and running back. All of this means that discussions that view Cook in a vacuum and that look simply about how good he is and how much the Bills need to pay to keep him are more simplistic than the actual conversations that are taking place at One Bills Drive.
Well said. And while we all can argue whether the Bills SHOULD be building the team that way, there shouldn’t be any debate about the fact that they ARE building it that way.
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32 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Yeah, they were right, and the Jags were wrong. They could have been wrong and the Jags right. NONE of them knew it at the time.
That doesn’t make the market any less wild for a guy with back to back 400 yard seasons. That’s Josh Palmer production.
FWIW, I liked Mooney as an offseason target, and thought he would be overlooked because of how putrid Justin Fields is, but he got the same deal that a twice as productive WR on a Super Bowl contender got.
To me, that’s evidence the WR market is kinda nuts. Maybe you disagree. That’s cool
I see that you are still bringing up previous seasons’ yardage as your only argument wrt to these WR contracts. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.
As for Davis, I said it was a terrible contract at the time. That was based on watching him play every NFL game he had played to that point - not his yardage. So, yes, the Jags made a big mistake. The brass there probably felt pressured to make a move at WR because they were all on the chopping block. That’s a prime place for market inefficiencies to show up. But it isn’t indicative of the broader market. It’s an outlier.
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16 minutes ago, FireChans said:
No one said they just looked at yardage.
what we both know they didn’t look at is what they did AFTER they signed the contract. Same thing with Ridley.
Then why do you keep brining up their previous yardage as support for your argument that teams overpaid them? One of us realizes that teams properly evaluated those players and paid them accordingly. Obviously their performances with their new teams supports that.
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12 hours ago, FireChans said:
Of course they do.
Usually, those projections are based on past performance at the time of signing. Not future performance that is completely unknowable at the time of signing.
So saying Darnell Mooney got paid by the Falcons because he had a 1000 yard season with the Falcons is completely nonsensical.
Wow. This is pretty rudimentary stuff. I’m surprised to see you have so much trouble with it. You have a terrible misunderstanding of how NFL scouting works if you think pro personnel scouts simply look a WR’s previous yardage totals to determine their value. They look at film to determine how well that player is doing their job, independent of how those around them perform. They saw that Mooney, for example, was performing well even though his QB wasn’t and the offense he was in was a joke. So they paid him like a 1k WR - and lo and behold - that what he turned out to be for them in their offense.
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Exactly. So many fans get excited about every draft pick and year after year assume many will make significant contributions. I’m not sure how they miss how rare that is - especially when teams are without a high first round pick. It would not be difficult to find year old posts predicting that Coleman, Bishop and Carter would vastly improve our passing game and defense. That certainly wasn’t the case. I hope our 2025 rookies all hit big, but assuming big contributions from the class - especially in year 1 - is not realistic. An Eagle (or any other) fan assuming that none make a big difference this season is simply paying attention to the odds.