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    2025 NFL Draft thread - Round 1

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    7 minutes ago, Mango said:

     

    I don't understand why in these first picks they don't announce immediately and then let the kid talk for 6-7 minutes. Forget Kiper.

    The league tells teams to take their time. This is a big commercial for NFL players and teams. They want to milk it for all the PR they can. 

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    Bills strategy for the draft

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    3 hours ago, WhiskyBreath said:

    Our GM has generated quite a bit of ammunition:

    • A late pick in round 1.
    • 2 picks in round 2
    • 2 picks in round 4
    • 3 picks in round 5
    • 2 picks in round 6

     

    We do not have picks in rounds 3 and 7.

     

    I would be inclined to consider giving up our pick in round 1, and one of our picks in round 2, in exchange for moving up in round 1 and getting a pick in round 3.  Could offer a pick in rounds 4, 5 or 6 as well, provided we get the right guy in round 1.  Question is how much higher can we pick in round 1 with this ammunition. 

     

    We also could tade down in round 1 in exchange for another round 2 pick and a round 3 pick.

     

    I have faith in Beane and a lot depends on who is available as the draft progresses.  But, if you were the GM, what would you consider doing?

     

    So much depends on how players come off the board. In recent years the picks have become “chalkier” in the first round so we should have a good idea of how things play out. Still, there are always some surprises and teams need to be flexible. Really, that’s all a GM can do. Lay the groundwork for moves up and down the board and make moves according to circumstances. 

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    Would you be OK with a smaller/lighter NFL version of the play in tournament like the NBA has?

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    So which would be better:

     

    A) Current format with one team in each conference getting a bye and seven teams making the playoffs

     

    B) A post season play in round where seeds 7-10 play each other for the last two playoff spots. 10 teams in each conference make it beyond the regular season and 8 make the official playoffs. 6 teams effectively get a bye. 

     

    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think I like option B better and by a fair bit. But with one important caveat - elimination of divisions. Every team plays every other team in the conference plus 2 (or 3) opposing conference teams on a rotating basis. Seeding is by record. I guess point differential would be the tie breaker. 

     

    If we’re going to have teams that are .500 (or worse) make the post season, then making those teams win another game to get in to the actual playoffs would be fine with me. I’d rather see that then an 18th regular season game. 

    Von Miller's House For Sale

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    24 minutes ago, US Egg said:

    People here don’t need it to be bath water warm to enjoy cooling off on hot days.
     

    It’s not optimism, it’s a case of not being soft and needing to be pampered.

    If that were true then I’d see the pools get a lot more use. But if we want to set aside the jokes and be honest, I think that people in Buffalo really embrace what little Summer they have here. Even when the weather isn’t optimal they get outside to do stuff more than in most places. And I like that about Buffalonians. 

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    Von Miller's House For Sale

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    16 hours ago, Augie said:

     

    I’m not arguing or taking a position, this is just an observation: Every time I fly into Buffalo I am surprised when I look down and see so many pools! Both in-ground and above ground, there are far more pools than I would have expected. 

    We were surprised by the percentage of houses with pools in Buffalo when we moved here. Buffalonians are an optimistic group.

    Draft as many of these 7 DTs as possible

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    Posted · Edited by BarleyNY

    2 hours ago, Special K said:

    I don't want to make it a big thing, but you might want to re-read the first two sentences of your original post........

     

    You basically said "I don't understand why people want to draft multiple DT's when we already have these guys on the roster."

    Can you understand the difference between drafting one, two or even three DTs (or drafting seven) and drafting none? It seems like you can't. 

    1 hour ago, Bills aPHILLYate said:

     

    I think your initial response came off as it's gonna be a numbers game and thus there wasn't much justification for doubling down on DT.

     

    Personally I am all for at least 6 defensive players being selected; of which 2 being DT (more specifically a 1T)

     

    We need massive upgrades there and nobody on the roster currently makes me feel that we can ignore that position or not continue to invest in it.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I took care to lay out how drafting one, two or even three DTs would have to work.  

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    Draft as many of these 7 DTs as possible

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    2 minutes ago, Special K said:

     

    DaQuan Jones is a candidate to be cut after the Draft if they draft his replacement, Larry O is one a 1 year contract, and thanks to his suspension, could amount to nothing more than insurance if someone else gets hurt.....having those two guys on the roster should not prohibit the Bills from drafting multiple talented DT's in a draft stacked with DT talent, IMO.

     

    I would think that if it were to happen, Jones would not be released until after week 6. Still, if your plan is O-Gun plus a rookie then that rookie better be phenomenal because if you think Jones is washed, then you’re going to hate seeing O-Gun on the field. If you’re thinking we’re getting rid of Jones and O-Gun and going with two rookies at 1 tech, then you’re not living in reality. That would be pure maleficence by the Bills.

    Draft as many of these 7 DTs as possible

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    1 hour ago, LEBills said:

    I went through all DTs selected to the All-pro team and/or Pro Bowl from 2013-2025 to see if I could find any similarities in their background pre-draft.

     

    In that timeframe 37 different players were selected. Of that group 25 (67%) of the individuals selected met one of the two following criteria. However, since many of the players were nominated multiple times, those who hit this criteria made up over 82% of the total selections.

     

    Production: At least 5 sacks recorded in a single college season by their true Junior year AND a RAS greater than 7

     

    Speed: A Sub 5.0 40 and/or a sub 1.7 10 yard split while weighing more than 295 pounds

     

     

    So who meets these criteria in this draft class?

     

    Production:

    Josh Farmer, Florida State

    CJ West, Indiana

    Walter Nolen, Ole Miss*

    Tyleik Williams, Ohio State*

     

    Speed:

    Derrick Harmon, Oregon

    Darius Alexander, Toldeo

    TJ Sanders, South Carolina

    CJ West, Indiana
     

    Commentary:

    The most important factor in success is obviously draft capital. So in this class and past draft classes, I focused on those drafted by the end of day 2.
     

    First, what a DT class this is! The previous record for DTs who met one of these criteria was 5 players each in 2019 and 2018 (8 of those 10 are making over 10 million per year on their current contracts). 
     

    Now there are obviously players who succeed that didn’t meet those criteria so scouting is still needed. But for your best shot at finding a star, this is the group to focus on in my opinion.

     

    * = no RAS

    ^ = small school prospect

     

    I see so many posts like this - saying that the Bills should draft several DTs. But not a single one of them explains where on the roster they’re going to fit. The Bills have always carried either 4 or 5 DTs on the 53. As of now we have Jones, Oliver, Carter and O-Gun (after game 6) that will all make the team. Logue will probably be a PS player. Hoecht has also dropped inside, but he’s out until Game 7 too. To me that leaves open a single spot at 1 Tech and a single PS spot - or two at most if they carry two there and Logue gets beat out. The only other possibility is that they’re already giving up on Carter and he gets replaced. He did nothing last season so that probably isn’t zero. So my plan would be a 1 tech on day one or two and another developmental 1 tech in a late round. I also see no issue with one 3 Tech if they aren’t comfortable with Carter, but that has to be with the understanding that either the rookie or Carter won’t make the 53. 

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    Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

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    1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

    I think it's DT 1st and wouldn't rule out a trade up. Then CB and. WR.  we brought in too many WR not to be a 2nd round target.  AND even McDermott noted in his year end presser that we need to stretch the field vertically 

    I could see that too. But it depends on how the board falls. My concerns about this draft center around where the runs are going to be and the Bills reaching for positions because of them. Obviously they are happy to make moves up when those runs happen, but that doesn’t always work out. Sometimes you wind up with an Elam that way. I’d rather they be more aggressive and get a better prospect even if it means not filling every hole with a first or second round pick. Time to change up the usual tactics. 

     

    Edit: The other position I think the Bills should consider in the first two rounds is Edge. They have a pretty glaring need there IMO. 

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    Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

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    2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

    Wait so we all want to double dip at DT now after everyone hated the mock? 
     

    Anyway, I still 100% believe the first pick will be a corner unless Harmon is there or the hey go after Golden. Probably DT in the second. Not sure what happens after that. 

    I agree that CB will likely be our first pick. If not, then definitely in the 2nd. As for DTs, I’m not sure how the Bills would manage the roster if they took two early. The most they’ve kept on the 53 is 5 and often it’s been 4. Oliver and Jones seem like locks. Ditto O-Gun after week 6. Hoecht may see time inside too (after week 6). Carter was a round 3 pick last year. I have seen nothing from him so they might want to move on already, but if that is not the case then I don’t see room for two rookies. One early and one later day 3 for the PS and/or to push Carter would make more sense to me. I think an early swing at an Edge makes a lot more sense than that second DT. 

    Derek Carr, possibly out for 2025

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    1 hour ago, FireChans said:

    Olave is a concussion away from retiring. 
     

    How much would you give up for that kind of player?

    His concussion history (five since 2020, I believe) would make him relatively cheap in trade. You don’t often find a WR of his caliber (when healthy) available at the kind of discount he’d warrant at this point. I do not think he’s a great fit for the Bills because of that uncertainty, but he’d be the best WR on the team if we did acquire him. As long as he stayed healthy, that is.

     

    Now, if I were a team that is rebuilding I’d definitely take a shot at him so long as the trade compensation is as reasonable as I think it would be. This is year 4 of his rookie deal so a decision has to be made soon on his 5th year option. That’ll probably be about $15M. So that factors into it too. Is your team willing to take that risk? One last thing - I don’t know Olave’s feelings, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he wanted to move on. Carr is not the QB that I’d want to have throwing me the ball if I was worried about taking unnecessary hits. 

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    Bond out on bond

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    27 minutes ago, Gugny said:


    I have never hid from the hypocrisy of it. 
     

    It’s an entertainment league. It entertains me. 
     

    Hollywood is also full of scum and most of us still watch movies/TV. 

     

    Looking past horrible behavior is just what our society has taught us … especially if it entertains us. 
     

    🤷‍♂️

    It’s true of just about any business really. 

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    Deshaun Watson suffers 2nd achillies rupture

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    40 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:

    When the Browns signed OBJ, it began the demise of Mayfield in Cleveland. 

     

    OBJ divided the locker room. Mayfield supporters were drowned out. The Browns thought they both had to go & start fresh.

     

     

    Yeah. It didn’t help that Mayfield needed to grow up. He has made strides there and has become a better QB and I’m guessing leader. 

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