BarleyNY
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With the 54th pick in the draft the Cleveland Browns select Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama.
@Doc Brown is in the clock for Miami
Burton has first round talent. I have him as my WR4 from that perspective, but I keep hearing about “off the field issues”. The problem is they no one is talking about what those are. In any event the talent is too great to pass up here.
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2 hours ago, Logic said:
The thing that bothers ME, if anything, is this:
When Diggs was a Bill, all we heard about was how he was a diva, a malcontent, a headache, and was maybe showing his age last year and no longer a number one receiver.
Now that he's a Texan, he's the weapon that's gonna put them over the top, they're favorites in the AFC, he's still a #1 WR, and the Bills got fleeced.
Like...which is it? Pick a lane.It all does seem disingenuous.
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34 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
I don't bother to listen to any of the talking bobbleheads. It helps.
I stay away from the “shouty shows” but sports radio is good white noise for me. I don’t really have to pay attention and it is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things so it doesn’t have the same strain as the important stuff.
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24 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Let me re-frame this:
Why do you think it was Diggs who chose the Texans? Do you believe another team offered more and was rejected?
Which brings up the follow-on question: If that's true, what was the leverage Diggs possessed that allowed him to choose? Did Diggs have a trade approval clause in his contract?
Firstly, we all have seen how an unhappy Diggs acts toward his team. We saw it in Minnesota and we saw it here. Same guy. Same playbook. So no team was going to trade for him unless their expectation was that he wanted to be there and would be happy there. So Diggs had to sign off on his acceptable teams. The Texans were either that singular team or one on a short list of teams. So he chose the Texans, potentially along with others.
At that point it would’ve been up to the team(s) to negotiate with Beane. I highly doubt that it was a coincidence that the Texans traded with Minnesota and acquired the pick they traded for Diggs just prior. That was the compensation that got the deal done. It’s probable that it’s what the Texans had to do to match or beat another offer.
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Is anyone else more disgusted than usual with the media regarding the Diggs trade? Virtually every Bills centric media member was dismissive about the possibility of him being traded beforehand. Some went so far as to be rude about it and acted like people making the suggestion were idiots for even thinking it was a possibility.
Fast forward to the aftermath and I’ve yet to hear one utter anything in the way of a mea culpa. I literally heard one of the more dismissive ones start off their podcast with “Well, it finally happened!” Like it was something he’d been expecting.
It’s a good reminder that so many media people are just playing a game. I shared here that an NFL reporter who’d been in Vegas for SB week had said that the big rumor among teams that week was that the Bills would be trying to trade Diggs this offseason. I don’t write that here to LAMP. But if it’s something that can make it to someone like me, how do they not hear it. They’re supposedly so well connected. Or is it that they collectively kept a lid on it? I dunno, either way it’s not a good look. I lost a lot of respect for many of them.
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4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
The only issue is his going to a new team, a new offense, a new QB, new guys to compete with for targets. Ideally he comes in and is the alpha dog he's been most of his career and has another top 5 season to allow him to find a bigger deal or sign wherever he wants next year. Yet what happens if the pasture isn't green on this side or he gets hurt? He's betting on himself which I'd say usually a good thing based on his history yet way his season ended last season and all new things coming up in 2024 he might end up making a mistake. As the saying goes, only time will tell.
It isn’t riskier for Diggs to have the one year deal versus the old one. His contract had no guarantees beyond 2024 so 2025 and after would’ve effectively been a team option. Roster bonuses eliminated any injury risk to the Texans of having to keep and pay him. Obviously a multi year contract with guaranteed money beyond 2024 would’ve been better for Diggs, but he got the next best thing.
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
It's very much not uncommon for a traded player to re-work his contract just after a trade, sure. Sometimes it's for the benefit of the trade partner, sometimes it's to reconcile the traded player to the trade, like the Bills did with McCoy.
Diggs re-work was 100% in Diggs' interest, of course. I'm just wondering exactly what leverage Diggs had, to accomplish that?
There's an enormous divide between some on-line pundits (Steven A Smith, McAfee, some of the Speak crew) who perceive Diggs as going to Denver to be a #1 WR
And tape gurus like Cosell who say "he's not a #1 WR at this point in his career".
The contract re-work says that Houston votes with the former.
So then we have tid-bits like Josh Norman saying "Diggs is taking himself out" - was it Diggs choice that he had lower snap counts towards the end of the season (of course pay no attention to stuff like "Sherfield had more", the only game that was true was vs. Dallas where the Bills only passed 15 times and the game plan was clearly to run over Dallas)
Or Devin McCourty saying "it looks like the Bills are trying to win without him" (meaning from his perception, the Bills game plan was 'taking Diggs out')
Is Cosell mis-perceiving a game plan that moved away from Diggs, for Diggs skills declining? That seems possible, but unlikely to me.
Diggs’ leverage was choosing the Texans. That’s particularly important with a player who has forced his way out of two teams when he had several seasons left on each of his contracts.
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This highlights the real problems with that kind of difficult situation. Allen was handcuffed. He wasn’t really in a position to be able to tell off Diggs and put him in line. You can only do that when you’re able to kick someone to the curb and that just barely became feasible this offseason. Florio was right that Diggs had the power in the relationship. Allen had to play peacemaker because burning down the relationship with Diggs would hurt the whole team. The real issue was the contract extension the Bills gave him. You can’t make a guy like Diggs happy for long. He’s only happy if he gets every last thing he wants and the minute he doesn’t he goes back to being a massive problem.
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Just now, Matt_In_NH said:
I think it is clear Diggs was orchestrating all of this behind the scenes.
Obviously. This isn’t something that just popped up either. The contract was part of the whole deal. This isn’t unusual in the NFL today. Look at the Jeudy trade from Denver to Cleveland. So many people asked why the Browns extended him so soon after trading for him. Isn’t it obvious that it was part of the package deal to acquire him? This is how it works now when the player has leverage.
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37 minutes ago, mrags said:
I really don’t believe they have as many holes as others want to point out. If there was a year to make your move for a playmaker and game changer at the position, this is the year.
If I agreed with you on the number of holes in the roster then it would be easy to say we should push in for a stud WR prospect or player. I don’t so it is not that simple. Our defense needs a pass rush and difference makers in the worst way.I think an argument can still be made to do it though. Get MHJ, Nabors or Odunze this year and then start finding those difference makers on defense in FA next offseason. That’s a reasonable strategy. I’d be happy to go this route if it’s for one of the top 3 WRs in the draft. I have no interest in a big move for any other WR prospect though.
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Just now, Coach Tuesday said:
Tipsters gonna tip.
apparently not
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9 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
Yes and no, it benefits Diggs not Houston from what I can tell by guaranteeing he can be a UFA. I guess they could tag him. Houston could have had the option to continue with Diggs or take a small dead cap, now its a one year deal. To trade a potential high second next year on a rental seems a bit odd even with the 5 and 6 going back.
Diggs gets more money this year and gets to choose where he plays next year. Seems like a good deal for him and pretty straightforward.
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4 hours ago, cbatl32 said:
i never said I wanted this. I’m speculating as to whether or not Beane might want to do this and possibly had it arranged before he traded Diggs.While I’m sure Beane is investigating all options and will do his best to fill the hole opened by Diggs’ departure. I don’t think it went down with a master plan though. Diggs had wanted out for some time and things were at a breaking point. It is what it is. Beane will manage the situation as best he can.
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50 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Diggs just straight up played himself off a contender. So I doubt that was a top item on his "where will they send me next" list...
You think he’d rather be on the Bills than the Texans? He knows he doesn’t have many good years left. He dipped on a team taking a step back so it can start another run for a hot team on the rise. Besides it’s not like he hasn’t been unhappy here in Buffalo and trying to get out for years.
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6 hours ago, Motorin' said:
His salary is 7m this year. They can make room for that. Then the next three seasons we get almost 90mil back from Diggs being off the book.
Aiyuk’s salary is $14.1M this year.
Would love to have him here and would support him getting paid, but it’s not feasible this year.
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5 hours ago, boater said:
You answered your own question.
Due to Diggs malcontent behavior, it was a market where the buyers had control. Maybe the Texans were the only takers.
This - and it’s likely where he wanted to go. More and more agents are making an effort to direct their players to preferred destinations. Everyone knows how Diggs would act if he had been traded to any team that wasn’t a contender so his trade value was nil to those teams. I’m sure he had a very short list of acceptable teams and the Texans were the one that got the deal done.
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10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
Bills vs Texans MNF Opener?
Dude. That would be nuts. And I can totally see it happening.
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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I honestly don't think that the Bills do this without Allen give it a thumbs up.
I think James Jones on one of those talk shows said the Bills figured out they can with without him.
Allen spreads the ball out well, maybe better than any QB in the league. With Diggs getting up there in age, slowing down and Allen not having to worry about getting Diggs his targets....Allen could actually be better. You can't force the balls to Diggs like it's 2020 or 2021 anymore. Diggs will want his targets regardless if he's slowing down.
Allen can now just walk up to the line and can just throw it where he thinks its the best place to go rather than satisfying Diggs ego. It has to be a relief IMO.
WR are diva's and probably will have to deal with something like this again but a more mature way. I appreciate what Diggs did for us for 4 seasons but these, what Tim Graham said "micro aggressions" do get annoying, especially for Allen.
I don't think it was a coincidence that Allen was unreachable when this went down. He was either on board or maybe even driving the bus on this one.
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6 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:
Because it’s so likely that the Bills stay healthy?
All we need is for the Bills to draft really well, everyone to stay healthy while meshing together seamlessly, and the other contenders to have crippling injuries. Then all we have to do is not choke away a playoff game en route to our first SB win. It’s that simple. Why can’t you negative Nancys see that?
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10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
My question after everything we've done this offseason and now in moving Diggs....
Why did we keep McDermott?
Let me preface it by saying I wasn't out for his blood after this season. If he stayed or went, I wasn't going to lose any sleep.
But many felt this was a make or break season for him. Then they did about as big of a soft rebuild of the team as you can do while still having a Franchise QB in place.
Even with a potentially better roster on paper, there's now *SO MANY* moving parts this season that it almost feels like a built in excuse or expected that we don't take the next step.
I feel like if we were going to do this much overhaul to the roster - this year would have been a good time to make the change at Head Coach too.
Fully agree that this would have been the logical time to make a change at HC. By not doing so they will move forward and rebuild the team the way McDermott wants. It is a terrible idea to get into a rebuild and then dump your HC halfway through. That can set a team back years when the new HC makes their changes. I don’t see that happening, so this tells me that the Pegulas expect McDermott to be here for that whole process. He’s signed through the 2027 season so there’s no real chance of a HC change until before the 2026 or 2027 season. Like it or not - and I don’t - that’s the realistic view of the situation.
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9 hours ago, boyst said:
Should they package a trade that would include this years first, next year's first and second to pick in the top 8 for a WR?
If that’s the cost then I’m in. I do not trade up if it’s more or if I can’t get one of the top three WRs.
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1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
For me I picked Kyle because he meant so much to this team for so long and retired right as the team was turning the corner. Wish he would have played a year or two longer to really enjoy some winning.
Excellent take. Tre edges out Kyle for me. Diggs sucks but not in the same way as them.
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1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Kyle Williams.
Kyle hurt, but Tre White getting cut this off-season was worse for me. Probably worse than Diggs.
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Why does Beane get a pass?
in The Stadium Wall
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That is brutal.