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6 hours ago, bills6969 said:
I have concerns on the defensive side of the ball. Specifically, with replacing Poyer/Hyde. Replacing their production/leadership will not be easy. Need some leaders to step up on D.
As long as we have JA17, a Super Bowl should always be the goal. There are alot of shoes to fill going into this season. I do like that we aren’t really coming up in conversation for Super Bowl contenders. I think we get a bit overlooked this year, which I think will be good for this team.
There are not many difference makers on defense and we have real questions at pass rusher and in the secondary. If Milano isn’t healthy or doesn’t come back right then we have a deficiency there too. I am sure the defense will be sound, but I don’t see the talent to play with the better offenses.
The offense will have to get us our Ws. We need production from a rookie WR and quality play from the shuffled interior OL, but that’s feasible. It’ll be a tough road, but I’d rather have to rely on our offense than our defense.
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1 hour ago, papazoid said:
pretty simple....he has a cash flow problem to pay for the new stadium cost overuns.
I doubt that this is the case. He could borrow the money if he didn’t want to liquidate other assets. The business model of buying a sports team, building a largely publicly funded stadium/arena/field/etc and then selling part or all of said team is well worn.
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1 hour ago, Aimee75 said:
Can someone break this down for an idiot like me and tell me what this means?
The new stadium raises the value of the team substantially. The Pegulas are cashing out on some of that.
Ultimately money talks, but the NFL prefers that prospective majority owners first buy a minority stake in a NFL team. The minority stake does not have to be in the team that they ultimately acquire a majority stake in.
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8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Option 3: Trade back with CAR or WSH. Come away with Two 2nds + 3rd or even Three 2nds.
(example: 28, 128, 160, 2025 2nd to CAR for 33, 39)
I just don't see other teams having a big appetite for a costly trade up to 28 for the same reasons we'd want to make a move back. Outside chance of a team doing it for a QB, but that's it. Your example is weighted heavily in favor of the Bills.
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He seemed to fall apart completely when pressured.
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1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:
Kiran Amegadjie OT Yale
Zak Zinter OG Michigan
JT Clark WR UTSA
Laiatu Latu DE UCLA
Is there something wrong with Amegadjie other than level of competition?
I think Latu’s medical concerns raise an interesting question. If it’s bad enough, then he’s off the board. If it’s of no concern, then he’s gone long before the Bills pick. But what if it’s something that is expected to shorten his career, making him a 4-5 year guy? I’d think the Bills might be very tempted to pull the trigger at 28 if that’s the case and he slips.
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9 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:
My grandma suffered from a life threatening allergic reaction to citrus fruit. She spent the 70s constantly crossing herself whenever someone said OJ
It can be deadly
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5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
And what if we draft someone else and they get dehydrated? Get a migraine? Sudden onset diarrhea? Stuff happens.
Wonder how nervous the Ravens are about that happening with Mark Andrews during a critical spot in a game. It's manageable. Yeah, there's extra steps but I would expect a professional medical staff would be out in front of it instead of being reactionary. If as a team you have to take a kid with this talent off your board or drop them way down then it's maybe time to reevaluate how good of a staff you employ.
Some trainer is going to have the job of making sure he eats a banana or orange after every quarter and drinks a smoothie at halftime. He may drop a bit, but not far.
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9 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:
Diggs is not the same guy he was and the drama coupled with his monster contract made him expendable. Sutton could be shoehorned into the cap with some Beane sleight of hand magic if they really wanted him, but you’re probably right with the idea of getting younger at the lead receiver position.
Same guy or not, they are different kinds of WRs. Curtis Samuel is much more like Diggs so a guy like Sutton would actually fit nicely in the Davis role.
As far as the financials, yes, there are some very aggressive things they could do to fit a player like Sutton, but they’ve obviously decided against that. They would have been more aggressive on the restructures they already did if they wanted to go that route.
23 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
I prefer to think of him as a “better Davis”…. I could see some upside in his game the next two years playing with JA …
edit…. I see you just said the same thing in the post before 😂👍Agreed. Sutton is a much better version of Davis and I’d also like to see him with a top QB. The best he’s had is Wilson throwing him yolo deep balls. He could be so much better here with Allen.
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27 minutes ago, boyst said:
There are just some things we shouldn't mention on here. Geno Smith. Daron Lee. 43 is the Mike. Nathan Peterman.
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And I can easily win this thread with two players
Eli Manning
Phillip Rivers
Both never even got to play a game for the team that drafted them and went on to HOF careers after being traded.
Then you can add John Elway. In that vein I would include Steve Young, Jim Kelly, Herschel Walker and every other player who found success in the NFL after a career in the USFL.
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27 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:
Diggs is a possession receiver now, that looked tentative in the playoffs and couldn’t make a tough catch in the biggest spot of our season. He’s a diva and malcontent and has 3 years of mileage more than Sutton. He lacked the fire in the 2nd half of the season that has defined his Bills career. At less than half of what Diggs cap hit is, he’d be a solid addition.
Sutton could help the Bills for sure. The Bills can’t fit him under the cap so that’s moot. He is a vertical player like Davis, not a guy who can uncover quickly like Diggs. They are totally different types of WRs so, no, Sutton isn’t a “younger Diggs”.
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4 hours ago, Eastport bills said:
Sutton is a younger Diggs at this point. He’s a solid # 2 and in our offense could be better with Josh. If Beane could pull him in for a 2nd next year it would be massive.
He’s not remotely the same kind of WR as Diggs. He’s a better Gabe Davis.
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1 hour ago, DJB said:
Worse in my opinion but it’s still early and at this time last year not many were talking about Daniel’s as a high end QB so things do change.
I also think if you are in the range to draft a possible franchise QB and you need one you need to take that chance . Next year is not always a guarantee
I think it depends on which prospects are within range this year. I wouldn’t force it if I were Daboll or Schoen, especially since I don’t think that their jobs are on the line.
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4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
Weird? No, this makes complete sense. Many of these kids come from poverty stricken homes. Now, some are racing around in Porsches with 100 grand in their pockets, and access to hot women, alcohol, and legalized weed (and God knows what else).
I'm not insulting these kids. I'm not at all sure that if I was young, in a college with thousands of hot girls, with a cool million dollars that my behavior would be all that reasoned and mature. In fact, I would bet against it.
My guess is that owners (if they are smart) will allocate more resources to investigate, and even spy on some of these kids.
Jmo.
It is interesting (to me at least) to think that kids getting real money in their pockets in college may help NFL teams by weeding out some of the knuckleheads.
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5 minutes ago, DJB said:
Problem is that the 2025 QB class is trashI haven't really looked at it, but how much worse is it than QB4 in this draft?
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Dolphins GM says he doesn’t have 21 1st round grades.
There are some QBs without first round grades that will be going before 21. I've heard multiple people say that they have (or have heard that there are) 20 players with 1st round grades.
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7 hours ago, JerseyBills said:
Schoen should do whatever it takes to get HIS QB.
Just like Buf did in a similar class with 4 -5 elite prospects
They didn't draft Jones and can get out that deal next year. Thank God they took Saquon in 17
First and foremost, Schoen should trust his evaluations of the QBs in this draft. One of the worst things a GM can do is to allow need to distort his evaluation of a player - especially a QB. Just because you have a need doesn't mean that there's a player who can fill it. It happens every year though. Honestly, their best option might be to tank this season after they acquire more draft capital in the 2025 draft so they can get their guy then.
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I feel like I just walked in on him and Brittany. And also that I now have a better understanding of why he married her.
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2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:
Great article from the Athletic. Basically says that teams routinely over-estimate their own ability to predict player performance and as a result overestimate the value of their own specific picks. Instead, they should maximize the number of lottery tickets they’re buying.
Thoughts?
I think that it amounts to this: Teams have maxed out their ability to predict the success of draft prospects. The unnecessary extra work done on prospects doesn’t improve their hit rate, but only increases the confidence level and makes them overly confident in their decisions. So the first mistake teams make is overvaluing players they spend too much time on. Those are almost always the players that fit their needs.
The second place teams make mistakes is when uninformed coaches or owners meddle. The Browns under Haslam were a huge offender of this until recently. The Justin Gilbert pick was to appease a DC who, at the last minute, demanded he be the draft pick because he needed a player like that to run his defense. No real work had been done on him since he hadn’t been a prospect the team was considering. So the Browns drafted a player who really didn’t like football in the top 10. Then later that night they traded back into the first round because the owner wanted Johnny Manziel.
Analytics driven FOs know that there is a baseline level of uncertainty that is inherent in the NFL draft and they act accordingly. Quality teams are run with that in mind and without interference.
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27 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
With all due respect, that doesn't entirely make sense to me. By "cash spend" are you talking about "new cash"?
Because all cap dollars were cash spend at some point - whether new cash, or a large cash payment up front that was amortized over all contract years.
With regard to the Hurts deal, the cash spend this season is meagre, with a mere $13.5M dead cap hit but Hurts currently carries $120M dead cap hit.
Yes. Actual cash out the door. By aggressively structuring (and re-structuring) contracts teams like Philadelphia are able to outspend the majority of teams. It is sustainable as long as there is not another Covid style event that causes a cap decrease.
Teams still have to sign the correct players to the large deals. Hurts has a huge dead cap and is uncuttable, but Allen is as well. It’s the same for any highly paid player on a long term deal.
Many teams will want to be more conservative due to a variety of reasons. A big one is that most owners don’t want to spend that much. Another is the inherent risks involved. Teams still have to draft and coach well - and make good decisions overall - but for some teams this is a big advantage. It’s how a team like Cleveland can still make the playoffs on their 4th string QB and how Philly is staying near the top of the league.
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7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Hmmm, well, maybe? We do know that Hurts signed a 5 year, $255M contract with $179M guaranteed last spring, right?
I mean, you're not wrong, but a look at Hurts actual cap impacts....makes my head hurt
The Hurts deal shows how a team with an owner willing to consistently spend cash can gain a competitive advantage. The Browns are doing the same thing. Those teams rank 3rd and 1st in cash spend this season at $282.2M and $337.3M. The Eagles figure does not include the Smith deal so it’ll go higher. The Bills are 23rd at $214.0M. Link
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28 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
And Hurt's cap hit the next 2 seasons:
2024- $13,558,800
2025- $21,769,800
Even in 2026 it's a low hit for a QB:
2026- $31,771,800
Cap hits can be lowered like this if an owner is willing to spend.
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9 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
It's also something you can do when your QB isn't costing you $30-40M on the cap.
The Iggles just signed Smith to this extension and also have Hurts signed to a 5 year, $255M contract.
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Diggs wanted out. He did the same stuff here as he did in Minnesota to get himself traded. All the cryptic social media stuff, the bailing out of locker rooms without speaking to the media after losses and a litany of emotional outbursts were just him trying to get what he wanted.
Diggs’ opinion was that it was other people’s fault that we haven’t won a championship and that we weren’t going to do so in the near future. He blamed McDermott, Allen and (I’d guess) others. Any defense of him is often taken as support for his rationale. Likewise Bills fans often rip him because they’re fighting that line of thought as well as because he forced his way out of Buffalo.
I will stress that - right or wrong - Diggs is entitled to make his own judgements and form his own opinions. If someone thinks he was correct in his assessment, then they probably think he was smart to get out when he did. If someone thinks he was wrong, then they probably think his faulty judgement led to a mistake. Either way this is where we are now and it’s time for people to move on.
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NFL draft rumors 2024
in The Stadium Wall
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No, it is not allowed. Post 6/1 designation is for cut players only.