BarleyNY
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The writer just accidentally omitted him. Not much proofreading happens anymore.
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2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Sure we could. $10 mil is freed up on the cap post June 1st due to the Tre White cut and if they are making that trade they would already likely have an extension in place and the first year of that could EASILY be made to fit within the cap and then take up what Diggs would have the following years with a little extra most likely in there.
Won’t work. Aiyuk’s current contract is over $14M. If you trade this year’s picks, then you can’t wait until after 6/1 to trade for him since that’s after the draft. Even if we did, we still don’t have the room since we need that $10M for the season. Also his next contract will still have a larger cap hit than we could absorb this season. He’s going to be a $25M a year player.
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32 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
In the wake of the Diggs trade, a friend had this reaction and came up with the scenario below. Curious to know what people think because it actually seems genuinely plausible to me, and I'd love it:
"A bunch of you know, I've been hoping since February that Beane would trade Diggs for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. The fact that he was able to get what should be a high end #2 in 2025 is great.
What Beane did was jettison the 4 receivers that caught the ball at a 63% clip & kept the 3 guys that collectively caught it at an 82% catch rate. Shakir, Cook & Kincaid we're all top 30 in the league in that category [incidentally, Cook was 81.5 percent for 8.2 yards/target]. Even after these 3 guys sign their 2nd contracts, they should all remain good values for most of the remainder of Allen's career.
Here's 4 relatively conservative projections for 2024
Targets Yards Yards/Target
Kincaid 110 800 7.3
Shakir 80 800 10
Samuel 90 750 8.3
All RBs 80 650 8.1
That equates to 3,000 yards on 360 targets. Allen has averaged 36 attempts per game over the past 4 years. 36x17=612 which leaves 252 targets for Wr1, Wr2, Wr5 & Knox. Allen has never thrown over 4,600 yards in his career. If he were to average 7.9 yards per attempt on the remaining 252 attempts, then he would have thrown for 5,000. Just for perspective, Shakir led the league in yards/target last year at 13.6. Aiyuk was 2nd at 12.8 & Diggs was a pedestrian 7.4, unlike 2020 when he was 9.2
For me, ideally Beane couples pick #28 & our 2025 2nd round pick to either trade for Aiyuk, or move up to get Brian Thomas Jr. Then, if he took our 2025 first round pick to trade back into the 2nd round to grab either Legette or McConkey, that would be nice. We'd have the fastest & most dynamic set of skill players in team history.
It sounds like we can easily create North of 60 million in cap space for 2025 & free up a bunch more room in 2026. That's a fantastic kicker to this Diggs trade, because it'll allow us to target multiple pro bowl free agents in the next couple of years.All of these factors combined, will allow us to compete with KC for the next 8 years & we'll be able to view this trade for what it is ... a prelude to a parade!"
Aiyuk would be a tremendous addition to the Bills, but we can’t fit his contract under the cap so that won’t work. I have zero interest in a big trade up for any WR outside the top 3. Too much capital for not much difference than can be had near 28.
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With the 85th pick in the draft the Cleveland Browns select Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame.
@stinky finger and Houstong are now on the clock
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9 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
Yesterday the Boston Globe said the Bills werent active in free agency because the Pegulas are unhappy with the results they're getting and tightened the purse strings. Huh?
The Bills are taking their medicine this year. Their cash spend last season was 5th in the NFL in 2023. As it stands today it is 22nd. I haven’t read the Globe article as it’s paywalled, but I think he’s drawing an unfair conclusion about the tightening of the purse strings. While it is true that the Bills are spending a lot less cash this season than last, they obviously decided to take a lot of dead cap hits now. It’s a massive $55M in total dead cap hits in fact. It’s a reset and it’ll be a bit of down season. But that’s not the same as a permanent cinching of the purse strings. If the spending doesn’t increase next offseason then that’s a different story. But it’s definitely jumping the gun to think it’s more than a reset.
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22 hours ago, Toyo321 said:
I see Dawson as potential trade bait to get our #1 WR in this years draft.
Knox can’t be traded at this time due to the cap hit. His cap hit would INCREASE by $9.8M if traded by 6/1. Plus the contract of the player replacing him would have to be added.
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11 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:
I've always followed the Steelers for quite some time and consider them my 2nd team when the Bills were always out of it half way through the season and I root for them when we don't play together. Diontae Johnson had the luxury of playing with Big Ben for his first 3 seasons and by year 3 was Ben's go to WR after the AB situation. I think he would have been a big upgrade to Samuel and would have at the very least lessened the blow of losing Diggs imo. He was a model citizen with ben at QB but started getting Diggs-esque when Pickett/Trubisky/Rudolph took over as QB which is kind of understandable. Most WR's I feel have a bit of diva in them so I don't see it as a terrible thing when they blow up every now and again just not an AB type of blow up.
I can’t believe that Roethlisberger has only been out of the league for two seasons so far. I would’ve sworn that it’s been 4 or 5.
As for Johnson, not for the $10M the Panthers are paying him. No freaking way.
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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:
Attempted murder of an opposing fan. He should be fine.
Didn’t he push a woman who ran on the field as part of a crowd after a game ended? I’m curious if there’s more tho. Seems like there has to be, but if that’s it……
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24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
They have said Beane has authority over personnel and both he and McDermott report to Pegula. That is public and on the record. No mystery about it. Fans speculate about who has more power in the relationship and I agree it is McDermott but also when you speak to people who have been in that building including one at a high level what they say is the same as the public line - Beane runs personnel and he makes those decisions.
I appreciate that information. I’ve looked for it, but have never found anything definitive that states which of them has final roster authority.
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29 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
Why should they have to tell the public that. They run it the way they run it. Beane should get credit for the good things he does and criticism for the bad things like anyone else. Given they are a perennial playoff team there have been more good moves than bad.
I didn’t say they had to tell anyone, just that it is very out of the ordinary and odd. Why wouldn’t a team be transparent about it? I guess it rubs me wrong for this reason: Beane is the GM. If he has final say then I see no reason at all to not tell the public. But if it’s McDermott, then it’s a problem because Beane winds up taking the heat for decisions he’s getting stuck with. That would be dysfunctional.
Edited to add: Gunner just posted that he has seen it states that Beane has final roster authority. If that’s the case, then I’m good with laying the blame and kudos for roster decisions at Beane’s feet. I just haven’t seen anything definitive on the matter myself.
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33 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:
Von miller contract
Dawson Knox contract
Stephen diggs contract
Defense line draft picks that never pan out
Defense tackle signings that are not good enough
No reliable pass rusher
Wyatt Teller give away
Edmunds
Just curious why he is so highly regarded when these issues have come to roost fully
I have levied criticism of McDermott and Beane. On thing I always note when doing so is that it’s unclear who is ultimately making the final decisions. I think that Beane reports to McDermott, but I’m not sure. The Bills invite this kind of speculation because they will not tell the public who has the final roster authority or what the reporting structure. I’ve always found this unnecessary and odd. I can’t say I’ve seen that level of secrecy over that information before.
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15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Some of us did not like the 2022 offseason at the time and it has proven to be pretty much an unmitigated disaster:
Free Agent signings:
Jordan Phillips - $5m
Tim Settle - $9m
Daquan Jones - $14m
Von Miller - $120m
Roger Saffold - $6.25m
Ryan Bates - $17m
OJ Howard - $3.5m
Jameson Crowder - $2m
Extension:
Stefon Diggs - $96m
First round pick:
Kaiir Elam
I know he had some decent success with some of his later picks - Cook, Bernard, Benford - but it is by any standards a bit of a disaster of an offseason.
That is brutal.
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With the 54th pick in the draft the Cleveland Browns select Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama.
@Doc Brown is in the clock for Miami
Burton has first round talent. I have him as my WR4 from that perspective, but I keep hearing about “off the field issues”. The problem is they no one is talking about what those are. In any event the talent is too great to pass up here.
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Pick will be in shortly
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2 hours ago, Logic said:
The thing that bothers ME, if anything, is this:
When Diggs was a Bill, all we heard about was how he was a diva, a malcontent, a headache, and was maybe showing his age last year and no longer a number one receiver.
Now that he's a Texan, he's the weapon that's gonna put them over the top, they're favorites in the AFC, he's still a #1 WR, and the Bills got fleeced.
Like...which is it? Pick a lane.It all does seem disingenuous.
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34 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
I don't bother to listen to any of the talking bobbleheads. It helps.
I stay away from the “shouty shows” but sports radio is good white noise for me. I don’t really have to pay attention and it is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things so it doesn’t have the same strain as the important stuff.
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24 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Let me re-frame this:
Why do you think it was Diggs who chose the Texans? Do you believe another team offered more and was rejected?
Which brings up the follow-on question: If that's true, what was the leverage Diggs possessed that allowed him to choose? Did Diggs have a trade approval clause in his contract?
Firstly, we all have seen how an unhappy Diggs acts toward his team. We saw it in Minnesota and we saw it here. Same guy. Same playbook. So no team was going to trade for him unless their expectation was that he wanted to be there and would be happy there. So Diggs had to sign off on his acceptable teams. The Texans were either that singular team or one on a short list of teams. So he chose the Texans, potentially along with others.
At that point it would’ve been up to the team(s) to negotiate with Beane. I highly doubt that it was a coincidence that the Texans traded with Minnesota and acquired the pick they traded for Diggs just prior. That was the compensation that got the deal done. It’s probable that it’s what the Texans had to do to match or beat another offer.
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Is anyone else more disgusted than usual with the media regarding the Diggs trade? Virtually every Bills centric media member was dismissive about the possibility of him being traded beforehand. Some went so far as to be rude about it and acted like people making the suggestion were idiots for even thinking it was a possibility.
Fast forward to the aftermath and I’ve yet to hear one utter anything in the way of a mea culpa. I literally heard one of the more dismissive ones start off their podcast with “Well, it finally happened!” Like it was something he’d been expecting.
It’s a good reminder that so many media people are just playing a game. I shared here that an NFL reporter who’d been in Vegas for SB week had said that the big rumor among teams that week was that the Bills would be trying to trade Diggs this offseason. I don’t write that here to LAMP. But if it’s something that can make it to someone like me, how do they not hear it. They’re supposedly so well connected. Or is it that they collectively kept a lid on it? I dunno, either way it’s not a good look. I lost a lot of respect for many of them.
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4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
The only issue is his going to a new team, a new offense, a new QB, new guys to compete with for targets. Ideally he comes in and is the alpha dog he's been most of his career and has another top 5 season to allow him to find a bigger deal or sign wherever he wants next year. Yet what happens if the pasture isn't green on this side or he gets hurt? He's betting on himself which I'd say usually a good thing based on his history yet way his season ended last season and all new things coming up in 2024 he might end up making a mistake. As the saying goes, only time will tell.
It isn’t riskier for Diggs to have the one year deal versus the old one. His contract had no guarantees beyond 2024 so 2025 and after would’ve effectively been a team option. Roster bonuses eliminated any injury risk to the Texans of having to keep and pay him. Obviously a multi year contract with guaranteed money beyond 2024 would’ve been better for Diggs, but he got the next best thing.
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
It's very much not uncommon for a traded player to re-work his contract just after a trade, sure. Sometimes it's for the benefit of the trade partner, sometimes it's to reconcile the traded player to the trade, like the Bills did with McCoy.
Diggs re-work was 100% in Diggs' interest, of course. I'm just wondering exactly what leverage Diggs had, to accomplish that?
There's an enormous divide between some on-line pundits (Steven A Smith, McAfee, some of the Speak crew) who perceive Diggs as going to Denver to be a #1 WR
And tape gurus like Cosell who say "he's not a #1 WR at this point in his career".
The contract re-work says that Houston votes with the former.
So then we have tid-bits like Josh Norman saying "Diggs is taking himself out" - was it Diggs choice that he had lower snap counts towards the end of the season (of course pay no attention to stuff like "Sherfield had more", the only game that was true was vs. Dallas where the Bills only passed 15 times and the game plan was clearly to run over Dallas)
Or Devin McCourty saying "it looks like the Bills are trying to win without him" (meaning from his perception, the Bills game plan was 'taking Diggs out')
Is Cosell mis-perceiving a game plan that moved away from Diggs, for Diggs skills declining? That seems possible, but unlikely to me.
Diggs’ leverage was choosing the Texans. That’s particularly important with a player who has forced his way out of two teams when he had several seasons left on each of his contracts.
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This highlights the real problems with that kind of difficult situation. Allen was handcuffed. He wasn’t really in a position to be able to tell off Diggs and put him in line. You can only do that when you’re able to kick someone to the curb and that just barely became feasible this offseason. Florio was right that Diggs had the power in the relationship. Allen had to play peacemaker because burning down the relationship with Diggs would hurt the whole team. The real issue was the contract extension the Bills gave him. You can’t make a guy like Diggs happy for long. He’s only happy if he gets every last thing he wants and the minute he doesn’t he goes back to being a massive problem.
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Just now, Matt_In_NH said:
I think it is clear Diggs was orchestrating all of this behind the scenes.
Obviously. This isn’t something that just popped up either. The contract was part of the whole deal. This isn’t unusual in the NFL today. Look at the Jeudy trade from Denver to Cleveland. So many people asked why the Browns extended him so soon after trading for him. Isn’t it obvious that it was part of the package deal to acquire him? This is how it works now when the player has leverage.
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37 minutes ago, mrags said:
I really don’t believe they have as many holes as others want to point out. If there was a year to make your move for a playmaker and game changer at the position, this is the year.
If I agreed with you on the number of holes in the roster then it would be easy to say we should push in for a stud WR prospect or player. I don’t so it is not that simple. Our defense needs a pass rush and difference makers in the worst way.I think an argument can still be made to do it though. Get MHJ, Nabors or Odunze this year and then start finding those difference makers on defense in FA next offseason. That’s a reasonable strategy. I’d be happy to go this route if it’s for one of the top 3 WRs in the draft. I have no interest in a big move for any other WR prospect though.
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Just now, Coach Tuesday said:
Tipsters gonna tip.
apparently not
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interesting WR scenario posed by a friend
in The Stadium Wall
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I know enough about the cap to understand why the Bills can’t afford Aiyuk this season, which definitely puts me ahead of you on that subject.
Also I understand that the trade and Aiyuk acquisitions are separate scenarios. Reread what I wrote. I’m not interested in trading up for any WR other than the top 3. Aiyuk is not feasible for cap reasons.