klos63

It shouldn't matter about anyone else right now. This is about Gruden.

He's more slimy than Gruden. Gruden is stupid, a product of the idiotic, macho, NFL mentality, but likely harmless, Snyder is a horrible person and his organization has likely caused some serious problems for a lot of people, mainly women.

For some reason, Snyder seems to stay clean. I don't know how, but seems like he should be next to go.

Don't worry too much, I'm sure there are many known racists, anti gay, misogynistic people still gainfully employed. Hope that makes you feel better. Actions/words have consequences, you should fear losing your job(not your life) if you potentially create a hostile environment in your job. If I called our CEO a gay slur, racial slur... attacked the idea of women advancing in our company, I should expect to lose my job.

Which other NFL owners were involved in Gruden losing his job?

That's stupid.

I wouldn't be to sure of that. He will still have a lot of defenders.

unemployment would skyrocket.

I don't like people losing their jobs over being an idiot, although in this situation he probably had to, but people shouldn't defend him. That's just crazy.

It happened over the course of 7 years, ending, i believe when the Raiders hired him.

Should the Raiders/League ignore this and do nothing?

my meaning is that he brought this on himself. Nobody else to blame, no 'canceling'.

People that talk like that really aren't worth listening to. They scream cancel culture, but ignore Gruden wanting to 'cancel' female officials, gays in football, protesters... he canceled himself.

Interesting to see how people defend this.

I don't think 'bend but don't break' defenses lead the league in turnovers and fewest points allowed or are top 3 in rush and passing yards allowed. That's not much bending there.

If we end up giving up 12 ppg , he's probably gone.

I saw that smile. I don't recall ever seeing him like that before. He's a tremendous coach. I'm sure Houston would like a do over in last years coaching search.

Honor and respect isn't something very common in this country lately. Look at school board meetings for example.

I did, nothing else to do at 630

Started at 630 today with the London game, but yeah, 10am starts are great.

It doesn't rain much in KC?

well, compared to you, Yeah, I am trying hard. You're just regurgitating the same old 'conspiracy theorists' BS which takes no amount of effort or brainpower.

Let's not be blind here, would he make that comment about a white guy? Doubtful. I don't think Gruden will lose his job, I don't think he should. But 2011 isn't that long ago and it was a stupid thing to say and quite offensive. It seems that for some people, those getting offended by a terrible statement are the problem, not the person saying it. It seems like the league and the Raiders are dealing with it quietly, internally, which is appropriate. People like you are the ones overreacting. This will play out and we'll get a resolution, then it's fair to debate. But to get upset because people don't react the way you want them to is pretty silly.

Well, the last couple seasons probably played into it as well.

I'm just reading some comments here, is there really a outrage mob out there? Most comments here seem pretty measured. You're the one with the outrage. OJ says hi!