Kirby Jackson

Not sure what this means... Does anyone use school for anything other than to make as much money as they can?

Brees is trying to fight out of it like Rocky in the last round in Russia, lol

From one politician to another:

I didn’t give a crap about working in insurance until I saw what the senior guys were making. I’m sure most lawyers don’t give a crap about law school. They care about the payout at the end. What’s the difference?

The only former NFL player in my office has an MBA and makes about $300K a year. We have another former player out of our Austin office though. He makes about $500K. I guess those must be the exceptions. Believe it or not they’re both black too ?? Retired NFL players have a college graduation rate of about 80%. The general population is about 30%. Carry on though, hope you learned something today. https://operations.nfl.com/the-players/development-pipeline/college-advisory-committee/nfl-player-fact-vs-fiction/

I think that’s definitely true. That’s why I intentionally left off Bills players. We would recognize a lot of them. That message would be very strong on a local level. If Tre White spoke out in Buffalo we’d know EXACTLY who that is. The difference is that someone in Kansas City would be like “who is that guy?” They don’t have the same reach for that reason. QBs are the only recognizable people across the country. I purposely used NFL stars compared to NBA role players to enhance the point. Aaron Donald is less recognizable than Steph Curry. James Harden is more recognizable than Bobby Wagner. It isn’t just “the game being global” either. It’s that we see their faces. It’s the same reason that we can recognize Serena or Nadal. We can spot Tiger 5 miles away. We wouldn’t know John Carlson if he was sitting at our dinner table. Just my 2 cents but I strongly believe that is a big reason that NBA players are so vocal. We “know” them.

Candidly, I’m not sure. It’s an assumption on my part. PSE definitely is profitable which is why I think it rubs people the wrong way. It’s the old, “why does McDonald’s pay minimum wage?” The answer is because they can. Personally, I’m a lot more sensitive to the small boutique having to lay people off or paying minimum wage than I am Wal-Mart. This situation seems to fall somewhere in between those 2 with PSE being closer to Wal-Mart and The Athletic being the small boutique. Obviously it isn’t that extreme but hopefully that example illustrates the point I’m trying (not so successfully) to make.

It’s not though. That video featured stars in the league. Jamal Adams is a 1st team all-pro and the best safety in football. Do you know what he looks like? I don’t. The same with Marlon Humphrey, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Aaron Donald, Julio Jones, etc... I would recognize Patty Mills though. That’s kind of the point. There’s nothing that can be done but it is absolutely a part of it. NFL players are anonymous (the same for hockey players and to a lesser extent baseball players). There are certainly other parts. NBA ownership is infinitely more progressive than NFL ownership. The player leadership and league leadership are in lockstep. There’s trust.

It’s apples and oranges though. PSE is extremely profitable. The Athletic didn’t have the same finances to do that.

Some of it’s the nature of the league too. The NBA players don’t wear helmets. They are the most recognizable athletes in the country. I could pick out a role player on the Sacramento Kings but didn’t know who a few of those guys in that video were by face. There’s nothing that the NFL can do about that but it is absolutely a factor.

I really don’t view it as a ton of mediocrity. There are some young guys ascending and some older guys descending. We really have no idea if Darnold/Allen/Mayfield/Wentz/Goff are going to be great, terrible or mediocre. The middle class of the league are the guys in the bottom that have proven that they can start and be okay. Mediocrity to me is Keenum, Dalton, Taylor, Mariota, Jameis, Fitz, Brissett, Foles, Carr and Bridgewater. A few of those are debatable and there are probably more that could be added. That’s just off the top of my head.

Oh he is

Peyton as a person...could be talked into either as the player

There are varying degrees of phonies. Brees is, and has been for over a decade, a fraud. His image has been carefully crafted and manufactured to protect his future political aspirations. The reality is he isn’t a great dude. He’s no different than anyone else despite the moral high ground that he pretends to stand on. He was just exposed on a much larger scale for the phony that he has always been.

This has nothing to do with mind-reading and everything to do with stories from those who know Brees well. I’ve had this opinion of him for years and it’s documented on here. Brees the player and Brees the person are not the same. And LOL at “Brees’ principles“ if you only knew...The dude is a total hypocrite. In my personal opinion the reason that he tried so hard on his apology tour yesterday was so that people wouldn’t start telling those stories of his principles.

Brees has done a lot of good. He’s incredibly charitable. He has donated a lot to a lot of different causes. He’s one of the most important people in the history of New Orleans. He’s also manufactured. Brees is a politician; his actions are always self-serving. There are certain things that I’m not going to get into that would change people’s perception of him. He plays the role of the good, Christian leader well. Brees’ image is (or has been to this point) pretty immaculate. Brees the person, is not that.

Same guy

I used to hang out with a bunch of them.

Drew Brees has done a lot of good things. I don’t believe Drew Brees is a good person. Those things aren’t the same. He’s charitable. He’s a phony. Those are both true. He just had a rare misstep in the public eye. He accidentally showed everyone who he is. He’s done that a few times (suing his mom, Focus on Family, anthem protest). This isn’t “out of character” for Brees; this is who he is. He usually just is better at protecting his image.

Who would have thought this thread included a marriage proposal?

I was going to post that story with a gif of someone pouring gas on a fire, lol. I decided to not be “that guy.”

That’s the outrage though. 4 years later you just indicated that you don’t understand the issue any better than you did at the time. We certainly can’t move forward if in 4 years you don’t take one step or ask one question. This has been a time where he could talk and listen. No one is asking him to take a knee. They are asking him to understand their outrage. In order to do that you have to talk and listen.