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well to be specific, ebron comes with the caveat that we would trade back a bit and get him mid first round along with a bonus second or third. But gronk davis graham and earlier gates were the top target of their teams. why does the combine matter more than gameday production? Ebron isn't close to Davis? if Davis is a 10 what grade do you give ebron and why? id have a boner for him and a free second pick in a deep draft that could end up being Benjamin or a RT.

what I don't get is why chandler signing makes much difference, chandler is a cast off and a stop gap, hes OK but Ebron is a threat like Pitta, graham,gronk Vernon davis etc. why not have chandler be the second TE and the depth. What if chandler gets hurt? if a WR gets hurt there is already depth there.

thanks that clears things up johnwalters

I guess the reason would be, some of those 6-10 plays might go for touchdowns, its the "impact" or "gamebreaker" argumengt. will an olineman break a game open? this post is more about where we would get more value from a tall WR or talented TE

jboyst - yes I like it a lot...just something about it. what the hell was new demark anyway

thanks for your input jboyst....but mostly for changing your avatar, god that thing bugged me. I wouldn't give a first and SJ for ben, I would a second though.

why couldn't ebron get a jump ball? and block? and offer a true TE which is a bigger need than WR, though WR is a need our TE corp is mostly rejects.

Rags wow ! its a new dawn I guess lol interesting, Ive read in other post how people despise the idea of going OL at 9, how Evans would be great at 9, now it may be Cinton Dix? That some are now convinced it will be Ebron. Im more confused than ever at how so many people are so "sure"of what the Bills will or wont do!

Update-no saying youd take OL or anyone else, its assuming the brass is between these two guys realistically both will be there for us. Both are big imposing talents who help in the red zone. I say Ebron since we just drafted 3 WRs with speed so drafting Evans has to take someone off the field be it SJ Woods TJ or Goodwin and replaces speed with size (like a TE could also do.) Also w Ebron we could trade back 3-5 spots and still realistically get him and gain another pick.(maybe even a second) Finally I see Ebron with less bust potential than Evans and a guy who finally gives us a true threat at TE which has been missing since the K-gun (honorable mention to reimersma) what do you think? vote is with the stipulation that all other BPAs are gone, I.e. Watkins Mack etc.

yes and no

so you find one highlight and pretend you are right?? how bout the 50 runs last year for 1 yard by CJ??? anyone with two eyes knows CJ cant take a tackler with him past half a yard...and which other things did I say aren't true?? he sucks at pass protection, has several fumbles etc...he doesn't get injured easily? he doesn't run out of bounds when we need to kill clock??? maybe look at stats rather than a highlight film...or do you like to play make believe? CJ is just plain dumb...sorry but its true.

Id take a second oro CJ all day, he cant "learn" to read blocks after 4 years, no game awareness, hes a fumbler, he gets hurt easily, oh did I mention he cant break a tackle if his life depended on it. (runs too upright). oh did I mention poor pass protection... all this for the occasional long run.

cool because I loved going 1-5 all those years he schooled him, that and his 2 tds in 6 games.

nice space and smile dorko +1

he will probably do a few tricks to earn those beads. we all know Byrd like a good D.

don't answer morons

thanks for your intelligent contribution

why? his post Is right on, what are you on genius?

fixed...but I dont see the relevance of this

wait, is it chas fitzreingold? ir is it chas reinsgibbons?

sj has more drops/fumbles than tj in any year by far so taking him off the field might be a positive, and Goodwin who you praised as all positive, started his career here by having a fumble on his first play. tj get very few opportunities and is supposed to be used as a deep threat which he almost never gets a chance at.

wow this list made me realize how many "stars" on this team I dont like....like overpaid lazy Williams who never gets his jersey dirty, crappy SJ who just plain sucks. Spiller whos about the dumbest guy on the team save mckelvin (who I actually like now) Dareus EJ and Tj are up and coming but far from my favorites...and who would ever pick a center as their favorite guy, ever? It leaves me with the obvious 1 fred 2 kyle 3 kiko and 4 woods...sad that 2 are only 1st year players...so no love fro kyle? hes easily out played dareus the last two years...how does he have more votes?

check your facts...most pundits said no WR were worthy of a first round pick that year.

did he make the super bowl...or his team...also when did he go to a pro bowl? not as a bill right?

what don't you get??? 2-3 ints from a safety in 4 years...??? oh wait that's really good I guess....still backing byrd too and his fake plantar-I don't want to play itis??