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hacket had no go to plays for the red zone... something designed to get a guy wide open, or a good chance of it. That said if Mcdummy doesnt fumble again we probably still win....Mcgoodwin tried hard to fumble on the next punt and brown was unlucky. Thing is Mcdummy almost always carries the ball like that..surprised it hasnt happened before...oh wait.

wow that bugs me people say this about a qb throwing it away... those were sniffed out screens or covered players so he threw it at their feet on purpose to avoid a sack strip fumble...its smart football and why he didnt take sacks like he had been doing...Im sure he can throw farther than 6 feet. if he throws it high and away its intentional groundng ...or a pick! he did suck in the red zone though.

maybe because so far im right. i dont want to be, i wish sammy was a total stud. hes good on the run but he goes down too quick and cant come up with the deep ball in traffic. Sorry i guess the new homer war begins. maybe in two years you all can agree w me like you did regarding SJ. finally whats my crusade? that i dont think hes perfect and totally awesome? So now preventing INTs is your excuse for him not catching it? did Moss make his name preventing ints? How about AJ green? laughable. why not admit now Watkins came up empty today in jump balls and the deep balls thrown his way?

i am referring to his pro games obviously....not to say i told you so but i saw another 3-4 1v1 big time catches that he didnt make again....I dont want him to have a hole in his game but itd be nice for him to catch something with a guy in his face. Guess we can just watch the clemson clip and not worry how we lost to the cheifs today.

wow how you guys change what was said to suit your argument never ceases to amaze. I said moss went up better than anyone for a 50/50 type ball. I also said maybe sammy took it easy in those situations due to his ribs...then you say it was his ribs and he should have taken it easy. Maybe you never really read the posts of others properly? anywho my point again if you could actually concentrate and read this is....he hasnt shown any ability to jump up while being bodied by a defender and come down with something...he also goes down very easy after a catch (minus the jets td) i want to see him outfight people on jump balls and do more rac. I challenge anyone here to find a clip this year where he goes up high and out fightss a guy for a catch. i can find at least 5 where he barely saves a pick and doesnt make the catch on potential big play passes. Dont argue...FIND THE CLIP.... ill admit I was wrong.....find one please talkers.

rewatch the lack of effort in san diego and also a few non-catches in the houston game and get back to me....im not saying he doesnt get open or catch well, stop being blind homers and watch the plays again....Im not making them up. If you dont want to admit/accept they happened than go on thinking hes the next randy moss/jerry rice and can do no wrong....like the showboating in new jersey.

oh you "completely "disagree...isee...evidenced by one catch. Notice that isnt the kind you "go up" for, also, no ones on him grappling for the ball with him here....also I said he has good hands, like in this catch....he also goes down while hardly being touched on this play btw. you ignore many plays i guess that watkins doesnt try like the whole san diego game, try rewatching that and using the word "completely" better or rereading my point. I obviously thought you were open to discussion and other points of viewes but your already infatuated with watkins beyond convincing.

no, i just saw highlight catches and his stats....do you agree watkins doesnt go up hard though?

not trolling here but i called out SJ earlier than anyone here on tsw for being non clutch and not being on the team by 2014....that said Ive noticed watkins doesnt "go up and get it" He will knock it out of the air alot or just feint at the ball but not really try...maybe its his ribs? Either way he has speed to get open and great hands but he hasnt broken a tackle except for the slant against the jets....He goes down awful quick like tim brown used to....I hope its his ribs beacuse i watched Kelvin benjamins catches and they are all circus type, out of frame leaping style grabs. I would have liked to trade back in the draft and get him and another late 1st rather than give up 2 first for 1 guy... we could have had cj mosley and benjamin maybe. Not saying benjamins better but so far they are about equal and neck and neck on the stat sheet. Just that benjamin cost less than half of what sammy cost us.

yes he has, in spades, his playcalling vs the situation is stupid, he runs from the shotgun too much, he wont run on third and 2 or 3 ever. He cant seem to call plays where a guy can get 5 yards when its 3rd n 4, instead we throw deep and incomplete....or take sacks. He does nothing imaginative. And worse he has routes set up where guys all run streaks or all hook instead of clear outs and short middle deep options. How well has goodwin been used btw? guy runs a 4.2 and has what, 2 passes thrown deep to him all year? How well was spiller being used in the passing game? the guy is a joke and the worst oc weve had since kevin Killdrive. I love the excuse making...its always the oline, thats why trent sucked, thats why cj sucks etc. how about ej sucks and cj sucks and Hacketts sucks? How about that?

so you want everyone gone? whaley, jackson, watkins, mario, kiko? Shwarts....WHy would want to go back to being 3-13? we are about to break out and you want a full house cleaning? youre super smart.

scarier than cyril richardson pass blocking! but not as scary as pears run blocking.

its hard to love being criticized in the NFL

oh did they win? i didnt know thats what that meant when we had more points. But how does Hackett make their qb throw it to our defense? Also how does he know how to make all our running backs llook stupid and worthless? Also I should be happy we had 3 ints in 5 minutes and zero points from our offense so when were actually losing a game it will be ok that we cant get a first down. Yes I should ignore what happens everygame just because our defense beat a 1-6 team.

so i just had these new man boobs done, what do you think?"

wow nice take.

nice, calling it w money on the line....hope we all win and you get paid.

you are wrong...i didnt read your post because you didnt write what it was about...but seeing your topic headline ill say this, youre definitely wrong, bout whatever you said. i dont read posts that start like this... Hate to say it but.... Arron maybin.... the jets..... spiller....

yes those touchdowns and wins were fake! all those stupid scrambles for positive yards and first downs were actually sacks! He tried to act like he wanted to win but he hated winning, his BC hail mary pass was actually an INT that his friend accidentally caught. I hate all fake players who do this and only are here to "be successful" and "make it" in the NFL. selfish aholes!

it wills be funny when we sack the sh it out of ge no again and youuse guys lose again by 10+ points ge no will have another 3 int game and orton will be the qb you wish you had since pennington. Admit it, that was your last decent quarterback.

the qbs all getting demoted makes alot of sense. if hackett was good hed do what flutie did for our "horrible o line in 98" make us all forget they sucked and make them look good. Orton probably says "f that" to half of what hackett calls, and so we still pull out some wins, but i give orton the credit, and the D, but hacketts pretty worthless.

hacket would look much worse if we didnt have a good D, much worse, its been 2 games now where we barely won, and miami had a st td, or maybe we lose that too. Hacket has plays where wrs all run the same routes or dont really spread the field. he runs from shotgun on too many plays. wont run on 3rd down and 1. his wrs are high talent but barely get the ball. He sucks, not kevin killbride or joe pendry sucks, but sucks non the less.

moats! ... was worth every favre career ending hit.

wow do you guys watch football? they cant "not touch the ball" it would have been a turnover to us. also they cant run a play beyond a feeble return with there slowest players. to the op- you wanted patterson to return one on us or a hail mary/pass interference??? it was a perfect decision and result. edit just saw you meant the first squib...my answer....who gives a f____.

the poll should read what we hope happens, not what we think will happen, i hope hes gone, too many negative drive killing plays setting us in 2-12 type situations whereas dixon or fred gets us in a 2-4 type situation, that and spillers just plain dumb. As a team we can only afford dumb players on defense (like mckelvin)