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Thanks for the follow up. Now I actually remember the mention of the lingering "fragments" from his injury and you're probably right that this did him in. I don't remember him looking like he would do well at LB even before the injury but it appears you have a better memory of him than I do. The "Suck" reference was more of a joke, but thanks anyway for the lesson on injuries

Elaboration

Yep

Refresh my memory about the ruined ankle on Moore. A remember an injury but I don't remember it being a "career altering" one. I pretty much just thought he sucked naturally. IMO, either of those guys could have been molded through strength and conditioning coaching (they were still both considered "tweeners") as their frames were similar, although you are right likely that Freeney has a broader wing span and is a shade taller.

Coy admitted in his post game interview to being out of his position responsibility to be able to make that play. He was asked about Posey but didn't bite. Whomever is to blame, I think it is safe to say that neither Posey nor Wire is any good at playing coverage in space.

I see it more like this (Just me) 2 OL (Og's) - 1 might be here if Williams can learn the position 2 DT's 1 safety (Baker is already here) 0 WR (as long as EM reworks his contract again) 1 LB (Fletcher's eventual replacement, plus Crowell can fit in somewhere once Spikes returns) 1 Corner (this would be 0 if Nate doesn't ask to be the highest paid in the league) 1 OC

He said in his interview that he threw the ball too soon and without a full follow through because he saw the DE (Peppers I think) crashing down on him fast, which I remember seeing on the play as well. He said that he should have trusted Peters more that he would make his block (he ended up getting enough of his man to allow the pass to get off) and that next time he will.

In hindsight we can all see that your suggestion would have worked out great, but do you think that they honestly would have even considered that pick after the Corey Moore experiment? He was the same guy as Freeney in college. In fact , he held the sack record that Freeney broke if I'm not mistaken.

You too !

Who would have thought that even this thread would be vulnerable to a DB Hijack ?

It was very good to see some fellow TBD'ers today and was fun having some interesting football discussion before the game at Lot 1 Pole 5. Gathering near Badol's van today, It was a pleasure to see Badol, Cable Lady, Jay, Kelly the Dog (all the way from the left coast ), Mark VI, a couple of the Syracuse guys (sorry I already have the Screen names messed up ), and others! We all seemed to think the Bills had a chance to win today, but weren't quite sure just exactly how that was going to happen. Neither did the Bills I guess, but it was an entertaining game to be at nonetheless, and I thought JP and Peters both showed more progress in tough situations today.

I'll be there. Will try to make it to Lot 1

Kelly, have you forgotten the "posting guidelines for realists" ? Guidelines

Yes and Yes

I see, so true football knowledge = they agree with you. Got it

Ahh yes thankyou, may I have another? That comment somehow reminds me of a couple of strange recordings from some weird band back in like 1968 that somehow showed up in my cd collection

By reading this thread, I have yet once again reinforced the notion presented to me (without fail upon each visit to this board) that any semi positive opinion or defense of any player, staff member or affiliation with the operation of this team should be promptly swept up and bottled in a hermetically sealed container labled "Koolaid" that can only be viewed directly without harm via wearing a set of color filtered spectacles. This will hold true inspite of any level of knowledge, personal experience, wisdom obtained over years of observation, close and frequent live visual contact of the team's sessions, or any other measure. Thanks for the reminder, I almost forget these simple guidelines sometimes.

Oh sure, NOW you speak up in this infamous debate which has been crusaded by a stubborn few ad nauseum Where were you those 67 other times, hmm?

I'd take our skill players over theirs any day of the week, although I would like to see him behind that pass protection

Plus he's STILL injured.

Thankyou

What's this "sneaking out" bit? He had his regular presser after the game.

Not a bad look at next year's personnell issues Just a couple of my own points -I would also keep Fletcher (he is only as good as the line in front of him). -Big Mike needs to be given a fair chance (more than 38 reps at) at LG although something needs to be done with his salary. - Moulds can still provide value as a possesion guy but (like above) not at his current salary - I also think that with Proper execution by the guys next to him (ie helping him out with the big DT's when they are supposed to), Teague has been a pretty productive player here.

That's George Wilson. I think the fact that the Bills want to be sure they always have atleast 4 active kick/punt return home run threats in the game makes it so we will not see him any time soon

It's pretty sad when the only person playing well for your team is the first year starting quarterback This is 2001 pathetic!