DieHardFan

Row 1 and in the lower bowl NOT the clubs.

Not much of a brain teaser. Many that can't see the game decide to come and don't want the leftovers for sale when they can get better and/or multiple seats together for less or a few bucks more. Gameday prices are always higher during blackouts than sold out games.

Absolutely wrong. The core fans are there no matter what the weather but the fringe are strongly influenced by the (seasonal) timing of the game and the actual weather on game day. I sell tickets every year and the demand for late season games always lags the early ones. Look at sales on Ebay or StubHub and the games with the most demand and $'s paid are early in the season. First home game has demand whoever plays. In past years a mia or ne late season game would spike interest but that has changed in the last 3 - 5 years. It's interesting that the $'s paid and demand was very strong in late summer and early fall (ne, minn, and gb games helped as they always draw opp fans). After the chi and det losses the bottom fell out of the market.

Traffic was somewhat worse due to people actually staying until the end of the game but most of the slowdown was Tgiving travel. Should be alot of fun after the titans game. Try getting off at the Transit road exit (last one before the toll gates) and going down rt 20, much faster. See your other post for info on the Utica blackout.

Actually you'll get them twice a year when they play the jets. I'm in the same situation as you (live in Utica but go to the games) but if you ever can't make a game the blackout ends in Herkimer. See this post for more info on blackout rules.

I believe you are misinterpreting the map. It shows the area that is expected to carry the Bills game. May not have been updated to show the purported Binghamton flip. Only those stations that broadcast to an area within 75 miles of the stadium are affected. If we (Utica) had our own CBS affiliate and carried it solely instead of WTVH and it didn't reach within 75 miles of the stadium (almost certain) Utica would not be blacked out. Or more realistically if the NFL wasn't such greedy SOBs they wouldn't use a loophole to exclude WTVH. [Don't have the exact figures but it's about a 10 mile strip if I remember correctly.] Theoretically possible that WTVH could just lower it's output on gamedays so it could carry the game.

Not exactly a stellar endorsement.Your Rep

No more yankie my wankie. The Donger need food.

I agree that the security staff at RWS sucks but you can't blame them for the pat attack. Have you ever seen security patrol any NFL parking lots? If called they will respond but then it's too late. The culprits here are the 12th fans that kept walking and let the melee continue.

It will never happen. They have successfully banned food and beverage (remember when you could bring in thermoses?) on the pretext of "security". Relaxing the policy for a game would ruin that facade.

Exactly! Walk in from lot 5 and notice the difference once you pass from the lava lots into the club seating lots. Bud vs Perrier.

And you probably think stroking your pecker 16 times at random intervals yields the same result as 16 consecutive strokes. Only one warrants wiping the slate clean.

That's absurd. Put them up for public consumption and the scalpers wouldn't even need a pair of STs for early entry. Plus the "enemy" fans could buy them from the Bill's directly at cost and afford to buy even more. Every year there are plenty of STHs that offer to buy tickets at cost for board members. Buy a sh!tload and sell them at cost if you are such a hometown hero. I'll sell you my extra season Titans tickets currently on StubHub for $45 for the $38 net price. I expect a dead silence. There are also plenty of tickets for sale on the Trading Post for cost or below. Doesn't help when ingrates complain that "at cost" includes the pre-season cost. Originaly joined the board to sell excess seasons and when it became clear that it was folly tried to offer them for less than net profit from StubHub prior to listing them and still got no takers. Gave up on the cheap SOB's on the board years ago. Every year the demand for tickets is not by schedule but by time of year. Fair weather fans go in Sep and Oct and then demand drops. There are sell-outs but only because a Bills Ticket is the biggest bargain in the league and corporate buy-outs are still necessary at times. Didn't like being surrounded by the patsie SOBs either (and no I didn't sell to one, personally I'll lose profit before I sell a pats or fins ticket to an opponent fan) but if enemy fans think the seats are more valuable than "loyal" fans like you than more power to them.

Hmmm, Longwinded, Arrogant, Argumentative, Stubborn... Start pounding out about 20 posts a day and you should loose that Rookie rating and be a full fledged Veteran.

If only they could jail people for excessively anal nitpicking.

Typical front orifice blunder. From D&C 9/30 article (on TBD) "Berchtold [scott Berchtold, vice president of communications for the Buffalo Bills] said fans would not encounter any changes in security procedures entering the game or traffic patterns around the stadium. He said the club has not made provisions to add more security personnel. An advisory e-mailed to ticket buyers on Friday didn't mention the Clintons' visit." No signs, no one directing traffic at the gate, just a wall of people. I was swimming through the crowd at Gate 7/8 and trying to get people to move towards 9 when someone told me it was closed. Would have been pissed if I'd gotten there and found out. The ironic part is that due to the crowd the screenings were much less thorough. [Not that I'm complaining]. Usually have to open camera bag and pull out camera but didn't even need to unzip it.

Sorry Thurston but sitting in the clubs is not being AT the game but merely being in the vicinity of the game without the benefit of being in your living room and still having to deal with the traffic both ways. And economizing to be there is a faux pax; if you have to worry about how much they cost you shouldn't be buying them. It does keep my real seats priced lower so there is some benefit. Next year stay home, buy an HD TV on the 5 year plan and watch the game at home. I'll sell you my ticket stub for $20 and for the same money you can still act cool like you really attended the game.

I've had seasons since 90 and have only missed a couple of handfulls of games. IMO this is probably a little more than half the reason. More aggressive enforcement and severity of DWI laws, prohibiting the influx of items (mostly alcohol but believe it or not I used to bring in parts to make a homemade shelf that I set up on the wall in front of my seats; try that today) and the NFLs push to make stadium football a more family experience are other factors. [i have my views on the merits of these moves and I'm sure you(pl) do too but they have been discussed in nauseating detail in other threads. Don't start in this one please.] However in regards to the topic, sadly in historic terms but hopeful in terms of present day factors I felt yesterday's was one of the the best crowds I've seen in the last 4 years. I don't always stand but feel that others have the right to do so if they wish. Unfortunately, RWS's low walls contribute to this. [For comparison JR's walls are about 3 times as high.] Since the walls are so low the only way to SEE (not view via the Jumbotron) the field over the sideline crowd when the action is downfield or directly in front is to stand up. Photographers, security and other sideliners used to be forced to kneel to allow better viewing but this is no longer done. In fact the NYS Troopers on the sideline do NOTHING but watch the game and even worse wear their hats. Not sure if they are supposed to be doing anything or not but they don't. When the first three or four rows stand the domino effect requires everyone to do so. Again, a hotly debated subject. I personally stand, yell and scream with the best of them. I prefer that others do the yelling and screaming to enhance the home team advantage but it is their choice to refrain as much as it is mine to indulge. Not sure that standing significantly contributes to the noise. I've stayed to the (many times bitter) end for about 90% of the games I've attended, left about 2% early due to obligations and about 8% since I was so disgusted I didn't think the team deserved any fans to remain. Yesterday's exodus was not warranted IMO but the weather was probably as much of a factor as the game.

The oldies were introduced pre-game in groups according to the years they played. Came out via the blowup funhouse just prior to the D players. Ferguson was the last guy in the last group and got a pretty good reception.

Well, you can look forward to Ricky smoking up the field next year (as long as he quits smoking off it this year ).

That's the most absurd defense I've heard from you yet. I'm really starting to get concerned about your mental health. If DTV ever goes breasts up they'd have to put you on suicide watch. I'm glad that you keep preaching the gospel though; there are probably one or two members that are not aware of your advocacy of DTV. It would be much more efficient to pin a thread extolling the virtues of DTV than to infiltrate any thread with a modicum of relevance. I do admire your ability to multi-task though. I have enough trouble following the Bills game in detail yet you can watch the game, all others on the ticket and be in the chat room simultaneously. Impressive. I've had C/Ku Band then DTV and/or cable for 10's of years. Have both at present. I have noticed that you conveniently forget to mention the equinox outages that always seems to come during something you really wanted to record. But then again you are an advocate of DTV, I abhor DTV's practices but only prefer cable as their product is the lesser of two evils. In my experience, cable goes down less frequently but for longer periods than DTV but the bottom line is that both have 5 9's reliability, so outages are an abberation not a given. Both have business practices that are anti-consumer and would never be tolerated without massive junkets for the politicians and regulators. Since you want to venture into bizzaro land I can play that game too. I'm not a statistician although I'm sure there is one here (plus the regulars who know everything about anything, just ask them) but I would venture that the odds of that metal dish getting blasted by lightening is much more likely than a truck hitting a pole and knocking your cable out for "Days" (I believe Buffalo was up before the end of the game not days.) I do disagree with your opinion that "Unfortunately, there's not a lot they can do" about the lousy installers. They (as well as the cable companies) can take some of their profits and either police them better or hire their own. It's not rocket science, just cost cutting at the expense of customers and in the cases mentioned at the expense of obtaining additional customers.

Nah, They revel in it. Kinda like a dog rolling in his own sh--.

Or This

Alright TBDers, time to put some or that hate, discontent and venomous wit to work. Current EBay auction: Buffalo Bills 11/5 Packers cheap club level tickets tem number: 300024836142 listed by hungovermonkey has the following description: Buffalo Bills vs Green Bay Packers. Sunday, November 5, 1pm. Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, NY. 2 tickets--Section 242 Row 10; seats are together. Winning bid gets both tickets. They're being sold below face value since no one seems to want to see Brett Favre play his final game in Buffalo. In fact, it seems like no one ever even wants to see the Bills play any game. Why is there a football team in Buffalo if there are no fans? This guy is asking for it. Let him have it.

Maybe there is some hope for this board.