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Jets got a (in football years) very old QB, could they strike lightning once like the Bucs did? Maybe but then again the Bucs made it to the playoffs as a wildcard team and they started off poorly till Brady pretty much took over the team culture.. (or at least that what they said) So maybe they tank and Rogers does Roger type things and pouts about it. As for Miami, they are getting the hype, IMO because they hung with the Bills last year with a 3rd string QB.. so all the “smart” talking heads figure with Tua they will be unstoppable. (Flawed logic, but a logic to it as well)

As I mentioned the hype started after they did something. They were always overlooked before then. Heck in 2001 I heard all the talking heads saying how the greatest show on turf was going to destroy the Pats like the 85 Bears… second SB we were told they “got lucky” make it.. 3rd one they were hyped up to the hilt.. but damn it took getting their 3 out of 4 years lol get that!

The Pats hype at least started after they actually had done SOMETHING! The Jets have done nothing yet.. I think it wasn’t till the 3rd SB appearance(?) that they truly got hyped up..

I expect them to sadly be good, but all the fawning by experts saying how they will take the AFCE and ride into the SB is annoying. I have always disliked the Jets the most of any f the East rivals, but God it would be so nice to see them start off the year going 0-4 or 1-3. It starts with your Bills knocking them off in Jersey, followed by games against Cowboys, Pats, and Chiefs.. so 1-3 could easily happen!

Even Brady led teams.. Patriots - Edelman, Gronk, Brady 01-04 Patriots - Brady, Law, Harrison Bucs - the team was just loaded and just needed a QB.

So by your logic, Shula must have been a crappy coach since he couldn’t even win 1 SB with a top 5 QB of all time in Marino. also Allen is the best QB in the East, old man Rogers is the second best followed by Tua and Jones.. in the NFL it’s Mahomes, Burrow, and Allen (with Hurt coming up fast)

Lol first Jones barely played in the preseason.. (so wasn’t hit a lot that be Zappe who got hit like a pinyata) second Reiff had been moved to guard because he had been so horrid at tackle. there is a reason they made 2 trades for OT because outside of inconsistent Brown the RT was a turn style in the preseason.

Well let’s break down the position battles: Jets D Line v Bills O line — Advantage Jets Bills D line v Jets O line — advantage Bills Jets secondary against Bills Receivers — slight advantage Jets/ push.. it’s close. Bills Secondary v Jets WR — Advantage Bills Running Backs — advantage Jets wild cards? QBs who will show up? Aaron Rogers — has Father Time caught up with him or was last year an aberration? Allen — he is a top 4 QB, but he sometimes gets into trouble when he tries to play hero ball and with the Jets secondary that could be fatal. outlook— I wouldn’t bet on this game period. My Gutt says Jets in a close one but the Bills could easily win it truly comes down to how the QBs both handle the other teams too 10 D.

If Allen stays healthy I see him being top 4 QB. I think the Bills will go to the AFCCG game but come up just short of the SB. I think Lawrence is going to light it up this year and be the media darling.

I see 11-6 and Bills win the division, they lose a couple of tough games late and at least 1 game where they have a clunker. That is a game where everything goes wrong. They go to the divisional round and win over KC and lose in the AFCCG by a FG late.

Lol I misspelled it because the e is right next to the w and I have fat fingers lol.. and Burrow just sounds wrong in the sentence.

I don’t know special teams killed the patriots week 18 in Buffalo lol… My point was that without the guys on the line doing their job you could have Brady,Mahomes or Montana back there and they would still struggle. If I am not wrong the weakness for the Bills is the O line, or at least what I hear here all the time.

Can I just add the Patriots do not have the success they had without Scar, the Offensive line coach. They had dominant O lines till he retired . The first time he retired and that’s when Brady almost got killed by Denver in the AFCCG ( BB convinced him to come back) then he retired again after 2018 SB win and the O line been meh to bad since, so has the team. May that be the piece the Bills are missing on O?? Point well taken!! FYI Brady gave his team the lead with 2 minutes or less to go in every SB except for the last Eagles SB. Which just proves your point it takes more than just 1 man or side of the ball to win.

Wow! That is some research there! Can I just add another. The SuperBiwl against the eagles : Brady: 505 yards 3 TDs 105 QB rating.. They lost that SB because the D gave up 40+ points. Defense can win and lose championships. (Or the chance to even go to the championship Bills .13 Seconds left to go with the lead and the D couldn’t stop the Chiefs)

Lol the voices in the ear has been disproven and stated by the NFL as false as the NFL HAS CONTROL OVER WHEN THEY GET SHUT OFF. The under inflated balls part also proven false because they fumbled LESS after Deflategate. (Look up the stats) I love how you say “gifted” when they still had to execute and score the points to win/ or make the play on the ball and intercept it. I understand not liking the guy but such hatred is just not healthy.. let it go! You have the new beast of the East in Allen enjoy it

My bad, for some reason I thought it was 2018 he joined the Bills. But he probably made a difference in 2019 for NE, another option for Brady besides Edelman.

Well his other option was to go to NE and play with Brady… So his career arc would been very similar to what it was.

That’s because he could never ever say a Michigan QB was better than him a ND QB. Lol that said this topic is dumb.. so many great QBs never win a SB. Some never even make the dance.

Not a good example… the Lions were/are a dysfunctional organization. I like the Marino comparison.. hmm does that make Shula a lesser coach since he never won a SB with Marino? Lol

Time. Brady when he first entered the league was told “just don’t screw it up!”. After 10 years Brady saw every possible defense. He also had an amazing football IQ like P Manning.. I don’t know how Allen’s is but not everyone is super smart in reading defenses most are well average at it. OMG! The Bills were gassed and it was obvious.. I mean it took a huge performance by the O to beat the Dolphins who had a THIRD string QB starting that game and it was at HOME!

Umm maybe because he has to go through Mahomes and Burroes to even get to the SB. also comparing Allen to the GOAT just isn’t fair! Brady was one of the best ever reading Defenses in NFL history. He also was not forced to carry the team when he first started, the Pats D carried the team and let him develop. Allen been the man since day 1.

I like the sun retiring commercial with him in it. “Can I take a selfie Mr Marino?” Lol

Then you would first get fined then eventually suspended for doing such a thing. Not allowed to publicly call out the refs.

Stafford always had a god awful team around him! There is a reason why the 2 best players in Lions history both retired in their primes.. lol

Had Rogers ever had a division that was good? I am asking I can’t think of one elite QB or team in the Packers division.. maybe the Vikings but they haven’t had a really good QB in forever.