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Do any of those teams also employ a back whos making almost 9 million?

If we lose him - we get a pick. If we keep him... we keep him and lose nothing. Lose him = trade and acquisition of a pick. Keep him = keeping your own player and loss of nothing except cap space. It is nothing like a trade.

Were you here when McCoy punched an off-duty cop? That must've been over 100

Yes - the end result is "like" a trade... but if you sign him - you are exactly where you were when you tendered him - just paying him more. How is that "losing" a 5th round pick? We never had it to begin with.

No it doesnt. That's not how it works at all. We get him at the contract that he signed with NE. We don't trade NE anything. Why would they get a pick for trying to poach a player?

You're not trading anything because you don't have it yet. You get the 5th if you let him leave, you get him if you match the offer.

To be fair - in 2014 Dixon did lead the team in YPA... Williams was a rookie who didn't play a down of football in 2015. And before that we always had 2 solid backs - because they were both always injured. Cierre Wood had 2 carries for us in 2015. I'm not sure that's really a fair way to judge him.

To be fair to booker, Anderson went out in week 8 and he also had 265 yards receiving.

2nd round tender would mean... 2.7 million. for 1 year. The AAV for this contract is what... 3.25? We would only have him for the 1 year, and we wouldn't have negotiated an extension.

For NE, they value him as a starter - hence where they are paying him.

If you tender him at 2nd round pick - he makes 2.7 million... 1.3 less than the deal he just signed. And you only get 1 year of control. More importantly, when you are negotiating with someone typically you don't want to start at essentially your AAV cut off.

The only argument for keeping him that makes sense to me - is planning on cutting McCoy in 2018.

It's 2 years of control... at a fairly high cap hit in year 1. If we sign a UDFA, or draft someone in rds 5-7 we pay them significantly less, for longer control. If we keep him - its a sign that McCoy is gone next season. If we draft someone in rounds 2-4, i could see McCoy still on the chopping block next year. Yeah - same here regarding hogan. We signed him off the scrap heap, I think I assumed one of the scrap heap guys we signed (Salas, Little, Boykin) would just fill the gap.

You can't keep everything.

They've been solid since they hired parcells. Carroll was OK there, but obviously a solid coach. Then the ultimate parcells disciple in belichick (and the greatest head coach of all time). Coaches clearly make a major difference. Maybe this new guy will be good... All we can really hope for at this point.

If we gave him 2nd round compensation the cap hit was 3 million instead of 4... and there's no year 2.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/RB

The 2nd round tender boosts the starting point for extension negotiations. At that point he's almost guaranteed to be a UFA in 2018. We can have him for 2, or someone else for 4. I may tend towards keeping him... just because we draft so terribly in the late rounds.

Does he push us to the playoffs this year?

Ha - i'll eat my words on this one. I guess what i mean to say is - F Tom brady for making so little against the cap, and allowing them to absorb bad contracts for good players.

Amendola took another pay cut to stay with the team too. How many bills have done that? Oh right - just our QB.

It doesn't matter who their running back is - he's going to run all over us. It's a committee approach. They have White, lewis, bolden burkhead, maybe gillislee. It never mattered before they beat us anyway.

I'm aware of how it's structured. It was structured with the idea of keeping him on the roster, and freeing up cap space for 2017. if you cut him next year you can split 8.5 over two years. Or just restructure again...

ummm his cap hit this year is only 9 million to be our starting QB.

Everyone's argument is why don't we get a franchise QB... As if there is 0 focus on it. We only brought in like every single QB for a visit. I think we're looking into it guys.