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Oh, just enjoy a win. Wow!

Oh boy, here we go.

Let the man coach.

If coach didn't like what he saw on the field, it was a good timeout.

Must suck to watch a game with you.

Coming around, I see.

This is why you don't sacrifice special teams for Duke. Although with the injuries today, he's probably playing Thurs. Hope he does well.

So, is nextmanup talking out the side of his neck when he says it happened at a press conference?

I was prescribed oxycontin twice in my life. Tried it the 1st time. I ended up trading with my weed dealer.

Dammit WEO, you beat me to it! Was gonna ask if anyone thinks the Edmonton Eskimos would have made it if Duke was still there.

Gronk.

Yep. Same here.

Come on T.Y. Hilton! I need some points from you!

Limited reps and limited targets are 2 different things. In the 3 games Duke was in, he got 120 snaps. I wouldn't call 120 reps in 3 games limited. In those 3 games the only wrs with more snaps were Brown and Cole. Plus, coaches see what he can do at every practice. Sure, the targets were limited(7), but as I asked before, if he's not getting open, why throw a contested ball when someone else is open? Not sure the best plan of attack is to try a contested pass when someone else is getting open. He got plenty of chances(reps). He just didn't do enough to get more targets. We're in the middle of a potential playoff run. Now is not the time to "try" things out when the numbers show the offense is doing better without him out there. JMO.

Yep, he did call Ogu a B. And well deserved. Should have said punk ass B!

Mason was asked and he did say nothing was said to make Myles get pissed. Pretty sure I saw this on ESPN. I would assume using a racial slur falls under that. I'm leaning to Mason didn't use a racial slur. Just my take.

I missed Dan being on the show. Stugotz should be so thankful to Dan for that show. What would he do without Dan? "You just don't get the show"

Didn't like the pick when drafted, but I'm warming up to it. Through the 1st 5 games this year: 9 total td's (6 passing and 3 rushing) 7 ints and 5 fumbles. Not pretty. The last 5 games this year: 11 total tds(7 passing and 4 rushing) 0 ints and 4 fumbles. ZERO INTs !! Keep throwing to our guys, but tuck that ball away.

The staff has brought in a wr on pace for 90 receptions and 1300 yds along with another on pace for 68 receptions and 718 yds. Sure, Brown was a proven commodity, what's that go to do with anything? Beane tried to get him the year before. Even the best gm's out there miss on a few, but it looks like they fixed it to me. It's ok to let the Kelvin thing go. If you're looking for the perfect GM, you'll never be happy. So, yes I trust them. Instead of picking 1 game to establish Duke can run block, I presented numbers that showed a trend when Duke got the call. Passing numbers way down AND rushing numbers way down. It is what it is, regardless of the Browns game. Can you explain the trend? Four games pre Duke, almost 148 a game on the ground. With Duke, 108 per game on the ground. Post Duke, 124.6 on the ground. Again it is what it is. My analogy is not based on 1 game, but a trend with Duke playing vs. without Duke. Maybe, just maybe Duke wasn't getting the targets cuz he wasn't open. Why would you throw to a wr that is not open when you can throw to an open wr? Because he's big and can fight for it?! Passing numbers went way down with Duke in the lineup compared to Pre and Post Duke. If he was getting open, he would have had more chances. Duke sits and both running and passing picks up, by a lot. When you take a faster wr out for Duke, we really only have 1 down field threat(Brown). That was a really slow group of wr's with Duke in there and it showed. Now we have more of a down field presence, wr's are open more for it and no need to fight for a ball cuz someone isn't open. Plus our TE's can do what Duke does and are better blockers. I was as happy as anyone when he caught that TD, but he just doesn't offer enough right now to break into the starting 53. He tried and it looks like our offense suffered for it. Hope he gets better and produces, but he shouldn't come up just cuz he's 6'2" and 215lbs. It really is hard to argue Duke makes the offense better given what has occurred while he was playing. The trend and numbers show just the opposite. If he's brought up at all, it will most likely be due to injury. Who knows, he might be given a shot during the stretch of tough games coming up(Ravens, Steelers, Pats). Maybe we need his physical presence during that stretch. We'll see. Hopefully the TE's produce in that stretch.

They did explore him as an option He had his chance and our scoring didn't improve, but passing #'s sank. He sits again, scoring goes up and passing #'s drastically improve. Our passing game was better with Zay in there. Check the #'s. I put them in a previous post. You say he's a good edge blocker, but the rushing #'s dropped when Duke played. By a lot. Pre Duke rushing avg per game: 147.25 While Duke played avg per game: 108 Post Duke rushing avg per game: 124.6 Passing numbers dropped by a lot, as did rushing numbers when Duke was in. He then sits and those numbers go up, by a lot. He had his chance and the offense went south while he played. Both passing and rushing. Isn't it easier to actually be open rather than have to fight for the ball cuz you can't get separation? He needs work on run blocking, getting separation from the line of scrimmage without help from a running start and if he's gonna contribute, he really needs to work on ST play. Right now he's just a big slow WR. We have TE's for that. The numbers tell an interesting story, but as others here say, "It takes this staff so damn long to make what seems to us fans easy decisions" or "there is room to explore other personnel options on this roster"(even though they already did).

Here's why I trust the staff and why it makes sense: 4 games pre-Duke: We avg. 19 points per game and 225.75 passing yds per game 3 games with Duke: We avg. 19.33 points per game and 181 passing yds per game 3 games since Duke has been a healthy scratch: We avg. 25.6 points per game and 227.3 passing yds per game Duke got his chance. He scored a TD. We still only scored 14 points that game. Overall his presence hasn't helped like some thought it would. Scoring went up by only .33 per game from the previous 3 games and passing yds went DOWN by over 44 yds per game with him in the lineup. Duke then sits and scoring goes up by over 6 points per game and passing yds go up by over 46 yds per game. Seems the passing game was better both pre and post Duke.

Haven't you heard? He's missing and on some milk carton. Coaches are looking for him, but apparently he's not showing up. Seriously, you couldn't just reply to the other thread? Mods, do we get treats or something for starting a thread?

Barkley be like "Mike, did you see what that guy wrote!? He ain't even me, and I ain't got no rings!!"

A few words for Alex: Golf Fishing Grilling Coaching Beautiful wife and kids Retire

For whatever it's worth to some of you, I was listening to WGR earlier and Sal Capaccio spoke briefly about Duke not being on the game day roster. He basically said what the bold part of my reply says. We're fine in the red zone without him. Actually, we're pretty good. We just need to get there more often and we have been over the past 3 games. Why mess with a good thing? I'm trusting the coaches on this one. He also mentioned ST. Duke isn't fast enough to play ST, so doesn't see him taking a spot over a WR that plays ST. To end his discussion on Duke, Sal also mentioned the coaching staff see's Duke everyday in practice. They would use him if they felt he gave them something they don't have or need. I still feel his biggest issue is getting separation of the snap without the running start. I'm sure he's working on it. He has got good hands. It is a world of difference from last year where we can keep someone like him inactive, when last year he would be a starter on the Bills. That's how bad we were last year at WR.