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With the rough rule of thumb, the 3rd in 2018 would be worth a 4th this year. From what I understand, most teams use their own internal chart that vary slightly from the one posted here. Also, it's very important to understand that each draft is different and results can vary wildly depending on who is available. For example, there is no way you were trading into the #2 spot for the Luck/RG3 draft like Chicago did today. It took a king's ransom to get that pick because of the players involved. The naysayers can point out the aberrations, but for the most part the draft chart is still very much alive.

Bears 2600 49ers 2200+255+104+41= 2600 It's right using the rough rule of thumb method of devaluing future picks by 1 round.

We're sacrificing a little bit of value for more personnel. This team has a lot of holes to fill. There's also very little room for the Chiefs to improve, and a ton of room for them to drop which would only benefit us.

If no one is there, trade down again.

McDermott for mayor.

What an amazing trade. Is this the Bills front office I'm watching?

Jerry throwing shade

Leroi has given some good inside info before, but you're not going to convince me that he's privy to the team's draft board 24 hours before the draft. When you're picking 10th, it's not difficult to name 5 players and hit on one of them. That being said, if his top 4 players are off the board and we pick John Ross, I will come back to this thread for my mea culpa. I'll be absolutely sick to my stomach, but I'll come back to give credit.

It was a huge mistake to keep Whaley on board -- he should have been gone with Ryan back in December. However, if these rumors are true and we fire him and the scouting staff after the draft, I would question if Pegula has lost his sanity. He's starting to make the late George Steinbrenner seem patient and rational. Then again, if Whaley attempts to trade our 2018 1st rounder to move up in this draft, I would fire him on the spot and have him escorted out of the building by security on national television.

"I don’t think you would find anybody leaving home for the holidays because of a football game." I think he's very, very mistaken about this. As soon as the schedule was released last night, there's been a lot of buzz from friends about getting tickets for this game and booking flights. It surprised me because these are people that would never typically travel to see the Bills. The game is just the sideshow to the real event -- partying in downtown Miami on NYE.

The Pats just signed Dan Blysma and Tim Murray.

They fired the wrong GM.

Two years ago he threw for more yards and TDs in a season than any QB in Bills' franchise history, so I don't think you close the door on him just yet. That being said, turning him over to Nate Hackett at this stage in his career seems like cruel and unusual punishment.

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You're correct. High roster churn, low number of draft picks, and minimal cap space are all the result of trying to build a team through free agency. You simply cannot sustain a competitive roster with this approach in today's game. It's the wrong approach, philosophy, business plan - whatever you want to call it. Those of us that chide Whaley for this don't just "want more comp picks." We want a GM that understands that you have to build through the draft, and one that knows how to manipulate and take advantage of the current system. Getting 6 draft picks in the first 4 rounds is a ridiculously huge competitive advantage for the teams smart enough to exploit it year in and year out. And no, this doesn't mean you cannot be aggressive in free agency. Our pals the Patriots put on a crazy free agent fireworks display this offseason. Would anyone disagree? And yet there they are, still in position to get 1 comp pick next year. Based on Sheard's $8.5M APY, it could be a 3rd, but will probably be no lower than a 4th. In our case, comp picks are just the symptom of a much, much larger problem.

You can still pick up free agents and get compensatory picks every year. Well, the smart front offices can, which eliminates us. The same posters here that think this is just about comp picks are the same people that start the "Is the stadium built on a cursed burial ground??" posts every December.

You're absolutely correct, but good luck trying to explain this. The football IQ of some of the replies in this thread is embarrassing. I watch other teams manipulate picks years down the road with the shrewdness of a chess grandmaster, while Doug Whaley can't figure out how to open the box. Incorrect. It is.

The best backup in the NFL.

Anyone who thinks we're attempting to build through the draft, clearly doesn't understand what building through the draft means.

"I really don’t want to go to a different team” means he didn't get any other offers.

When you have a HOF QB nearing the end of his career, you can (wisely) shift into "Win Now" mode and mortgage some of your future. Our myopic GM is perpetually stuck in "Win Now" mode.

If that's true, then it's a great deal.

You simply can't judge a contract without the full details. I would be surprised if he took less guaranteed money, and that's going to hit the cap at some point.

Closer to a fact.

I'm not seeing the full details. His cap for this year is nice, but what is it down the road? I doubt he took less guaranteed money.