Livinginthepast

I really believe after years of this mediocre coaching that the average Bills fan actually DOES KNOW MORE about what to do, who to play and how to coach than most of the past few coaches combined. We just seem to continuously get guys as HCs in here that are dumb, don't think on their feet or make inexplicable decisions in game. I am at a loss to explain this except in the sense that maybe when you are too close to the action as a HC would be, you are completely compromised and have no perspective. I really was impressed by Schwartz's coaching against Detroit. Now I realize that it was because it was his old team!! He looked like a HS coach out there yesterday, no adjustments and doing nothing that worked in the 2nd half when he should have been blitzing the hell out of Brady! FFS how hard can it be to figure that out about Brady. You have 14 years of film to watch!!

You are absolutely right. I replayed this 3 times on slow mo and nobody (esp Wynn) is in an offside position or jumps forward. A completely chincy call for that point in the game. Whats even worse is that the idiot officials did not call a fumble on Edelman in the first place. Regardless of the BS penalty at full speed it looks like a catch and a strip. They should have called that a fumble and then dealt with the flag but no that would assume competency! To make this travesty of a call even worse, the fox announcers dont even show a replay of the supposed infraction by Wynn. Instead they show the fumble and then dont make mention of the massive call against the Bills that negates any possibility of that fumble. Absolutely unacceptable but perfectly normal in today's NFL.

That could be in the running for worst call I have ever seen in the NFL period!! absolutely insane!! But as others have mentioned, good teams win despite being screwed over by the officials. They really should be calling these guys on their mistakes. Make a dumb call and your rating as an official goes down. Make a few terrible calls and you dont work games anymore.

Actually in 35 years of watching the NFL, College, CFL or whatever football you can name. I have rarely seen such blatantly stupid pass interference. He doesnt turn around to the ball = pretty stupid. But shoving the guy in the back before the ball is even close? epically inept!!!

Its been a long time since I have seen a kicker miss so badly twice in one game. Not since Vanderjagt in the playoffs a few years back. The mechanics of both kicks INSIDE a dome were bizarre!! How does the ball fly like that without wind??

Chum is Fum!!!

Rob Johnson by far the worst Eric Flowers Chis Watson BJ Hobart

The Bills O Line was under severe pressure all game, EJ was getting sacked, hurried and hit after he released the ball regularly. They had to know it was going to be like this. So why didn't they make some adjustments for the poor protection? Why no screens or draw plays? Why do they do nothing out of the ordinary to keep the defense guessing? Is Hacket just a poor coordinator with a vanilla offense or is severely limited by EJ in what plays he can run? They were so predictable out there it must have been easy for the Texans D.

What I cannot figure out about EJ is if they don't want him to run because they are afraid he will get hurt or because he will do something down with the ball. He is so one dimensional if he cannot even threaten to run.

I think the last time that the Bills played in Detroit on Thanksgiving was in 1994 when they got killed by the Lions in an embarrassing sloppy loss. It would heighten my interest if they were to play again though and the Bills actually showed up ready to compete!

Took the words right out of my mouth. I think Dierdorf was exhibiting clear signs of premature senility. I mean he has said some dumb things, he has showed his lack of knowledge about so many nuances in the game over the last few years but what he said there was borderline retarded. Completely inexplicable to be so clueless on what the punter should have done in that situation. Then he tries to cover himself with an even more idiotic explanation saying that the Pats punter should have just sat on the ball instead of a safety because the Pats D could have held the Colts and they could have got a FG??!! Yes Dan letting the Colts score 3 points is somehow better for the Pats than the Colts getting 2. What on earth?!!

I thought the article was quite well done. What scares me a little is that I have been in that situation of drunken stupidity at many a Bills game. Probably the worst was Kelly's last game vs the Jags. After that I began to seriously cut down my alcohol consumption. By the early 2000s I was barely drinking at all. Maybe it was the sobering up, maybe it was getting older into my 30s or maybe it was my best buddy getting crappy season ticket seats in a very sketchy section of stadium filled with drunken fools. In any case I stopped going to games after an incident in the men's toilet waiting in line to pee. I was waiting in line and went next to pee and a guy who wasnt in the line I was in (and was wasted) thought that I budded in front of him. I didnt think anything of it until I left the restroom and another friend who was there with me said that the drunken guy who thought I budded was apparently incensed at me and was planning on jumping me ouside with his pals for budding. Once I heard that I was so disgusted and angry I became paranoid for the rest of the day and wanted to beat this idiot's face in. When I thought about it later in a calmer mood I asked myself if it was worth it to make the long drive over the border early on a Sunday and get drunk only to worry about having to be in a brawl with some drunken fool. Maybe in my 20s would that be exciting, not in my 30's. Dont get me wrong, by in large probably 90% of the Bills fans I met tailgating and at the stadium over the 1990s and 2000s were really nice, down to earth people but it just takes one to ruin the experience for a long time. I can't imagine though how I would feel if I was a fan of an opposing team going into the Ralph, that would be nuts!

OT but is Sully no longer on WGR at all this season or have I missed something? Its been all Joe B on Mondays at Sully's old time slot.

This is a solid post. The only solution based on this logic unfortunately is for Ralph to relinquish control (which he will not do) or for him to die (and then some new owner steps back and doesn’t meddle). Ralph will probably not give up control, not sell the team while he is alive and (the scariest part) Live until he is 120!!! In any event we are stuck with the sycophants that are running this team into the ground until then!!

There was no PI whatsoever on that throw, None! The ref Call before that on the previous Pats TD where the defender got called for hitting a defenseless receiver was bogus as well. That really gave the Pats field position after the onside kick.

how dumb is Mckelvin on that punt?

wow what an inept offensive unit!

because the Bucs are sooo bad, does that make their epic perfomance today vs the Bills = the Bills worst game of the season? This is a pretty big stinker served up by the entire Bills squad today.

Here is another article from today's Toronto Star: http://www.thestar.com/sports/football/2013/12/04/nfl_picks_buffalo_bills_need_a_new_dance_partner_kelly.html

This is absolutely true. I hated these idiots who were just ANTI Buffalo (not even fans of any other NFL team) growing up in St.Catharines in the 90s. Keep in mind that is in Niagara, right next to Buffalo. The hatred of the Bills gets worse as you get closer to Toronto!

Jeffrey Loria (the scumbag) who owned the Expos cooked up a secret deal to sell them to MLB with Bud Selig and the owner of the Marlins. The people of Montreal and Expos fans were not even considered. There were no last minute attempts to save the franchise by Selig who apparently couldnt care less about the Expos and their history in Montreal or the long history that Montreal had with baseball (like Jackie Robinson playing there in the minors). Selig just did it. Its that kind of scenario that really scares me about the Bills future and what might happen if Ralph passes and a potential ownership group appears that wants to move them. Do you really want to trust Roger Goodell to make the right decision in that event? I dont think that Goodell gives a crap about the fans in WNY or Bills fans in general or any of the traditions of football in this area. He would looks at this entirely as a business decision for his money making juggernaut. I just hope that somebody steps up from the area and keeps the team here. I especially dont want the Rogers group or that Ahole Bon Jovi to get their filthy hands on the franchise!

This has actually happened to me as a baseball fan as I was a huge Montreal Expos fan in the 80s and 90s. Then their scumbag owner moved them out of Montreal to Washington. I couldnt care less about baseball now overall because of that and I don't think many Expos fans care about the Nationals. This would be a question to ask Los Angeles Cleveland or Baltimore fans when their teams moved. Or even Oakland Raider fans on their move to LA. I know I would hate the Toronto Bills especially.

We might have. We might have lost the game in just as excruciating fashion. Hell this is the Bills after all. But to say that Ryan and the Falcons would not have been negatively affected by the noise and weather at the Ralph is ludicrous.

So you are basically saying that Ryan and the Falcons would have performed exactly the same at the Ralph and that unpredictable weather conditions and crowd noise have no effect on a visiting team whatsoever? Who cares that he went to BC, playing in college is nothing compared to playing in the pros. Look at all the far better QBs than Ryan who have had significant issues with playing at the Ralph over the years and you would probably think otherwise.

You really think that Ryan would have been able to call his signals or audible with 70000 fans screaming at the Ralph as opposed to maybe 20000 Bills fans screaming in that loser cavern in Toronto. Do you think that all those handoffs to the RBS or all those tight spirals that Ryan threw would have been as effortlessly accomplished with wet cold hands or a wet ball in the wind at the Ralph? You have to be joking!