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The fact that they announced it just days before the game raised some red flags. My tin foil hat said that it was thoughtlessly thrown together after a monday AM sales call where the rivals gear wasn't moving so they tried to make it more of a "thing". Really strange, I went to the BFLO store on Saturday, then the Bills store on Sunday and neither really had any of the rivals gear or away jerseys. I don't understand how both stores weren't just bursting at the seems with white clothing, hats, etc. It just looked set up with all the normal stuff I see on any given week. But then again I saw loads of rivals jerseys at the game and in the lots so what to do I know.

It was nearly impossible from the stands. Absolutely brutal. I am cool with the "rivals" concept and adding a special jersey or two, but I coudn't tell who was who presnap, or post snap. Guys had to be perfectly perpindicular to me.

At scale the defense is the problem. Last night, 3 turnovers cost us the game. Drafting and then having to redraft the same positions in the top 100 because they keep missing are slowly sinking this team.

I think Purdy is a good QB and a great fit for his situation. I just think Baker is very very good, and easily a top 10 QB in the league with a very friendly contract for his production. More props to Mayfield than shade at Purdy. Mac Jones is getting the benefit of being a new QB in a new system with a good coach. I think he/SF will run into issues the more he plays. Purdy is a better QB than Jones.

This AM I was just thinking what a get Baker Mayfield would have been for Shanahan. He is CHEAP and was available at one point. Certainly an upgrade from Mac Jones and Brock Purdy.

Yeah, I guess I am just used to it as a "celebration" once a win is signed, sealed, and delivered. The timing of the Saints game felt like an "OK, time to clock in" moment.

The only glaring game I have seen with Tre has been the Saints game. But even that wasn't a tackle after the catch issue. That was helping in run support. Not a get out of jail free card for him, but nearly all defenders vs the Saints blew it in run support so a difficult game to identify who blew it the most play to play. I don't want to rely on Tre/Strong as our DB pairing anytime soon. But I do like him in his current role so far.

I thought it was a little early since the game wasn't quite in hand yet. But kudos to the sound guys for getting the stadium back in it. We were a frustrated murmur at that point. Strange to say it, but it's timing is normally a celebration, but I'd go as far to say as if actually helped seal the game.

This is way over played. Tre is having a very good year by CB2 standards. Outside of getting beat by Waddle in man coverage once or twice, Tre has been a consistantly good outside corner. No data behind this, but the eye test seems to have me thinking we are also willing to man up more often this year.

It's like beating a dead horse. But the Bills inability to get off the field on 3rd down is destroying them. The Bills are 25th in the league in 3rd down conversions. When you factor in that they also lead the league in ToP you see how phenomenally bad that is. If they could just get off the field with any consistency we'd be looking at 4 blow out wins The offense is really protecting the defense with these long drives. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-third-down-conversion-pct

We were a couple of third down stops from 6-45 last week. A huge part of the problem with the offense is we can't get off the field on defense. It's gotten to the point this year that when we break a big offensive play early I think "oh shirt, we scored too quick, defense has to go right back out there" It's kind of crazy to see an offense have to protect our defense the way we do. I watched a lot of Tre last week. Despite a few missed tackles I thought he was very good in coverage.

Mitch-Wish. I already like the nickname. Can't wait.

The Packers went Bart Starr -> Brett Favre -> Aaron Rodgers -> Jordan Love and they still wear cheese on their heads. Keep the Zubaz. Maybe even make them Zubaz-ier.

I agree at scale, this group deserves its own traditions. It is partly why I am not hyped about the red helmets/Giants jersey's. (In addition to the current just being flat out bettter) But strong disagree on the zubaz. They can have their own without throwing out the old. Zubaz was a dead brand for a while, declaring bankuptcy in 1996. The only place you could get them through the early aughts was at Goodwill. The resurgence of the design across the NFL is in no small part due to this fan base the last 10 years. Medium strong disagree on the Shout Song. It has become as much a part of the Bills as Sweet Caroline is at Red Sox Games. People even get excited about the Isley Brothers version at weddings.

I edited my comment up thread, but I wonder if this is in reaction to some of the sales numbers around the rivalry gear? If white out was the plan why not announce it earlier? This just feels like a push for more sales last minute which makes my brain think that maybe they are low. But I will say it again. A real missed opportunity for a zubaz jersey. Still could have been white with Zubaz numbers. This city would have eaten them up.

Challenge accepted. And technically I will be wearing my "White" jersey.

At scale I like the premise, but I don't like the jerseys, like at all. Firm believer that they missed a real opportunity to incorporate Zubaz into the rivalry gear. They could have kept it white, but gone Zubaz numbers. I am shocked they waited until Tuesday before the game to say anything. (Maybe even a little annoyed?) Also I am wearing my home Tre White jersey and my Zubaz shorts to the game. I know, I know, white out....But it is my jersey for this season, we are 4-0, and I am not changing. To my point this team is way more entrenched in red and blue/zubaz than it is a "white out". This seems like a strange ask. If they had a "Zubaz Game" and loaded the Bills store with Zubaz only gear, they likely crank up sales waaaaay more than the white out. I am curious if they waited until today to announce the "white out" based on sales being slow? Like if the white out was always the plan, why not announce it way earlier? Or if jersey sales are on track, why bother, the crows is likely going to be white anyways.

Agreed. But also it is bonkers that Hurts didn't complete a single pass in the second half.

A snarky question from a reporter isn't a reason to be physically imposing to a female to the extent that I don't find her question, or the tone in which it was asked even worth mentioning. This is a Ben Johnson problem. Full stop. There's no excuse for it.

I don't think the issue here is the words on paper. It is the aggressiveness and physicality to his response that was the problem. He leans in to literally talk down to her. Lets change the context, if you talked to a dude like that out in public you would likely get in a bit of an altercation. He wouldn't dare do that to somebody built like Vrabel. My partner and I have some work overlap, and if I caught a guy do that to her at a work event, we would likely have words. He could have condescendinly smirked and stayed standing up straight and we would all just shrugged this off.

That was gross. He was not only condescending, but he leans over her to make his point to the point she backs away. Fork this guy.

First of all I totally agree. But ultimately I think it comes down to this. If we lose Coleman and Shakir, Samuels can step in and provide some value and the offense can still move the ball, somewhat. If we lose Tre and Benford, Codrington stepping in would be disasterous. You don't hold roster spots for disasters because they are a "fine" returner. Bonus point: I spent a lot of time watching Tre in coverage yesterday, I thought he was excellent overall. (Although one big missed tackle in the run game comes to mind)

That is week 16. There is a world where both teams have everything wrapped up by then.

I know I know we scored 30. But sitting up high around mid field, I thought some of the decision make was not great yesterday. Some of that was play call/play design, some was Allen trying to force some things. A number of very low percentage throws when there were other options to leave us with 3rd and manageable or even convert 3rd downs. Allen is still MVP of this team and without him we lose the game.

I don't think we are having bend but don't break issues. This defense is just flat out getting gashed at every level. The front 7 has just been bad despite the individual brightspots. This, we are getting to a point where McD may have to, and probably should, take over the defense again. You don't get unlimited bites at the apple, and we have one this year, again. We can't waste it. I suspect it will either be just before the KC game as not to blow the opportunity, or just after the KC game if we lose.