Dorkington

There's a big difference in fans, the couple older guys I know that have been lifetimers are pretty good dudes, the other couple people I know that have no connection to the area and just follow success are annoying as ****.

Damn

Someone will over pay for him. He's dynamic, and there will be teams with cap room.

Manziel lucked out of two turnovers in two drives yesterday, but he's the crown of ESPN today. !@#$ing nuts.

This is what aggravates me. I understand taking a shot every once in a while, but not in 3rd and short situations, especially when playing a decent defense.

I'm actually curious to see a list of QBs available to us since 2013, it'd be interesting to go through and see if we can find better than what KO/EJ has done. Not saying that KO/EJ is the answer, just seems like there hasn't been a whole lot better.

Just now seeing the highlights from last night's Denver game... seems like after the first two drives, Denver and Manning didn't do much of anything impressive... just gotta stop the run, keep pressuring the QB, and not turn the ball over.

Maybe we'll get lucky and Peyton will be dinged up after a couple sacks!

What?! What sort of throw is he looking at, when the defender hits the ball, the ball is pointed 9 oclock (relative to Manziel), and below his chest. That's the strangest throwing motion ever. Or, you know, he decided against throwing the ball, and was in the motion of bring it back to his body. !@#$ the refs. !@#$ the NFL.

I'm not sure we should be playing Spikes, he's a liability and the middle of the field will be wide open for passes all day.

The NFL.com highlight is in favor of the call on the field "see, you can see the ball going forward!" Sigh. I wonder if we're just biased as Bills fans... wonder what the Browns forum thinks...

Hopefully Dareus and Kyle can get some push up the middle. Usually MD is double teamed these days, leaving Kyle to beat one man. Hopefully Kyle gets his trademark explosiveness back, he's been a little slower this year (not surprising, with lower body injuries, and time catching up).

Any word on if we travel to Denver early, to get used to the air?

He's about average, imo. Good sometimes, bad sometimes. Good in some stats, bad in some stats.

This offense is going to doom us to a 7-9 or 8-8 record, when we really should be looking at 11-5 or better.

I've never been one of those people who think the NFL is rigged, because I always thought there was too many variables. But the fact that they overruled that play made me really question things. It was so clear that the ball was being pulled back in when the fumble occurred, hell if it was called incomplete and challenged, it was clear enough for THAT to be overturned. The fact that they "reviewed" the play and overturned the play on the field, is complete bull ****, and makes me really wonder what is going on behind the scenes. Do they have a vested interest in protecting Manziel, and presenting him as a hero? Were they trying to set up a comeback for ratings and news stories?

Not to mention, a pass going right through the hands of (Searcy?) a Bills player.

That's my thought process.

I hope we fly to Denver earlier in the week, to get acclimated.

Color me ignorant, but why is this guy super popular, but other young QBs are basically never talked about?

Definitely heading in the right direction

It was awesome to see, but I also feel both plays presented him with easy yards, so I'm not putting him in the HoF yet. Wait... I just complimented Hackett.... uh... ****.... uh......

It's so sad that a possible 8-8 is exciting.

Jesus, Rodgers is good.

That's basically how I feel... throw Manning in there, and it's just a big *sigh* Hopefully we get lucky, I guess. Our D *is* playing damned well, and sometimes good KO shows up (about half the time)