Green Lightning

Probably a better way to go - pick the worst line that started together. Winans, Kampa and Yeates would certainly qualify as bad. Usually even babmd lines had a decent player or two. There is a much deeper line up of bad Bills lines on offense.

Compile your own All-Star worst Bills Starting DL: The McPEW line Mike McBath Walt Patulski Earl Edwards Waddy Harvey Or the PAC-TAK Line Jerry Patton Al Cowlings Bob Tatarek Mike Kadish

I seem to seldom agree with Turbo but he's right on all accounts here. A one year turnaround on the DL....and the little guy us our NT!

Coleman is slower and that's why Moats stuck. Moats can rush the passer and fill in at ILB. Not a headscratcher.

I like it. WMD. Now if only our offense could Shock and Awe!

Yeesh...after cycling through a dozen linemen mid season the last few years you think tbey'd have a better plan than that.

Rush the passer. And he'll do damn well.

Bingo. +1. I would say that as bad as the OL is, it's better than one that had Wrotto and Cordero Howard featured. And while I liked Hangman, he spent most if his time getting pushed backward.

Another year, another bad OL. Those guys are the key and the ceiling ain't high for this group. We'll have to hang on for next year' s draft.

Well put. +1

You're right. The Pat way is to shoot you in the back.

Amen!

Fair question. They let Maybin compete at OLB and didn't move him to safety. Moats outplayed Maybin last year. Maybin sucked and they cut him. That's how it works. Moats should have been given the same opportunity. We'll never know about Moats because he never had the opporrunity.

Hardly, just not a jerk.

I agree. Let him play and prove it. Don't say he's too short and bury him in a place where he will fail. No excuse here. Let him compete or don't have him in camp. All else is crap.

We've played in KC just about yearly and always in KC. Not saying it's a conspiracy, but it is p*ss poor scheduling and unfair to us. The OP doesn't deserve your rude response. He raised a issue and you seen to know it all - fine but show some class and maturity.

We'll we won't know because he wasn't allowed to play his natural NFL position because of some arbitrary height requirement. BS. If he "ain't good enough " let him do or die on the field and not in a position where he is set up to fail. P*ss poor job of coaching on this matter.

Moats is getting screwed...period. let him compete at OLB before announcing that he can't. That kid will be a solid NFL backer and apparently won't be for us. He must have done something to p*ss off Chan but it us a huge diservice to the fans and to Moats to be denied an opportunity to compete.

Why do always play KC in KC and New England after their bye week?

Fact remains is our OL is woeful and because of that, our offense will not be able to use all the plays and weapons good teams use - TE for instance. Our offense will be built and run to cover our weaknesses and not to exploit other teams weaknesses. We've been operating this way for more than a decade and this is yet another year if it. Nix decided to fix this team in a consecutive manner and not in concurrent way. So minimum of two more years of mediocre - midling results. So just know that and hope to see steady progress.

And the Indian nation will return!

Now that's funny.

Did Moats p*ss off Chan somehow? We need QB pressure and instead of giving the opposition a steady diet of Merriman - then Moats, we bury the guy three deep at ILB. It's stupid at best.

At the end of the day, the Senator and Mrags have it right. Fitz is our guy fot the next 2 seasons. Pay the guy and don't risk losing him to FA where he'll go fast and for a lot more coin.

What possessed you to listen to Bob Matthews? I think half of TSW knows more about football than he does. Then again maybe you were driven to it by the thought of the alternative of Dope and the Lapdog.